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Old 01-26-2013   #1
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Default Looks Like Everything's Changing with the Cowboys..........

..........exception Jerruh. Besides the recent Ratliff DUI/accident (still awaiting BAC levels), the Cowboys are apparently headed for ultra turmoil. I expect Jerruh to take over HC duties to go along with his pristine handling of the GM position.

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We left for the Senior Bowl on Monday in search of answers.

All we got from Dallas Cowboys officials was confusion.

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Ed Werder joins Ben and Skin to talk about Troy Aikman's recent comments about Jason Garrett, the ties the new Cowboys coaches have with Jon Gruden and Jerry Jones' continued unwillingness to fire Garrett.

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What we do know is that Jerry Jones has hinted that Jason Garrett won't call plays in 2013. Jones didn't say who would call plays, but all indications are that offensive line coach/offensive coordinator Bill Callahan will take over those duties.

It would appear to be a step back for Garrett, but Jones has tried spin the situation so that it doesn't look like a demotion for his head coach. Jones' preference to have a "walk-around" coach represents a change in thinking. It was just a few months ago that Jones shared a story of how former Washington Redskins coach Joe Gibbs said it was best for a head coach to call plays on either the offense or defense. That way, Gibbs said, it gives the appearance the coach had a hand in a victory or defeat.

Jones hired head coaches Chan Gailey, Wade Phillips and Garrett under this model. Now it seems he is switching gears. Jones points out that Garrett will still have a hand in the day-to-day operations of the football team. Well, that's fine and good, but he's always had that.

Garrett has two years remaining on his contract, and if this whole thing doesn't work out with him in 2013 it's clear he won't get another year to fix it. Jones clearly appears to be taking more power away from Garrett by the day.

Garrett, however, has still been involved in the interview process for offensive coaches. The Cowboys need a running backs coach and tight ends coach and most likely a wide receivers coach. Garrett conducted interviews at the Senior Bowl, ducking out after watching a few moments of practices to greet coaches.

Then, of course, there's the issue of Rob Ryan's dismissal. The Fort Worth Star-Telegram had a report that Garrett said the defensive coordinator was let go because his unit didn't create enough turnovers. The Dallas Morning News countered that Garrett's comments about Ryan were taken out of context.

A few weeks ago, Jones said on KRLD-FM that part of the reason he let Ryan go was because of losses at Seattle and against Chicago, games he felt the defense didn't do its part.

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Default Re: Looks Like Everything's Changing with the Cowboys..........

Oh football gods, please wave your magic wands and sprinkle enough pixie dust across the Cowgirls alter to convince Jerruh to take over as Head Coach & Offensive Coordinator!

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One thing about the Cowboys franchise, obviously don't need to be a winner to remain popular. Not sure why that is ?
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One thing about the Cowboys franchise, obviously don't need to be a winner to remain popular. Not sure why that is ?
They are not as popular as they once were. They are slowly leaching fans and will continue to do so as their fans age and get tired of jerrah and as young fans pick new teams to follow.
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One thing about the Cowboys franchise, obviously don't need to be a winner to remain popular. Not sure why that is ?
Still a lot of fans around that remember the Superbowl teams from the 70's and 90's. Many of those fans passed their fandom down to kids. If Jerry continues jacking with the team the way he does the only thing he will have to root for is being #1 in merchandise sells. He put the money up for the team, guess he can do what he wants with it though. Who needs Madden franchise mode when you got the real deal.
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Because they're on television in so many markets.
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Because they're on television in so many markets.
It seems like today, there are as many watching the Girls rooting they lose as those rooting for them to win. Jerruh has managed to turn this franchise totally around.......from winners to losers. He's basically made a business of making money by creating and promoting a loser.........genius.
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Because they're on television in so many markets.
Which is a chicken and egg argument at best. They are on in so many markets because they are so popular. They were smart in having training camp in LA. They owned TX but for Houston. Half of LA were Cowboys fans. Basically lots of the country other than those with very nearby good teams became Cowboys fans. They were the white hats who waited for Rodger the Dodger to come back from serving his country in Vietnam. For goodness sakes the Loveboat used to have an annual episode with the Cowboys' cheerleaders. As ESAD said there are still a lot of folks around who remember both the '70's and '90's Cowboys teams. You've got the order backwards.
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Which is a chicken and egg argument at best. They are on in so many markets because they are so popular. They were smart in having training camp in LA. They owned TX but for Houston. Half of LA were Cowboys fans. Basically lots of the country other than those with very nearby good teams became Cowboys fans. They were the white hats who waited for Rodger the Dodger to come back from serving his country in Vietnam. For goodness sakes the Loveboat used to have an annual episode with the Cowboys' cheerleaders. As ESAD said there are still a lot of folks around who remember both the '70's and '90's Cowboys teams. You've got the order backwards.
Well said. I agree with this 100000 percent.

People are used to the Cowboys because they're shoved down our throats in major, national games; as a result, people are used to seeing them, and don't complain when they're bad because, well, they're the Cowboys, and we're used to seeing them so much.

If networks were to stop giving the Cowboys 900 primetime games every season, eventually viewers will stop caring.

'Round and round. Total chicken and egg scenario.
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Which is a chicken and egg argument at best. They are on in so many markets because they are so popular. They were smart in having training camp in LA. They owned TX but for Houston. Half of LA were Cowboys fans. Basically lots of the country other than those with very nearby good teams became Cowboys fans. They were the white hats who waited for Rodger the Dodger to come back from serving his country in Vietnam. For goodness sakes the Loveboat used to have an annual episode with the Cowboys' cheerleaders. As ESAD said there are still a lot of folks around who remember both the '70's and '90's Cowboys teams. You've got the order backwards.
Well said. I'm part of that 70s kid fan group. People have to remember that.. And this was discussed in the dynasty thread...they won in 25 of 30 years from 65-95. Despite the downfall that's a track record that people hang on to. I'm frustrated with Jerry and think he is running things wrong but people still think he wants to win and will put money into the team. There are people who are moving away from the team but it is small compared to those holding out. Remember the Arizona games? 75% were Cowboy fans. They make any noise in the next few years and those who "left" will be back.
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Which is a chicken and egg argument at best. They are on in so many markets because they are so popular. They were smart in having training camp in LA. They owned TX but for Houston. Half of LA were Cowboys fans. Basically lots of the country other than those with very nearby good teams became Cowboys fans. They were the white hats who waited for Rodger the Dodger to come back from serving his country in Vietnam. For goodness sakes the Loveboat used to have an annual episode with the Cowboys' cheerleaders. As ESAD said there are still a lot of folks around who remember both the '70's and '90's Cowboys teams. You've got the order backwards.
I think since they have been & remain competitive against the NFC East also helps. Around here, we've got people that love any team that plays the Cowboys...

I spent a little time in the North East this past summer, & there are a lot of people that feel that way about the local team. I talked to several people who were Cowboy fans (didn't even know we had a team) because they beat up on the 'skins.... or the Eagles.... I'm sure there are those that like the Cowboys because they beat up on the Giants.
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Because they're on television in so many markets.
With or without TV they aren't winners ? Since when do large audiences continue to support losers
year after year ?
Several of the the great teams of legendary status have returned to their glory days including Green Bay, Pittsburgh, the NY Giants, and just lately the 49ers but where's the Cowboys ? Back in the pack with the likes of the Dolphins & Raiders and that's not a positive comparison.
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