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Old 04-17-2013   #1
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Default Step it up, Texans

Players you expect to step it up over last season or take it up another level. Possible cuts *

Braman LB

Brooks OG

*Clutts FB

B. Harris DB

*Lestar Jean WR

Keyshawn Martin WR

Whitney Mercilus OLB

Mitchell DT

Newton RT

Pleasant DB

Sharpton LB (playing for a contract with someone)

Antonio Smith (playing for a final contract with someone)

Ben Tate
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I don't think LeStar is getting cut. He didn't have a great season, but when given the chance last season he usually made some pretty big plays....
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Yea, but Lestar also dropped a ton of balls, including quite a few in third and longs.
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JMO, but they need to use Jean across the middle, on comeback routes, etc. He doesn't have the deep speed to run the fly routes they tried with him last year, but he's got good height and has a knack for making plays on the ball. He attacks the ball pretty well.
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JMO, but they need to use Jean across the middle, on comeback routes, etc. He doesn't have the deep speed to run the fly routes they tried with him last year, but he's got good height and has a knack for making plays on the ball. He attacks the ball pretty well.
this is what I want to see also as Jean could be an AJ type player. He is strong enough to battle DBs and take ball away or force it to ground. He is a big target and his hands should be good enough. Maybe with Walter gone, he will get more opportunities and that is why I have him as a step it up player. If he cannot get it done and soon, time to move on and allow others a chance like Jeff Maehl.
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Yea, but Lestar also dropped a ton of balls, including quite a few in third and longs.
Define a ton, please. Are we talking about 2000 lbs worth of balls? 10 drops? 2 drops? A high percentage of his overall catch total? Or just some nebulous feeling that you have?
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Define a ton, please. Are we talking about 2000 lbs worth of balls? 10 drops? 2 drops? A high percentage of his overall catch total? Or just some nebulous feeling that you have?
I didn't think he dropped that many.
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I didn't think he dropped that many.
I was more worried about K-Mart's drops but I haven't looked at actual targets, catches, drops for them.

I didn't think Jean got enough targets to be able to drop a ton. Half a ton? Quarter of a ton? Maybe, but not a whole ton.
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Define a ton, please. Are we talking about 2000 lbs worth of balls? 10 drops? 2 drops? A high percentage of his overall catch total? Or just some nebulous feeling that you have?
I am not jumping into this debate. I do not have a drop number. Thru the season he was targeted 13 times and caught 6 passes.
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Yea, but Lestar also dropped a ton of balls, including quite a few in third and longs.
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Yea, but Lestar also dropped a ton of balls, including quite a few in third and longs.
A ton a balls? Heck, what was he targeted? Maybe a dozen or so times. Matt/Gary needs to target this guy at least 5 times a game. He's tall , can jump and is not too shabby in the open field. Spread the ball out! Jean,Martin and Tate should've had more touches last year in my opion.
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Merciless is the only guy off that list i expect to step up over what he did last year. I might've put Reed on here but i didn't see enough from him last year to warrant what the thread is about. He seems like a 1 trick pony (speed rusher)..and he's ok at best at that 1 trick. It's sad b/c i had such high hopes for him. He's still got time but...my optimisim is dwindling rapidly.

Everyone else on the list is who they are at this point in their careers imo.
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Players you expect to step it up over last season or take it up another level. Possible cuts *

Braman LB

Brooks OG

*Clutts FB

B. Harris DB

*Lestar Jean WR

Keyshawn Martin WR

Whitney Mercilus OLB

Mitchell DT

Newton RT

Pleasant DB

Sharpton LB (playing for a contract with someone)

Antonio Smith (playing for a final contract with someone)

Ben Tate
Heh you kind of named almost everyone. I agree with all except maybe Sharpton. I just don't see much there. He seems alright but at this point one has to wonder can he even make it through a season.

Really hoping Harris steps up and we have a battle on the nickle spot. Would be nice to see one of the young players step up and develop to be the 3rd guy there especially how we have issues against the spread as is. Can never go wrong with some quality depth in the secondary.

Out of these Mercilus may be the biggest key though defensively since one would like to think he has the highest ceiling of those mentioned.
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Heh you kind of named almost everyone. I agree with all except maybe Sharpton. I just don't see much there. He seems alright but at this point one has to wonder can he even make it through a season.

Really hoping Harris steps up and we have a battle on the nickle spot. Would be nice to see one of the young players step up and develop to be the 3rd guy there especially how we have issues against the spread as is. Can never go wrong with some quality depth in the secondary.

Out of these Mercilus may be the biggest key though defensively since one would like to think he has the highest ceiling of those mentioned.
We are on same page on Sharpton but I do expect him to play 100% for a new contract.
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We are on same page on Sharpton but I do expect him to play 100% for a new contract.
Until he breaks.
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Until he breaks.
Yep, my concern also. We will see what Texans think based on how they draft for that position and whom.
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Until he breaks.
I just don't think he is that good. IF he can stay healthy he can be the Jay Foreman player you are always looking to upgrade.
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I just don't think he is that good. IF he can stay healthy he can be the Jay Foreman player you are always looking to upgrade.
I can't imagine any scenario where Sharpton is our future at ILB. He might be our ILB for the first game or two of the season but my expectation is that we're going to draft Cushing's running mate -- Minter, Te'o, Klein, or Bostic.

I don't have too much of a problem with Sharpton as a backup. I think he can be good depth even though I'd prefer Dobbins and/or Ruud.
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