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Old 03-19-2013   #1
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Default Doppelmock Version 6.0: Post Compensatory Pick Announcement Draft

Well folks the results are in. Despite many around here hoping for 3-4 compensatory picks, the Texans ended up with 2(3rd round and 6th). So, in honor of that, its time for yet another Doppelmock!!! Hope you enjoy it as much as I did putting it together!!!

TRADE: Texans trade #27 to Philadelphia Eagles for Eagles 2nd and 3rd round selections.

Yes, I know you can't predict trades, but in my Texans universe, the Texans make a trade.
27. Philadelphia Eagles: E.J. Manuel. QB, Florida State, 6'4, 237lbs, 4.61.

Philly is desperate for a QB to run the Chip Kelly offense. The best one to do that may be E.J. Manuel. Manuel has a strong arm and great measurables and looks to be a late first early 2nd selection. Philly jumps back up into the first round to make sure they get their guy and that other teams don't jump in ahead of them and grab him. Giving up their third rounder as well as second may sound high, but if they get the franchise QB they desire, price is reasonable.

2.(Eagles) Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee, 6'4, 196lbs, 4.41
The Texans have needed a big time WR prospect next to AJ for years. This year, there are many good WR options. While most of them look like solid #2 candidates, only a couple of them look like potential #1s. Hunter is one of those who has the potential to be a #1 WR in the NFL. He is a big receiver, has great hands, is a route runner, and as demonstrated in the draft the speed is back. He also comes across as a good guy who would be a great fit in the Texans locker-room. He is the kind of guy who could learn from AJ how to be an elite NFL WR. In 2-3 years, he will be ready to be the #1 receiver as AJ transitions into a #2. The more I see of him, the more I think he is the pick.

2 (Texans) Trevardo Williams, OLB, Connecticut, 6'1, 241lbs, 4.57
High level pass rusher to replace Barwin. 42 tackles, 13.5 tackles for a loss, 11.5 sacks and 1 fumble in 2012. In 2011 he had 12.5 sacks, 15 tackles for a loss, 43 tackles and two forced fumbles. Initially he starts as a Can play ST and be a situational pass rusher as he gets a little bigger and works on run D. As time goes along he will join in on the pass rush with Reed and WM from the OLB spot.

3(Eagles) Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia, 6'5, 342lbs, 5.44
A behmouth who will play the traditional load bearing NT role. He would be an excellent run stopper and can help collapse the pocket. Due to his size, he may only be able to go as a part time player for now. But he should be able to start from Day 1 on first/2nd down. He probably will need to slim down to about 325-330lbs or so in order to be a 3 down NT.

3(Texans) Jonathan Bostic, ILB, Florida, 6'1, 245lbs, 4.61
Sometimes people just overthink things. There are lots of things to ding Bostic for: he didnt live up to hype coming out of school, he was not the next big thing, he is overrated, he is not Brandon Spikes, etc. At the end of the day, he is a very good #2 ILB in a 3-4 defense. In 2012 he had 68 tackles, 2 interceptions, 1 forced fumble and 3 sacks. In 2011 he had 94 tackles with 10 tackles for a loss, 3 sacks and 1 forced fumble. In 2010 he had 57 tackles with 2.5 tackles for a loss, 1.5 sacks and three interceptions. He has good lateral speed, can tackle, has hands,

3(Compensatory )Chris Jones, DL, Bowling Green, 6'2, 302lbs, 5.33
A sleeper gap DL that Wade may like. He is a very nice pass rusher who could slot in at NT or3-4 DE. He gives Wade options and can help mix up defensive looks to confuse the offense. A very nice pass rusher from the DL spot. 12.5 sacks, 42 tackles, 19 tackles for a loss, and 2 forced fumbles in 2012. In 2011 he had 47 tackles with 14 tackles for a loss, 8.5 sacks and 3 forced fumbles. As a sophomore he had 39 tackles with 11 tackles for a loss, 6 sacks and 1 fumble. For right now, he probably would do best on ST/competing with coming in for Geathers on passing situations. He needs to work on run defense and get bit stronger. In the future he could relieve Watt and/or Smith as a depth player and would be able to play any position on the DL. Having someone who can play DE or NT creates potential mismatches.

4.Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State, 6'0, 207lbs, 4.44

As we learned in Pulp Fiction, you don't argue with or bet against The Wolfe!!! All joking aside, he is a great choice in this spot. A fantastic safety prospect to develop for a year before getting throwing to the...no, I am not going there! He has good hands, speed, and tackling ability. Right now, he needs to work on deep over the middle pass coverage. In time he can develop those skills. If not, slide him over to CB as he has the size, speed, and pass defense to excel there too.

5. Michael Williams, TE, Alabama 6'5, 269lbs, 4.80
The Texans have a plethora of smaller quick pass first TEs. What they don't have is an elite blocking TE. Williams is the kind of player this scheme needs. After a less then ideal combine I think he settles into this spot. He is primarily a blocking TE with solid hands. Blocking TEs don't go high in the NFL, becuase they tend not to be td producers. Williams immediately starts in certain packages as an additional blocker and will pay dividends in the passing and running game. As his hands improve, the can design a play or two for him every other game to keep defenses honest.

6 (Texans) Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia, 6'5, 308lbs, 5.45.
Man did his stock fall. Once thought of as a borderline first/second round selection he has plummeted all the way into the 6th round. He put up a low amount of reps and was rather slow in his 40 time. This suggest weakness and a lack of athletic ability. Still, he played well this past season. He showed good footwork, his pass protection was fantastic, and his run blocking has really come along. I will take a chance on him here. in the 6th round. The guy I saw at Virginia looked to me like a good RT prospect and possible starter. I know he didn't test well, but I think his production on the field of play outweighs what he does in shorts and a tshirt.

6(Compensatory) Ryan Allen, P, Louisiana Tech, 6'2, 215lbs.
The 2 time (2011 and 2012) Ray Guy award winner is just what this team needs. If yall have seen my mocks before, you know what I think of Donnie Jones. Upgrade here offers $ discount and quality upgrade.

7.Zach Boren, FB/LB, Ohio State, 6'0 252lbs, 4.79

With the loss of Casey, the Texans need a FB and I think it would be a better idea to go back to a true old school FB rather than a hybrid. While Kubes likes the versatility of Casey, he doesn't throw him the ball all that often. Having a superior run blocker is better than having a superior athlete. Boren can open up holes for Foster, Tate, or the other RBs. In addition, Boren previously played as a LB and could also be used as a LB. He can step right into the ST and starting FB role right away. He could become an emergency depth LB if needed. Too much upside with him not to grab him here.
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First problem I see is you seem to be rating Manual higher than other evaluators. NFL DraftScout has him #51 which should easily place him there for Eagles high second round. Rantsports.com mock by Langley McGhee has him going to Eagles in third. I like your trade just not for Manual.

Eagles needs seem more to be Nose which hurts Texans, safety and OT only if Winston is not signed. With FA signed they could go BPA in first (CB?) and still get QB in second with no trade up.
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First problem I see is you seem to be rating Manual higher than other evaluators. NFL DraftScout has him #51 which should easily place him there for Eagles high second round. Rantsports.com mock by Langley McGhee has him going to Eagles in third. I like your trade just not for Manual.

Eagles needs seem more to be Nose which hurts Texans, safety and OT only if Winston is not signed. With FA signed they could go BPA in first (CB?) and still get QB in second with no trade up.
QBs tend to jump up boards even is perceived value is not there. Its a reason Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, and Blaine Gabbert go in the top 12 picks in 2011. Maybe I am undervaluing Manuel and maybe he goes in the middle of the first round like Leftwich.

If Manuel is there at the end of the first round and the Eagles covet him, they may need to make the move. While he is not the same type of QB as Kaepernick, SF showed that a spread offense QB can work. As such they may need to trade up to make sure another team doesn't grab him first?
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First problem I see is you seem to be rating Manual higher than other evaluators. NFL DraftScout has him #51 which should easily place him there for Eagles high second round. Rantsports.com mock by Langley McGhee has him going to Eagles in third. I like your trade just not for Manual.

Eagles needs seem more to be Nose which hurts Texans, safety and OT only if Winston is not signed. With FA signed they could go BPA in first (CB?) and still get QB in second with no trade up.
There evaluation isn't gold. I think we have a really good chance of trading back to a team that wants a QB.
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QBs tend to jump up boards even is perceived value is not there. Its a reason Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, and Blaine Gabbert go in the top 12 picks in 2011.
I agree. Not to mention that EJ has been invited to the draft.
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I really like Manuel and would love to snap him up if he was there when we pick. He'd have a chance to watch for a year as the Schaub era plays out. He's a little raw but his size, arm, and mobility are everything you want in a qb.
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I like an idea of trading down. Should be good players available in 2nd and 3rd.
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I really like Manuel and would love to snap him up if he was there when we pick. He'd have a chance to watch for a year as the Schaub era plays out. He's a little raw but his size, arm, and mobility are everything you want in a qb.
I respectfully disagree.

I just don't like the guy as a starting QB. He reminds me too much of a Jason Campebell (at best) or Terrell Pyror (at worst) prospect. He is not a good passer. He makes many poor decision especially when things become quick. He lacks field vision. He tends to lock onto targets rather than work through progressions. He is too quick to run. His accuracy is iffy. He struggled against quality NFL defenses(like Florida).

While he certainly is a big strong powerful guy, he is more an athlete than QB. If you wanted to take him in the 3rd and let him develop that would be one thing. But, like Campebell, if you take him in the first you will likely be disappointed.
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I really like Manuel and would love to snap him up if he was there when we pick. He'd have a chance to watch for a year as the Schaub era plays out. He's a little raw but his size, arm, and mobility are everything you want in a qb.
I don't get why anyone would like him outside of his physical ability. I was very excited for him to start for the Noles, but then reality crept in. Reality showed that Manuel couldn't make reads fast enough and was essentially afraid to make decisions. Take off and run? Throw to the post? The out? Dump off to the RB? Too many options for Manuel. He can't decide consistently enough and he can't read a defense to help him make a decision. Sure he has mobility, mobility that he was also afraid to use. We ran the option with Christian Ponder. Guess what happened when Manuel came in? We ran it for 3 games until it became obvious that Manuel didn't want to run, he didn't like it AND he got injured. He doesn't make a decision to scramble fast enough either. His ability to scramble is basically moot when his mind becomes involved. He has size. He has strength, too. He's also a nice guy that can run fast and throw far as well. The problem is that his mind doesn't understand that. His mind does not allow him to tap his full physical ability. We've seen it 100 times. This is just another example.

As much as I would have LOVED for this kid to have been legit, he just wasn't. I saw too much of him to be wrong. So, I guess this is me saying that I can't be wrong about this, even though that's ridiculous. I've just seen too much of him to ever put my faith in him even for one more down.

BTW, Wolfe from NC State is a good player. I remember watching him over the years and him jumping out at me for making key plays. I couldn't really give you a breakdown of the guy, because most of those memories are limited, but I remember liking him for some time now.

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There evaluation isn't gold. I think we have a really good chance of trading back to a team that wants a QB.
Agreed. Every year we see prospects overdrafted. Considering we are moving towards a passing league, overreaching on QBs will become more common.
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