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Old 02-25-2013   #1
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To add to it not only was he extended but the guy basically took a pay cut. He got extended for 3 years 27 million dollars which of course will give the Patriots more room to make moves. In '13 and '14 alone he will now be $15 million dollars less against the cap than previously. Guess you can say what you will about the guy but for him it is about winning. He actually took less to help his team.
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To add to it not only was he extended but the guy basically took a pay cut. He got extended for 3 years 27 million dollars which of course will give the Patriots more room to make moves. In '13 and '14 alone he will now be $15 million dollars less against the cap than previously. Guess you can say what you will about the guy but for him it is about winning. He actually took less to help his team.
Please the guy is not being altruistic at all. He got $3 mil to add years to his contract that everyone in the world knows he won't play or won't play at that price. This was pure cap management.
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Please the guy is not being altruistic at all. He got $3 mil to add years to his contract that everyone in the world knows he won't play or won't play at that price. This was pure cap management.
Not only that but the dude could play for free until 2017 and not have to worry about anything financially, I think his wife makes more than him.
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Not only that but the dude could play for free until 2017 and not have to worry about anything financially, I think his wife makes more than him.
I think even Matt Schaub makes more than him.
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I think even Matt Schaub makes more than him.
Schaub is set to get $7.25 mil and Brady will get $14.75 mil in 2013 (that is actual payments, rather than cap hit).
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I think even Matt Schaub makes more than him.
The numbers for Brady don't add up.
There's no way that his cap hit can be reduced without the Patriots giving him some more bonus money.
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Not only that but the dude could play for free until 2017 and not have to worry about anything financially, I think his wife makes more than him.
I read his wife made $45 million last year
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Exactly why I was against re-signing Schaub too early. We should have taken a close and hard look at him this off-season, while he became an unrestricted free agent. Kudos to Tom Brady for helping his team create more salary cap space so they can add more good players to their roster. But I don't blame Matt Schaub at all for taking what was offered to him.

This is purely Rick Smith's fault for not understanding how to build a real champion. He over-pays past the market value for several players. And this was after we had already lost several good players last off-season due to salary restrictions: Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans (traded), Jacoby Jones, Eric Winston and Mike Brisiel to name a few. I can even name Vonta Leach a few off-season ago. Apparently a pro bowl fullback playing with the current Super Bowl championship team wasn't worth the big bucks either.

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Pats sign Brady to deal much smaller than Schaub’s

By: Jay Lee - Ultimate Texans

Sometimes the best quarterback isn’t the one making the most money.

According to a Sports Illustrated report Monday, Tom Brady has agreed to a three-year, $27 million extension with the Patriots. Need some context for that figure? The Texans’ Matt Schaub signed a four-year, $62 million extension last year, and the Jets’ Mark Sanchez received a three-year, $40 million extension.

Brady’s deal gives the Patriots a lot of salary-cap flexibility. His extension, according to the report, includes a $3 million signing bonus and salaries of $7 million in 2015, $8 million in 2016 and $9 million in 2017.

Brady has won three Super Bowls with the Patriots and is a two-time NFL MVP.
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Exactly why I was against re-signing Schaub too early. We should have taken a close and hard look at him this off-season, while he became an unrestricted free agent. Kudos to Tom Brady for helping his team create more salary cap space so they can add more good players to their roster. But I don't blame Matt Schaub at all for taking what was offered to him.

This is purely Rick Smith's fault for not understanding how to build a real champion. He over-pays past the market value for several players. And this was after we had already lost several good players last off-season due to salary restrictions: Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans (traded), Jacoby Jones, Eric Winston and Mike Brisiel to name a few. I can even name Vonta Leach a few off-season ago. Apparently a pro bowl fullback playing with the current Super Bowl championship team wasn't worth the big bucks either.

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By: Jay Lee - Ultimate Texans

Sometimes the best quarterback isn’t the one making the most money.

According to a Sports Illustrated report Monday, Tom Brady has agreed to a three-year, $27 million extension with the Patriots. Need some context for that figure? The Texans’ Matt Schaub signed a four-year, $62 million extension last year, and the Jets’ Mark Sanchez received a three-year, $40 million extension.

Brady’s deal gives the Patriots a lot of salary-cap flexibility. His extension, according to the report, includes a $3 million signing bonus and salaries of $7 million in 2015, $8 million in 2016 and $9 million in 2017.

Brady has won three Super Bowls with the Patriots and is a two-time NFL MVP.
Where would Texans be if they waited to this of season and Schaub took another offer? TJ Yates would be the starter. Not saying he could not succeed but no way is he better than Matt. I do not see any Qb there in first to beat out Yates. Texans made a great deal to lock in a playoff QB as no other option. It does not matter one iota what Brady signed for as he was not playing for us. It simply came down to Schaub or a drop way down in quality to replace him. You cannot just assume Matt would accept a deal in the off season. QBs are prime and he is one of the better ones. It is just as likely he would have gone elsewhere if Smith low balled him as remaining for a lesser deal.
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Where would Texans be if they waited to this of season and Schaub took another offer? 1. TJ Yates would be the starter.
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2. Not saying he could not succeed but no way is he better than Matt.
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We're talking about the SAME T.J. Yates who beat Cincy more convincingly last year than Schaub did this year and the SAME guy who played a CONSIDERABLY better game against Baltimore last year than Schaub did THIS year? Yeah you're right he sucks.

Sorry, but I must respectfully disagree with you on this one.


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4. It is just as likely he would have gone elsewhere if Smith low balled him as remaining for a lesser deal.
Three teams with rookie QB's were in the play offs this year and ONE of those was IN the Superbowl. QB's aren't a dime a dozen, but if you are one of the few BLESSED enough to play QB you should play every down as if it is the LAST one of your career. Rodgers does that, Brees does that, Brady does that Roethisburger and Manning have made careers of it. Schaub sees 3 and out as "part of the game" and is content with hustling down the field to get into field goal range. Your goal as a QB should NOT be to make your kicker have a record year by making him the team's leading scorer, nor should you settle for it. If that is in fact the case YOU should be on the sidelines with the offense while your defense is on the field telling your receivers about weaknesses you spotted in the secondary on the last series. You should tell your O-line about patterns you've noticed in the defense and tells they give to indicate what package they're running OR how they're responding to audibles. In other words be IMMERSED in that game as the team leader. Schaub isn't that guy. He's a career back up and the past few years (IMHO) have borne that out. As long as we keep him where he is we'll be that group of perpetual bridesmaids who makes it to the 2nd round of the playoffs only to watch SOMEONE ELSE go to the big dance.
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Three teams with rookie QB's were in the play offs this year and ONE of those was IN the Superbowl.
neither Kaepernick or Flacco were rookies in 2012.
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neither Kaepernick or Flacco were rookies in 2012.
Thought Kaepernick was a rookie. If he wasn't ESPN and the powers that be sure as hell made it seem like their narrative was "Harbaugh gives rookie nod over veteran...and goes to superbowl."
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... YOU should be on the sidelines with the offense while your defense is on the field telling your receivers about weaknesses you spotted in the secondary on the last series. You should tell your O-line about patterns you've noticed in the defense and tells they give to indicate what package they're running OR how they're responding to audibles. In other words be IMMERSED in that game as the team leader. Schaub isn't that guy. He's a career back up and the past few years (IMHO) have borne that out.
I do agree with this. I don't necessarily need to see Schaub yelling at his team, chewing people out or whatever, that doesn't say "leader" to me. It says "spoiled brat"

But I'd love to see more of Schaub talking to his receivers on the sideline. Whether they be WRs, TEs, RBs, or FBs. I'd like to know that he & they are talking about what they are seeing & trying to get on the same page. Same way with his OL.

I didn't watch much of the Pro Bowl. But what little bit I did watch, I saw Peyton talking to at least two of the receivers. They might have been talking about Buick endorsements for all I know, but it looked like they were sharing information about what they were seeing & what they were thinking & Peyton helping that receiver be more successful on the field.

I want to see that from my QB on the regular.
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We're talking about the SAME T.J. Yates who beat Cincy more convincingly last year than Schaub did this year and the SAME guy who played a CONSIDERABLY better game against Baltimore last year than Schaub did THIS year? Yeah you're right he sucks.

Sorry, but I must respectfully disagree with you on this one.
While I'm no Schaub fan I have to disagree on this part. Yates did not beat the Bengals. The Texans did. All Yates did was manage the game. His stat line was 11 for 20 for 159 yards and 1 touchdown. That's it. He did little to nothing other than stay out of the way and don't make mistakes. The win was more about the defense (Got to love Watt's INT) and Foster averaging 6.4 per carry.

And Baltimore...ugh the memories. Yates was freaking horrible and the main reason we lost. The defense held Baltimore including Rice and we out gained them in yards. But Jacoby and Yates turned the ball over four times and Yates completed less than 50% of his passes for a whopping 184 yards. He was horrible that game.

I can say I rather they waited til the end of the year to re-sign Schaub at least when it comes to the length of the deal. But money wise it isn't that big of a hit and falls in place market value wise so don't find it that much of a big deal.

As for Brady...sorry I have to disagree saying it isn't unselfish. Again, not even a Brady fan but doesn't mean I can't respect him for what he did. His wife makes money? That's nice. Still in a sport where many players hold out or seek deals simply because they feel they are top of their position and deserve to be paid as such it's nice to see someone say they'll take a smaller salary so the team can make moves. Like him or hate him he is still argued to be one of the best to play his position all time and easily is worth double that contract and that flimsy 3 million signing. So I can give a man credit where do.
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As for Brady...sorry I have to disagree saying it isn't unselfish. Again, not even a Brady fan but doesn't mean I can't respect him for what he did. His wife makes money? That's nice. Still in a sport where many players hold out or seek deals simply because they feel they are top of their position and deserve to be paid as such it's nice to see someone say they'll take a smaller salary so the team can make moves. Like him or hate him he is still argued to be one of the best to play his position all time and easily is worth double that contract and that flimsy 3 million signing. So I can give a man credit where do.
Kevin Walter took a pay cut. At the end of the day, for that year & the life of the contract, he's going to make less money than he would have with the original deal.

I don't think that is the case with Brady. I'll have to look at it. But adding years to bring the cap number down does not equal a pay cut. Now, he is signed through the 2017 season right? I bet he gets another "extension" before that. He'll make more money with this extension over the same time period as he would have without the extension. This is a "win-win" for both parties. The team gets more cap flexibility, Brady gets more money up front.
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We're talking about the SAME T.J. Yates who beat Cincy more convincingly last year than Schaub did this year and the SAME guy who played a CONSIDERABLY better game against Baltimore last year than Schaub did THIS year? Yeah you're right he sucks.

Sorry, but I must respectfully disagree with you on this one.
First of all... I'm not a believer in one guy wins or loses a game. It's a team game. But using your logic... yes, we're talking about the SAME TJ Yates that lost to the worst team in the league (Colts). The same TJ Yates that led the offense to 18.6 points a game, while Schaub averaged 27.3 a game. The same TJ Yates that led the offense to 322.8 yards/game, while Schaub averaged 396.2 yards/game.

And in regards to your Baltimore statement, I assume that's a joke. I won't even touch it.

I'm actually a fan of TJ, I like his potential... but as of right now, I'm extremely happy we're not going into next season with Yates as the starter.
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First of all... I'm not a believer in one guy wins or loses a game. It's a team game. But using your logic... yes, we're talking about the SAME TJ Yates that lost to the worst team in the league (Colts).
Hold on a second. Let's re-visit that game (play-by-play link).

TJ had that game at 16-12 with 1:56 left on the game clock.

It was the DEFENSE that gave up a game winning drive in the two minute warning to Dan Orlovsky.

I'm not sure how you can blame TJ Yates for the failure of "one of the best defenses in the league".
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