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Old 04-19-2013   #1
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Dolphins are in negotiation with KC offering a second (#42?) for LT Brandon Albert who was franchised @ about $9m but wants long term deal. I thik Dolphins would trade second round # 54 and third round #82 for our #27. Miami could use a CB, DE and an OG. Warmack could be theirs #12 to side with Albert to protect Tannehill and a good selection #27 for either a CB or Werner could slide. If not Moore could be enticing.

2nd: #54 WR Da'Rick Rogers #57 CB/S David Amerson 17 INTs last two years

3rd: #82 Nt Brandon Williams #89 WR slot Stedman Bailey #95 ILB/OLB Cornelius Washington

4th: OT Brennan Williams
5th: ILB Steve Beauharnais
6: #195 RB Cierre Wood #201 OLB Quanterus Smith
7th: TE Jake Stoneburner

I would not be surprised to see using other lower rounds to trade up into second where good quality exists.
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There is no way the Dolphins trade up. They need to upgrade at tons of positions.
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Boy, was I wrong!!
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Boy, was I wrong!!
No problem I am graciously accepting all apologies. Now let's see what Dolphins do with that 2nd second round (#54) that I want. Still could trade it for Albert though.
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Dolphins are in negotiation with KC offering a second (#42?) for LT Brandon Albert who was franchised @ about $9m but wants long term deal. I thik Dolphins would trade second round # 54 and third round #82 for our #27. Miami could use a CB, DE and an OG. Warmack could be theirs #12 to side with Albert to protect Tannehill and a good selection #27 for either a CB or Werner could slide. If not Moore could be enticing.

2nd: #54 WR Da'Rick Rogers #57 CB/S David Amerson 17 INTs last two years

3rd: #82 Nt Brandon Williams #89 WR slot Stedman Bailey #95 ILB/OLB Cornelius Washington

4th: OT Brennan Williams
5th: ILB Steve Beauharnais
6: #195 RB Cierre Wood #201 OLB Quanterus Smith
7th: TE Jake Stoneburner

I would not be surprised to see using other lower rounds to trade up into second where good quality exists.
Do you realize how many lower round picks it would take to get a second round pick?
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Do you realize how many lower round picks it would take to get a second round pick?
Are you still using the old draft evaluation chart?
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Are you still using the old draft evaluation chart?
Wouldn't the new CBA make top picks even more valuable meaning that it would take more picks than implied by the old chart since they can't get massive contracts anymore?
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Are you still using the old draft evaluation chart?
Show me a recent trade where late round picks netted a second round pick.
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BB, like TexansSeminole said the Dolphins have lots of holes to fill and upgrades to make they need lots of help and most likely won't be looking to trade up.

What if instead we trade with the 49rs'. They currently have 1-1st, 2-2nd, and 2-3rd round picks. They're an elite level team looking to get back to the Super Bowl and realize that they can't stay on top forever so they're making a push to win it now. They also need a new backup QB. We give them #27 in exchange for picks #34 (a high 2nd) and #93 (a low 3rd). Now they also have pick #74 and I'd be asking for #34 and #74 but I'd settle for #34 and #93 which I think is more realistic. That would give the 49rs' 2-1st, 1-2nd, and 1-3rd so that they still have selections in each round and thus aren't feeling like they're left out of a round. It would also give the Texans 2-2nd (#34 and #57), and 3-3rd (#89, #93, and #95). We could then get our WR and OLB in the 2nd and a DT and lots of value in the 3rd.
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BB, like TexansSeminole said the Dolphins have lots of holes to fill and upgrades to make they need lots of help and most likely won't be looking to trade up.

What if instead we trade with the 49rs'. They currently have 1-1st, 2-2nd, and 2-3rd round picks. They're an elite level team looking to get back to the Super Bowl and realize that they can't stay on top forever so they're making a push to win it now. They also need a new backup QB. We give them #27 in exchange for picks #34 (a high 2nd) and #93 (a low 3rd). Now they also have pick #74 and I'd be asking for #34 and #74 but I'd settle for #34 and #93 which I think is more realistic. That would give the 49rs' 2-1st, 1-2nd, and 1-3rd so that they still have selections in each round and thus aren't feeling like they're left out of a round. It would also give the Texans 2-2nd (#34 and #57), and 3-3rd (#89, #93, and #95). We could then get our WR and OLB in the 2nd and a DT and lots of value in the 3rd.
I really like your idea here .... WR , DT , OT , OLB and ILB all in rounds 2 & 3 .... I'd be as happy as a punk in a peter patch.

If things fell just right , I might take an OT with that #34 pick and a WR at #57.
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BB, like TexansSeminole said the Dolphins have lots of holes to fill and upgrades to make they need lots of help and most likely won't be looking to trade up.

What if instead we trade with the 49rs'. They currently have 1-1st, 2-2nd, and 2-3rd round picks. They're an elite level team looking to get back to the Super Bowl and realize that they can't stay on top forever so they're making a push to win it now. They also need a new backup QB. We give them #27 in exchange for picks #34 (a high 2nd) and #93 (a low 3rd). Now they also have pick #74 and I'd be asking for #34 and #74 but I'd settle for #34 and #93 which I think is more realistic. That would give the 49rs' 2-1st, 1-2nd, and 1-3rd so that they still have selections in each round and thus aren't feeling like they're left out of a round. It would also give the Texans 2-2nd (#34 and #57), and 3-3rd (#89, #93, and #95). We could then get our WR and OLB in the 2nd and a DT and lots of value in the 3rd.
Same principal as my trade so yes. Dolphins have been in negotiations with Chiefs for Brandon Albert OT. The offer on table is a Dolphins' second round. Two firsts, their remaining third (after trading with us) would allow them to bring in quality to fill their holes especially if ALbert signs. Three starters + a very good third round player is about all a team expects in a draft.
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Do you realize how many lower round picks it would take to get a second round pick?
April 25th Vikings traded 2,3, 4 and a 7th for PATS 29th pick. I think it is safe to say a 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th could then get a low second round.
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Dolphins are in negotiation with KC offering a second (#42?) for LT Brandon Albert who was franchised @ about $9m but wants long term deal. I thik Dolphins would trade second round # 54 and third round #82 for our #27. Miami could use a CB, DE and an OG. Warmack could be theirs #12 to side with Albert to protect Tannehill and a good selection #27 for either a CB or Werner could slide. If not Moore could be enticing.

2nd: #54 WR Da'Rick Rogers #57 CB/S David Amerson 17 INTs last two years

3rd: #82 Nt Brandon Williams #89 WR slot Stedman Bailey #95 ILB/OLB Cornelius Washington

4th: OT Brennan Williams
5th: ILB Steve Beauharnais
6: #195 RB Cierre Wood #201 OLB Quanterus Smith
7th: TE Jake Stoneburner

I would not be surprised to see using other lower rounds to trade up into second where good quality exists.
I Like the guy's you have chosen - Rogers is my #1 WR , Amerson is intriguing , especially at one of the S spots , Washington I took in the TT mock with #95 obvious value there.

Brandon Williams and Brennan Williams would be solid selections in the mid rounds ...

15-60 seems to be really flat talent wise. I really think it would be ideal to trade back , just have to find a team willing to move up and pay a premium price for doing so.

The Texans really have to nail this draft with all the losses they had in FA and the holes that were exposed thruout the season or run the risk of taking a step back. Indy will be charging hard .... damn them for having a decade of Manning and then falling into Luck.
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I am making a change only because Stedman Bailey has move out of our range in third. I replace him with Aaron Dobson.

2nd: #54 WR Da'Rick Rogers #57 CB/S David Amerson 17 INTs last two years

3rd: #82 NT Brandon Williams #89 WR Aaron Dobson #95 ILB/OLB Cornelius Washington

4th: OT Brennan Williams
5th: ILB Steve Beauharnais
6: #195 RB Cierre Wood #201 OLB Quanterus Smith
7th: TE Jake Stoneburner
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I keep forgetting about da'rick...

I'd consider trading up to the top of the second and grabbing him or just take him at 27. Dude is a beast.
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I keep forgetting about da'rick...

I'd consider trading up to the top of the second and grabbing him or just take him at 27. Dude is a beast.
Think Rogers will be there where I am picking and Smith* is indicating he is open to trading down "been on phone all day" per Chronicle as usual. Patterson really sliding supposedly with one of ESPN guys mocking him to Texans. I have him ahead of Rogers by a bit but would love either or both. lol.

*“Gary (Kubiak) tries to stay neutral because he’s got the role of the head coach, (but) if I were to sit here and say that coaches don’t try to influence me, I wouldn’t be truthful,” he said. “That’s just a part of the process.”
“I think there’s only one draft (in which) I didn’t execute a trade,” Smith said. “We’re always open to trades, moving up and moving back. We’re open to doing that again this year.”

“I think the 27th spot is attractive from the standpoint that, historically, you look back and there are teams that come back into the latter part of (the first round) if a player’s there they’ve targeted earlier. I think we’ll have some flexibility, but I’m confident if we don’t, we’ll get a good player.
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What's crazy is that Tennessee had all three of those guys...And they also had a decent QB throwing to them...
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