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Old 03-21-2013   #1
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Default Urlacher - does he have anything left for us?

I don't know how bad his knees were, but the bears only offerred him 2M/year for his contract. Man that's awfully tempting to try to get him at 3M a year for a couple years. He might plug a hole at ILB for us for a year or two.

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Default Re: Urlacher - does he have anything left for us?

Last I heard he was seeking around 3.5-4 million on a one year deal. What he brings is great coverage from the LB position, experience and of course leadership. He is one of those players that can read an offense pre-snap and make audibles and adjustments at the line of scrimmage putting everyone where they need be.

Unfortunately, he was also below average against the run last year. He wasn't great getting off blocks and was a step slower getting to the backs on pursuit then normal. With the Texans utilizing a 3-4 that may not be a good thing to put him in there in such a situation. He'll be an improvement coverage wise but not versus the run especially since I think most signs point to Earl Mitchell manning the nose.
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Default Re: Urlacher - does he have anything left for us?

No, dude moved like a sloth on the field last year.
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Default Re: Urlacher - does he have anything left for us?

I'd do it. Neither him nor Ed reed would keep you from drafting ilb or safety, but what they do is lessen the need somewhat...not to mention the attitude, knowledge, swag and leadership they bring...

Would be pretty big having urlacher and reed on this defense just from an experience standpoint. All of a sudden you'd have one of the most experienced defenses in the NFL. Brian and manning are friends as well, so I'm sure he's in his ear about it.

Id do it for the right price.
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Default Re: Urlacher - does he have anything left for us?

You don't want an ILB who can't stop the run. Urlacher was second to last in the league last year. He's toast.
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Default Re: Urlacher - does he have anything left for us?

Why are people so hung up on Urlacher? The guy's career was built on speed and he doesn't have it anymore. People are reminiscing about his coverage skills which he can no longer duplicate. He's more of a liability at this point and I see him not getting the offer he's looking for and retiring this offseason.

He's a great defensive leader but that's his only asset at this point.
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You guys really don't think he'd be better than what we trotted out there last year?
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Default Re: Urlacher - does he have anything left for us?

If the Bears couldn't work out a deal with him, then he's asking way too much for what he offers. If Urlacher was willing to take vet minimum, he would be with the Bears. He can't cover TEs, so all he would be is a 2-down run stopper. Why not re-sign Bradie James for minimum if that's what we need?
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You guys really don't think he'd be better than what we trotted out there last year?
Nope.

I'd re-sign Dobbins and possibly Ruud or James. I think we'll draft an ILB within the first 3 rounds.
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Default Re: Urlacher - does he have anything left for us?

I think Ruud with a full training camp and Brian Cushing next to him would be the perfect combination until we can find and prepare a rookie for the job.
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I think Ruud with a full training camp and Brian Cushing next to him would be the perfect combination until we can find and prepare a rookie for the job.
Doesn't necessarily have to be a rookie. A young FA could fill the bill as well. I think there are a couple of good prospects out there this season.
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No Urlacher!
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Doesn't necessarily have to be a rookie. A young FA could fill the bill as well. I think there are a couple of good prospects out there this season.

Granted. Does not have to be a rookie. Just saying that if all we're looking for is "Mr. Right-Now" then we already have a better option that we're more familiar who we could be trying to bring back.
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Default Re: Urlacher - does he have anything left for us?

Do none of you remember the Texans-Bears MNF game???

He looked a step behind. All night.

This is a situation that unfortunately happens every year, a guy is done and he doesn't think he's done. He says that he is stronger and has better range right now...due to how last year he was strictly rehabbing and now he's had a chance to really get back to form (but still, who takes a gamble on that for what he's asking???).

The Texans better really draft right. We need ILB, S, and WR. First three rounds, and they better get the right guys at the right spots in the right rounds. Period. This will be the most crucial drafty we've had in awhile.
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You guys really don't think he'd be better than what we trotted out there last year?
Classic better name than football player at this point in his career. At best would be another"intangible" signing versus a guy who is any better than Brady James.
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You guys really don't think he'd be better than what we trotted out there last year?
Yeah, I think a gritty vet. like Urlacher could realize that this would likely be he last go around and go all "Deer Antler Extract" Mode for us. I think that Urlacher has enough to the tank to help the Texans Win. I'd be favor of it for a one year deal with him if we could.
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Yeah, I think a gritty vet. like Urlacher could realize that this would likely be he last go around and go all "Deer Antler Extract" Mode for us. I think that Urlacher has enough to the tank to help the Texans Win. I'd be favor of it for a one year deal with him if we could.
Ed Reed plays so far from the LOS, that losing a step doesn't hurt so bad.

But a linebacker, who has to instinctually attack the LOS..... 1st & 2nd down, it's about stopping the run, on third down & passing situations, it's about pass defense or getting after the QB.

Brian Urlacher is an asset in coverage, dropping into a zone, trailing TEs..... but attacking the LOS, possibly filling in for Cushing if he has to miss some time? I'm sorry but there are better options out there.
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I don't buy the urlacher sucks against the run stuff. They were top 10 against the run. You aren't top ten stopping the run with a MLB who sucks against the run.

Urlacher shouldn't be anyone's main guy anymore, but I think he's more than capable of playing second fiddle to Cushing. I think our run defense would be fine, and he'd help our pass defense when we are in our base defense. Teams do pass on first and second down and from base formations ya know...

Plus, you can still draft a guy or pick up a free agent. If you have a chance to add Ed reed and Brian urlacher to your defense while they can still play, you do it. Even if they've lost a step...or several steps...you do it...the collective iq of the defense would go waaaaay up, and when you are playing Brady or manning in the play offs it's not as much the physical errors that get you but rather the mental.

If the price is feasible, we need to sign urlacher. Sign or draft another younger guy as well.
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Depends on how much of a cap hit he is, and no he is not better than Brian Cushing.
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After Bradie James poor play I'll pass on signing another old, over-the-hill linebacker.
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