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Old 04-26-2013   #1
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How do you grade the first selection in the first round?
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Only one other tackle left on the board that I think could start this season in Quessenberry .... Glad they got this pick out of the way.
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Default Re: Draft Grade - Round 3/1 Brennan Williams

I give it an A because it is a fit as far as need, scheme, and position. He played RT in a zone blocking scheme, and was probably the most ready guy to compete now at RT that was available.
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Default Re: Draft Grade - Round 3/1 Brennan Williams

Good tackle, but came of shoulder injury. 50/50 on Williams.
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Default Re: Draft Grade - Round 3/1 Brennan Williams

I think this guy is a Day 1 starter. He knows the basics of our scheme. And he's going to get a lot of work in the offseason in the OTAs, Mini-camps, and Training Camp with Newton injured.

I expect him to beat out Harris and start.
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I thought he would have lasted till the fourth and would have preferred the other Williams, who I thought was the last DT with the skill set I wanted, but I think he is a talented player with Round 1 upside.
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Default Re: Draft Grade - Round 3/1 Brennan Williams

Grade B
Still a bit raw but looks to have the athleticism to improve.
A bit concern about both his knees.
A late third round Olineman in the ZBS, IMO, should become a fairly solid starter.
Williams may or may not achieve that result.
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Default Re: Draft Grade - Round 3/1 Brennan Williams

If he plays guard I'd give it an A.

As a tackle, I give him a B simply because he's going to have more work to do in order to become a starter IMO.

He looks very athletic, but his pass blocking leaves a lot to be desired and I don't want him out there getting Matt killed. Gonna need to get a lot more comfortable out there and he's going to need a whole lot of technique work.
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If he plays guard I'd give it an A.

As a tackle, I give him a B simply because he's going to have more work to do in order to become a starter IMO.

He looks very athletic, but his pass blocking leaves a lot to be desired and I don't want him out there getting Matt killed. Gonna need to get a lot more comfortable out there and he's going to need a whole lot of technique work.
I know we've already agreed on Williams.
I don't mind him moving inside either, but right now the Texans probably want to find out which guy may work out at RT.
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Default Re: Draft Grade - Round 3/1 Brennan Williams

I mocked him long time ago and he will become a monster. Love his long arms and eventually he could move to LT if needed. IMO, he and Q will replace 2 of three Mondek, Gardner and Harris. Williams will put a hurting on some of his opponents. Agree with 65 that he needs technique improvement but most rookies do. Hopefully Newton and Harris will maintain allowing him time.
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Default Re: Draft Grade - Round 3/1 Brennan Williams

I give the pick anywhere from an "A" to an "F"....


Being coy aside, I find it ludicrous to place a draft grade on any pick until the player being discussed actually plays a down in the NFL...... or not.

People hated "the reach" that Duane Brown was but OTOH some were excited about the Benny Joppru pick... Go figure.
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Being coy aside, I find it ludicrous to place a draft grade on any pick until the player being discussed actually plays a down in the NFL...... or not.
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I give the pick anywhere from an "A" to an "F"....


Being coy aside, I find it ludicrous to place a draft grade on any pick until the player being discussed actually plays a down in the NFL...... or not.

People hated "the reach" that Duane Brown was but OTOH some were excited about the Benny Joppru pick... Go figure.
Your right its ludicrous for those who don't know ****. Brennan has an injury history that followed him to Houston & your also right who knows how that all works out, which is probably why they moved up to grab another OT. Gee go figure.
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I give the pick anywhere from an "A" to an "F"....


Being coy aside, I find it ludicrous to place a draft grade on any pick until the player being discussed actually plays a down in the NFL...... or not.

People hated "the reach" that Duane Brown was but OTOH some were excited about the Benny Joppru pick... Go figure.
You want to know what I find ludicrous? People going into a thread titled "Draft Grade" and bitching about people grading drafts. Nobody is making you vote, TB. Nobody is making you click on the thread, TB. Nobody is making you read the thread, TB. If you don't want to participate in the thread, don't participate. It's pretty ****ing simple.
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Being coy aside, I find it ludicrous to place a draft grade on any pick until the player being discussed actually plays a down in the NFL...... or not.
How hard is it to not click on a link?

There are tons of threads on here and you come into the one that you find ludicrous when it is clearly labeled as a draft grade thread?

And how is this different from giving your opinion on anything else that you don't know the outcome of? It's just a prediction.
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A) How hard is it to not click on a link?

B) There are tons of threads on here and you come into the one that you find ludicrous when it is clearly labeled as a draft grade thread?

And how is this different from giving your opinion on anything else that you don't know the outcome of? C) It's just a prediction.
A) Well, that would be the dumbest thing ever considering dude has never played a down.

B) Yes.... There are tons of threads on here and yes I come into the one (or many) where I think it's ludicrous to give a draft grade on some unknown commodity.
--------------------> I.E. Duane Brown. How stupid was it for anyone to give him less than an A+ although many said he was a "reach, at best".

C) I get you on the "It's just a prediction" thing, but some things are more predictable than others. Case in point, property and small business taxes going up v. the success of Ryan Leaf, Vince Young or Jamunchies Ruffles succeeding.

So... I feel ya.
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B) Yes.... There are tons of threads on here and yes I come into the one (or many) where I think it's ludicrous to give a draft grade on some unknown commodity.
--------------------> I.E. Duane Brown. How stupid was it for anyone to give him less than an A+ although many said he was a "reach, at best".
I bet Kubiak, Smith, & Dennison had a grade on Duane Brown before he did jack in the NFL.

I bet they had a grade on Brennan Williams as well. Just Like Brown's I bet that grade changes as time goes on.
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A) Well, that would be the dumbest thing ever considering dude has never played a down.

B) Yes.... There are tons of threads on here and yes I come into the one (or many) where I think it's ludicrous to give a draft grade on some unknown commodity.
--------------------> I.E. Duane Brown. How stupid was it for anyone to give him less than an A+ although many said he was a "reach, at best".

C) I get you on the "It's just a prediction" thing, but some things are more predictable than others. Case in point, property and small business taxes going up v. the success of Ryan Leaf, Vince Young or Jamunchies Ruffles succeeding.

So... I feel ya.
Look, it's a prediction based on how a person feels about a prospect.






But thanks for pointing out that sometimes the predictions are wrong.

I'm sure we'll all keep that enlightening information in mind as we move forward in our evaluations and daily life as this revelation is absolutely shocking and new to me.





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Yeah. I had an issue with grading a draft for awhile.

But then I realized what the real purpose of it is. It's a way for someone to say, "I think this group of players is going to perform at such and such a level based on my expectations. I think that this team improved itself based on my perception of the team's needs and the players' abilities." It's a way for someone to say, "I think these teams improved and these teams got worse."

I don't see anything wrong with that. It's a totally subjective grade (as most grades on players and drafts are even after all the players have played out their careers.) After 3 or 4 years, you can still grade it but it's still going to be subjective and different people are still going to come out with wildly different grades.
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If you have to identify one decision that contributed the most to getting Kubiak fired, it's this one. As bad as the RT position already was, he shouldn't have rolled the dice on this player. That's not just hindsight -- we all knew it at the time.

Then consider that the next pick was Sam Montgomery.

In all fairness, we have no idea Kubes' stance on Williams, or even Montgomery. We also have no idea what kind of bad info the team doctor's gave him.


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