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Old 03-03-2013   #1
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27. Houston - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
Z-Report Says: I thought about putting WRs DeAndre Hopkins or Robert Woods here, but the way my board is going, the Texans would probably see strong WR value in the 2nd round. I put Manti Te’o here and then deleted it because my guess is that they will want to go with another, less expensive ILB in round 2 or 3 to compete with Darryl Sharpton. Jones, is a tough DE with good strength who would be tabbed to replace Antonio Smith down the road. Jones has the quickness to attack the gaps in Wade Phillips’ defense scheme and he has shown the ability to handle himself against the run.
This guy looks like a football player. I think it would be interesting to see him on our defense. However, with Antonio coming off back-to-back career years, I just don't see this happening.

I believe this has been posted in another thread. I started this one, because I wanted to talk about some of his other picks.

Arizona selects Gino Smith with the 7th overall pick.
I know Arizona has had some trouble as of late with their QB position. Other than Kurt Warner it seems they can't find one that sticks. They tried a top ten selection with Matt Lienart, a FA phenom with Kevin Kolb, & a darkhorse with John Skelton.

I'm thinking maybe the QB isn't the problem. If I'm Arizona I'm asking myself if I have a foundation to develop a QB. They've also struggled with the running game. Running & passing problems generally have a common source. I believe that starts with the center & works out.

I'd stick with Skelton & Kolb and build the trenches.
8 Buffalo: Eziekial Ansah
This guy appears to be a bad ass, & I know there are many who want to believe the Mario endeavor failed. However, they've got a very talented DL. A first overall in Mario, a third overall in Marcell, a bad ass in Kyle Williams, and an underrated (imo) Mark Anderson.

Like Houston, their problem is most likely on the back end. Aaron Williams (34th overall 2011 draft), Stephon Gillmore (10th overall 2012 draft), Da'Norris Searcy (100th overall 2011 draft).... very young group here, no veteran presence. I'd either improve my coaching staff or get a veteran player on the back end through FA (Danieal Manning via trade perhaps), or both.

If I'm Buffalo, I'm looking at LT Lane Johnson, or WR Cordarelle Patterson, and a QB in the second or third to develop & push Fitzpatrick.
9. NYJets Matt Barkley

They've got a log jam at QB right now. Sanchez (or Franchez based on his last conract), Greg McElroy, Tim Tebow... & that nearly broke them in 2012. I don't think they are going to take another QB out of USC & start all over again. They'll get a vet if they aren't happy with their current line up.
12. Miami Cordarelle Patterson
If they get Mike Wallace & Cordarelle.... watch out.
I like all the picks from there, especially Latuleilei to the Cowboys & Fluker to the Giants.

What I don't like is the run on WRs before our pick. Allen, Hopkins, & Austin all gone from 22 to 25.

What are your thoughts?
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Mocked Datone Jones to Texans over a month ago.
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I'm not that impressed with Jones' tape. Quick gap shooter/quick first move, but doesn't finish and will take a play off. I'm not seeing "the ability to handle himself against the run." Methinks Jones is more an underwear olympics winner.

LZ has 4 WRs off the board for our pick, which would be unfortunate:
12. Miami - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
22. St. Louis – Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
23. Minnesota - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
25. Seattle - Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
I think I'd explore moving down if the board shakes out like this.

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I love the Jets drafting another USC QB to sit behind Sanchez.

It'll take him a year or two to fully grasp some pieces of their sophisticated playbook.

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I think I'd explore moving down if the board shakes out like this.
Who would you be targeting on a trade down?
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Would anybody take Hunt before Jones because he has a higher ceiling ?
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Would anybody take Hunt before Jones because he has a higher ceiling ?
I would! But not in the first round.
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LZ has 4 WRs off the board for our pick, which would be unfortunate:

12. Miami - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
22. St. Louis – Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
23. Minnesota - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
25. Seattle - Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia

I think I'd explore moving down if the board shakes out like this.
Yeah, this scenario would kinda suck. I'm hoping either Allen or Hopkins falls. But, if it does turn out like this, then moving down may be a better option. There should still be some good WR's left in the early 2nd and you could probably pick between Woods, Hunter, Patton, and Swope.
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Who would you be targeting on a trade down?
Depends on what we do before the draft and who we trade with, but one of the NTs, S Cyprien/Elam, (do we need an OLB moving Reed inside?) Jamie Collins, or of course one of the remaining WRs - Patton, Hunter, Woods.
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I'm not that impressed with Jones' tape. Quick gap shooter/quick first move, but doesn't finish and will take a play off. I'm not seeing "the ability to handle himself against the run." Methinks Jones is more an underwear olympics winner.

LZ has 4 WRs off the board for our pick, which would be unfortunate:
12. Miami - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
22. St. Louis – Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
23. Minnesota - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
25. Seattle - Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
I think I'd explore moving down if the board shakes out like this.

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I love the Jets drafting another USC QB to sit behind Sanchez.

It'll take him a year or two to fully grasp some pieces of their sophisticated playbook.

This!!! This is typical over evaluating a player because he looked good in one on one drills at the senior bowl. He also played well in the senior bowl. Because of that he has shot up the internet big boards. Happens every year.

Game tape people, watch it!!!!
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I'm not that impressed with Jones' tape. Quick gap shooter/quick first move, but doesn't finish and will take a play off. I'm not seeing "the ability to handle himself against the run." Methinks Jones is more an underwear olympics winner.

LZ has 4 WRs off the board for our pick, which would be unfortunate:
12. Miami - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
22. St. Louis – Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
23. Minnesota - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
25. Seattle - Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
I think I'd explore moving down if the board shakes out like this.
My question to LZ would be: If any of these guys are available at #27, do the Texans definitely pick him? In other words, which of these choices (if not all of them) are still the best available?
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If our draft fell the way LZ has it, I'd much rather pick Kawann Short, Justin Hunter, Quinton Patton, or Jonathan Banks over Datone Jones. I just don't see Jones being able to add enough weight/bulk to be an effective 3-4 DE.
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If our draft fell the way LZ has it, I'd much rather pick Kawann Short, Justin Hunter, Quinton Patton, or Jonathan Banks over Datone Jones. I just don't see Jones being able to add enough weight/bulk to be an effective 3-4 DE.
I'm not sure I understand your concern...nfldraftscout has him listed at 6'4" and 283. That's identical to Antonio Smith and he's quite effect.
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I'm not sure I understand your concern...nfldraftscout has him listed at 6'4" and 283. That's identical to Antonio Smith and he's quite effect.
You keep saying this.

But Antonio is listed at 295. 6'3" or 6'4" is not prototypical size for a 3-4 DE. Antonio has been successful for us, but I think he's more the exception to the rule.
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My question to LZ would be: If any of these guys are available at #27, do the Texans definitely pick him? In other words, which of these choices (if not all of them) are still the best available?

And my answer would be, "yes, they take Keenan Allen if he were still there".
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I like LZs Draft and hope we do take the top lineman, be he defensive or offensive, with our top pick when the Draft rolls around. I do believe the game is basically won at the LOS. And this is said to be a very deep Draft for WRs so we should be able to pick up a talented prospect at that position in the second-round.
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