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Old 03-17-2013   #1
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On the subject of the Indy Colts, anyone who doesn't realize that they are now
right there with the Texans when it comes to talent have their head in the sand.
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Really. How so. Ind has a rag tag squad on d. No pass crusher's. One of the worst linebacker core aside from angered. Their talent isn't near balanced. I would even say they have a worse situation on their oline.
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Irsay seems like he's a bit nuttier these days. Potential signs of an Al Davis syndrome?
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Irsay seems like he's a bit nuttier these days. Potential signs of an Al Davis syndrome?
I've often read that the universe abhors a vacuum so if that's true I guess someone was bound to step up and try to fill those shoes.
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On the subject of the Indy Colts, anyone who doesn't realize that they are now
right there with the Texans when it comes to talent have their head in the sand.
I still think the Texans are the better team right now. But I wouldn't be surprised if Indy passes us soon. I think our division title streak stops at 3 to be honest.
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I still think the Texans are the better team right now. But I wouldn't be surprised if Indy passes us soon. I think our division title streak stops at 3 to be honest.
They signed a few players this free agency period, but they mostly overpaid for middling talent. I really don't see them jumping ahead of the Texans this year or next, unless they find their own JJ Watt or Von Miller. Their defense is still atrocious and Luck is still growing. I don't expect them to get much better this next year, and I think they will regress playing a tougher schedule.
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Agreed!

I think they still have a lot of holes to fill.
And that defense needs sometimes to put it together.

They do have a lot of money though!
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The Colts have Andrew Luck.

I don't even care if the rest of their roster doesn't stack up to what the Texans have.

When you have that kind of QB (potentially) or a QB playing at a high level your team will always have a shot.

The Colts Roster was worse last season than it is now and we are worse now than we were last season (or at the very least nowhere near as deep) as it currently stands.

They gave us all we could handle in Reliant and they beat us in Indy. We can beat those guys, but It's far from signed, sealed and delivered. Personally I think Indy is going to be a much better team next year.
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They signed a few players this free agency period, but they mostly overpaid for middling talent. I really don't see them jumping ahead of the Texans this year or next, unless they find their own JJ Watt or Von Miller. Their defense is still atrocious and Luck is still growing. I don't expect them to get much better this next year, and I think they will regress playing a tougher schedule.
They were an extremely "lucky" team last season. Their point differential was -30 which put them with the likes of Dallas (8-8) and Miami (7-9). How many fluky come back wins did they have?

Some folks thought the Titans would win the AFCS last season, as an up-and-coming team after their surprising first season with Munchak. They finished 6-10 and in third place. I see something similar happening here with the Colts.
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On the subject of the Indy Colts, anyone who doesn't realize that they are now
right there with the Texans when it comes to talent have their head in the sand.
Sorry, but I just don't agree. They were lucky last year. As someone already said, they were a big negative in point differential. Andrew Luck also had a 76.5 qb rating. He will improve for sure, but he is not a world beater yet. He had some comebacks last year which is why everyone slobbed on his knob. Wilson and RG3 had much better rookie campaigns having qb ratings near and above 100. Who have they added with their capspace? Gosder Cherilus? Greg Toler? Erik Walden? LaRon Landry? They wasted their money in my opinion. None of those guys are that good.
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Sorry, but I just don't agree. They were lucky last year. As someone already said, they were a big negative in point differential. Andrew Luck also had a 76.5 qb rating. He will improve for sure, but he is not a world beater yet. He had some comebacks last year which is why everyone slobbed on his knob. Wilson and RG3 had much better rookie campaigns having qb ratings near and above 100. Who have they added with their capspace? Gosder Cherilus? Greg Toler? Erik Walden? LaRon Landry? They wasted their money in my opinion. None of those guys are that good.
Andrew Luck was a rookie last year and with that whole year of starting experience now under his belt it's not unreasonable for Colts fans to expect him to be vastly better this year. And speaking of luck, we had 2 overtime games including the one in Detroit with that incredible break that permitted our RB to scamper in the EZ without any defensive player in pursuit. Without that gift we end up in a tie for the AFC South with the Colts. And talent wise our 2011 team was better than our 2012 tam and last years team was more talented than this years team while the Colts are going in exactly the opposite direction. I'd say that's a definite trend which does not bode well for Texans fans.
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Andrew Luck was a rookie last year and with that whole year of starting experience now under his belt it's not unreasonable for Colts fans to expect him to be vastly better this year. And speaking of luck, we had 2 overtime games including the one in Detroit with that incredible break that permitted our RB to scamper in the EZ without any defensive player in pursuit. Without that gift we end up in a tie for the AFC South with the Colts. And talent wise our 2011 team was better than our 2012 tam and last years team was more talented than this years team while the Colts are going in exactly the opposite direction. I'd say that's a definite trend which does not bode well for Texans fans.
You can say whatever you want but at the end of the day the Texans had a plus 85 point differential. And not really sure how you can even talk about the 2013-2014 Texans team. They haven't even held the draft yet where they will have several picks and free agency goes on for a good while. The Colts have done nothing in free agency to turn the tide. They need major improvement from Luck and a good draft.
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And not to be an ass, but Pagano isn't likely to be sick again. They rode a lot of emotion with the "Chuck Strong" angle. It wouldn't surprise me if they were neck and neck with us next year, but it also wouldn't surprise me if they went 6-10.
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On the subject of the Indy Colts, anyone who doesn't realize that they are now
right there with the Texans when it comes to talent have their head in the sand.
Not yet.

They have some nice pieces but a lot of expectations are based on projection rather than actual gameplay.

For example: Luck was #26 in passer rating, #14 in touchdown passes, threw the 3rd most ints, and was #17 in yards per attempt. These are hardly great stats. Quite frankly, he was the third best rookie QB last year(Wilson and RGIII were better.) These are hardly great stats. In comparison: Schaub was #6 in passer rating, #15 in td passes, thew the 17th most Ints, and
had the 10th most yards per attempt. On the surface Schaub had better numbers than Luck.

Of course, Luck was also a rookie and Schaub was playing in his 6th year as a starter(9th overall). I imagine Luck will take a step or two forward, but he hasn't' done it yet. He has not earned the benefit of the doubt. They have some talant, but I won't say they are as talented as the Texans until I see how the two rosters shake out and see the actual play on the field.

The nice thing about football is we won't have to guess: we have two games to find out
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I agree. Would not surprise me at all to see them win the division next season.
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