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Old 03-27-2013   #1
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Here are a couple DT's worth checking out.

There are also a couple of rising small school DTs in Jared Smith of New Hampshire and Samfordís Nick Williams, although they took different roads to the party. Smith is a 3-year starter at UNH who had 12.5 career sacks and 26 total career tackles for loss; he also blocked 5 kicks in his career including three last fall. Williams, on the other and, is another late bloomer who didnít play football until his senior year in high school and didnít start for D1AA Samford until his 4th year on campus. He blossomed in 2012 though when he had 6 sacks coming up the middle. Both guys also solidified their claim to be legitimate late-round sleepers with impressive performances at the combine in February. Williams, in particular, measured in at a full-sized 6-4, 310 with long arms and big hands, and then went out and an a quick 4.94 40, which was just a couple of 100s behnd Sharrif Floydís pace-setting times for DTs. Williams, though, was actually even quicker over 10 yards (1.63 seconds to 1.68) than Floyd. Williams also posted a solid 28 reps in the bench press. Smith isnĎt quite as big at 6-3, 302, and was a tad slower with a 5.08 40 clocking, but that too was among the leaders at the position at the combine. Smth, though, was very quick in the agility drills posting the second fastest time among DTs in the 3-cone drill and the fastest in the short shuttle that was actually the 6th fastest time among all defensive linemen including the DEs.

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Paul Worrilow, ILB, Delaware

I have not paid as much attention to small school prospects (hell, the draft in general) much this year, but this kid looks like a player.
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Paul Worrilow, ILB, Delaware

I have not paid as much attention to small school prospects (hell, the draft in general) much this year, but this kid looks like a player.
Guy tested really well, didn't he?
I have concern though regarding his highlights.
He was free to go quite often; it's difficult to tell how he will perform with trash around him.

That brought me back to Burdette; he pulled a hamstring on the first forty at his pro day so we can't gauge his ability based on the work-out.
Dunno how much it will affect his draft stock. Will he become an UDFA?

Man, his game tapes look fantastic.
This is a guy I wanted with an extra "6th" round compensatory pick that we thought we had.
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OT J.C. TRETTER CORNEL IVY LEAGUE

This guy has late texans pick written all over him.


OTREID FRAGEL OHIO ST. As does this guy.
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OT J.C. TRETTER CORNEL IVY LEAGUE

This guy has late texans pick written all over him.


OTREID FRAGEL OHIO ST. As does this guy.
These guys look interesting.
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OTREID FRAGEL OHIO ST. As does this guy.
1. Reid Fragel, OT, Ohio State, Senior (6075, 308 and 5.13): A former tight end, Fragel made big strides as an offensive tackle in 2012 and is climbing up draft boards because of his potential. Few offensive tackle prospects in this yearís Draft possess Fragelís height, long arms, feet and overall athleticism. Evaluators have been impressed with his ability to kick slide out to protect the corner while maintaining good base so that he can re-direct and adjust to different pass rush moves. While his draft stock is no doubt rising, the concern that has been voiced to us is that his playing strength needs to greatly improve. For a 300+ pounder he gets driven backwards by bull rushers and struggles to consistently get movement on in-line run blocks. The hope is that he can improve his strength, but teams are always concerned when a player is already 300+ pounds and played at a program, like Ohio State, that has an outstanding strength and conditioning program and still struggles with playing strength. Right now Fragel has moved up into fourth round consideration and could be a surprise late in the third round.
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1. Reid Fragel, OT, Ohio State, Senior (6075, 308 and 5.13): A former tight end, Fragel made big strides as an offensive tackle in 2012 and is climbing up draft boards because of his potential. Few offensive tackle prospects in this yearís Draft possess Fragelís height, long arms, feet and overall athleticism. Evaluators have been impressed with his ability to kick slide out to protect the corner while maintaining good base so that he can re-direct and adjust to different pass rush moves. While his draft stock is no doubt rising, the concern that has been voiced to us is that his playing strength needs to greatly improve. For a 300+ pounder he gets driven backwards by bull rushers and struggles to consistently get movement on in-line run blocks. The hope is that he can improve his strength, but teams are always concerned when a player is already 300+ pounds and played at a program, like Ohio State, that has an outstanding strength and conditioning program and still struggles with playing strength. Right now Fragel has moved up into fourth round consideration and could be a surprise late in the third round.
He just woke up? LOL.
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1. Reid Fragel, OT, Ohio State, Senior (6075, 308 and 5.13): A former tight end, Fragel made big strides as an offensive tackle in 2012 and is climbing up draft boards because of his potential. Few offensive tackle prospects in this yearís Draft possess Fragelís height, long arms, feet and overall athleticism. Evaluators have been impressed with his ability to kick slide out to protect the corner while maintaining good base so that he can re-direct and adjust to different pass rush moves. While his draft stock is no doubt rising, the concern that has been voiced to us is that his playing strength needs to greatly improve. For a 300+ pounder he gets driven backwards by bull rushers and struggles to consistently get movement on in-line run blocks. The hope is that he can improve his strength, but teams are always concerned when a player is already 300+ pounds and played at a program, like Ohio State, that has an outstanding strength and conditioning program and still struggles with playing strength. Right now Fragel has moved up into fourth round consideration and could be a surprise late in the third round.
I know the bench press isn't the be all end all for strength, but Fragel led all OT's in BP at the combine. So I would hardly call him weak.
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1. Reid Fragel, OT, Ohio State, Senior (6075, 308 and 5.13): A former tight end, Fragel made big strides as an offensive tackle in 2012 and is climbing up draft boards because of his potential. Few offensive tackle prospects in this yearís Draft possess Fragelís height, long arms, feet and overall athleticism. Evaluators have been impressed with his ability to kick slide out to protect the corner while maintaining good base so that he can re-direct and adjust to different pass rush moves. While his draft stock is no doubt rising, the concern that has been voiced to us is that his playing strength needs to greatly improve. For a 300+ pounder he gets driven backwards by bull rushers and struggles to consistently get movement on in-line run blocks. The hope is that he can improve his strength, but teams are always concerned when a player is already 300+ pounds and played at a program, like Ohio State, that has an outstanding strength and conditioning program and still struggles with playing strength. Right now Fragel has moved up into fourth round consideration and could be a surprise late in the third round.
I could see signing a vet FA for one season while we coach up a guy like this or maybe Gardner will be the backup. I want to see how he and Mondek does during TC.
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