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Old 03-28-2013   #1
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Default Texans cap space, as of March 26

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Bengals: $28.9 million.

Browns: $28.7 million.

Buccaneers: $28.8 million.

Jaguars: $26.6 million.

Eagles: $26.3 million.

Packers: $18.3 million.

Bills: $16.8 million.

Dolphins: $15.7 million.

Cardinals: $14.0 million.

Patriots: $13.4 million.

Jets: $13.0 million.

Colts: $11.7 million.

Titans: $10.7 million.

Broncos: $8.8 million.

Lions: $7.2 million.

Ravens: $7.2 million.

Chargers: $7.0 million.

Seahawks: $6.8 million.

Falcons: $6.2 million.

Bears: $5.3 million.

Vikings: $5.1 million.

Texans: $4.9 million.

Giants: $4.5 million.

49ers: $4.5 million.

Saints: $3.3 million.

Redskins: $3.2 million.

Chiefs: $3.1 million.

Raiders: $2.8 million.

Steelers: $2.5 million.

Rams: $1.0 million.

Panthers: $936,000.

Cowboys: $51,000.
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that did not include the FB Jones correct?
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that did not include the FB Jones correct?
Probably not since Jones signed on the 27th and this number was "as of March 26th"


Basically they have their rookie pool money available.


The good news is that they havent reworked or extended any deals and still have the ability to do so if the need should arise tho I dont think they want to if they can help it.
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Probably not since Jones signed on the 27th and this number was "as of March 26th"


Basically they have their rookie pool money available.


The good news is that they havent reworked or extended any deals and still have the ability to do so if the need should arise tho I dont think they want to if they can help it.
That confirms my thoughts. I am mildly surprised they did not rework Antonio's last year of his deal. I could see them adding 2 years but maybe they would rather go with Crick or Mitchell or even a draft pick in 2014. Of course, if not going after a high $ FA why do that?

If April goes the way I hope, I see a QB, DE (Smith), OG (Smith), ILB?) and CB
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That confirms my thoughts. I am mildly surprised they did not rework Antonio's last year of his deal. I could see them adding 2 years but maybe they would rather go with Crick or Mitchell or even a draft pick in 2014. Of course, if not going after a high $ FA why do that?

If April goes the way I hope, I see a QB, DE (Smith), OG (Smith), ILB?) and CB
in '14.
I would guess it has more to do with Antonio and his agent wanting to wait for free agency next year to see what he's actually worth. He will be semi-old, but he's been productive and could get a deal like Kyle Vanden Bosch did a couple years ago. Dude was 31 and got 4 years 26m from the Lions.
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I would guess it has more to do with Antonio and his agent wanting to wait for free agency next year to see what he's actually worth. He will be semi-old, but he's been productive and could get a deal like Kyle Vanden Bosch did a couple years ago. Dude was 31 and got 4 years 26m from the Lions.
I think it has just as much to do with the team not wanting to push money into the cap of future years. That could hinder both future improvement and their ability to resign their own FA's in Watt , KJax and Cushing ....


You look at their cap situation , they have next to no dead money and the cap should increase significantly in the next two years with the new TV deals kicking in. They'll be in prime position cap wise ....
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I would guess it has more to do with Antonio and his agent wanting to wait for free agency next year to see what he's actually worth. He will be semi-old, but he's been productive and could get a deal like Kyle Vanden Bosch did a couple years ago. Dude was 31 and got 4 years 26m from the Lions.
Although if he and his agent pay attention to today's NFL they'd see that guys on the other side of 30 aren't getting long term high $$ deals. That's reserved for the guys coming off their rookie contracts. The most Antonio would probably get would be 3 years $9 million tops. Well, that's my thought based on how this offseason is going at least.
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Probably not since Jones signed on the 27th and this number was "as of March 26th"


Basically they have their rookie pool money available.


The good news is that they havent reworked or extended any deals and still have the ability to do so if the need should arise tho I dont think they want to if they can help it.
So does that mean we do not have anything other than $4.9mil set aside for draft picks/rookies?
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So does that mean we do not have anything other than $4.9mil set aside for draft picks/rookies?
Right now our cap already accounts for a 53-man roster.
I estimate that we still have about a mil to spare, unless there's something goofy that is going on.
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Right now our cap already accounts for a 53-man roster.
I estimate that we still have about a mil to spare, unless there's something goofy that is going on.
Unless Im mistaken , the cap only accounts for the top 45 salaries on the roster up to a specific point in time after which it must account for the 53 man roster.



I dont know what this 4.9 figure accounts for. It could be 53 , it could be 45.


The specifics of the cap take a damn rocket scientist to figure out


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They would also have the option of designating him a June 1 cut (or actually cutting him after June 1), in which case, $3.5 Million of the dead money would hit the 2014 cap, and the remaining $7 Million would go against 2015.

Good point .... tho I dont know how you arrived at the figure. That is an option that would spread dead money out.
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So does that mean we do not have anything other than $4.9mil set aside for draft picks/rookies?
Pretty much .... tho with the new CBA and "slotted values" , I think they will be Ok.

Its what they do with whats left over that matters.
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Holy crap, the Bengals still have 29 million dollars in cap space?
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At that time, in addition to the additional 2 roster spots, the salary cap will also apply to any players on IR and all practice squad salaries.
I believe it is the signing bonus (if any) given to the practice squad player, and not his salary.

$4.9 million isn't much left, considering the Texans still have to reserve cap room for a rookie pool of 9 draft picks. They have more maneuvering to do.
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I believe it is the signing bonus (if any) given to the practice squad player, and not his salary.

$4.9 million isn't much left, considering the Texans still have to reserve cap room for a rookie pool of 9 draft picks. They have more maneuvering to do.
Time to do some restructuring and bring in Casey Hampton as well.
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I believe it is the signing bonus (if any) given to the practice squad player, and not his salary.
Nope - it's the salary...

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For 2013 minimum practice squad salary is $6,000/week, so with a 17 week season, the minimum amount that goes towards a full practice squad roster (8 players) would be $816,000. Obviously, there could be temporary vacancies on the PS due to signings, but since the Texans have a history of a full practice squad, I'd imagine they have this full amount designated towards the 2013 salary cap.
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Nope - it's the salary...

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What is the "except to the extent otherwise provided"?
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What is the "except to the extent otherwise provided"?
The "except" has to do with another team picking up a PS player and then cutting him in less than three weeks. Not applicable in the vast majority of PS player situations.
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Holy crap, the Bengals still have 29 million dollars in cap space?
Their owner is notorious for being cheap. He never pays anyone. They have 3-4 young guys they should re-sign right now and he doesn't want to open his checkbook.
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They need to get antonio off that 9.5m. He's not worth that no matter what people try to say. He's a 5m a yea max player. Either they need to extend him for 4 yrs and thin his number out or cut him. 4 yrs 20m with 6m guarantee is what they should offer him. They could get lloyd,seymore,and alan branch for 9.5m
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They need to get antonio off that 9.5m. He's not worth that no matter what people try to say. He's a 5m a yea max player. Either they need to extend him for 4 yrs and thin his number out or cut him. 4 yrs 20m with 6m guarantee is what they should offer him. They could get lloyd,seymore,and alan branch for 9.5m
I think they'll extend him pretty soon. Its probably already in the works.
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