Do you think we could have beat the Ravens? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

thunderkyss · 01-23-2013

Not that I want to do the coulda, woulda, shoulda thing. I'm really going for a feel of the team kind of thing... trying to see where your confidence is with this team.

So the question is if Baltimore played like they played Sunday, could our team have beat them?

Try not to make it anymore complicated than it has to be, yes or no.

TexansBlood · 01-23-2013

We match up well against them so yes.

CretorFrigg · 01-23-2013

I don't think so. We were getting progressively worse as the season went on. The Ravens team we beat was injured, without their starting corner, Ray Lewis, etc.

I don't have enough faith in Schaub to step it up in the playoffs to lead us to the Super Bowl.

**Thorn** · 01-23-2013

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Originally Posted by CretorFrigg

I don't think so. We were getting progressively worse as the season went on. The Ravens team we beat was injured, without their starting corner, Ray Lewis, etc.

I don't have enough faith in Schaub to step it up in the playoffs to lead us to the Super Bowl.

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HoustonRaven · 01-23-2013

I'm not going to say if y'all would have won or not (any given Sunday and all), but I do know that this Ravens fan did not want to see you guys during the playoffs.

Our better match up was NE without a doubt.

TD · 01-23-2013

I assumed you meant would instead of could, so I voted no.

Scooter · 01-23-2013

most definitely. we're a very favorable matchup against the ravens, especially with JJ Watt being a major factor. their style of run and outside passing is the strong suit of our defense, and we're better at exploiting linebackers in the run game to take away their strength.

**Double Barrel** · 01-23-2013

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Originally Posted by TD

I assumed you meant would instead of could, so I voted no.

I answered yes because he said "could".

I would have answered no if he had said "would".

**Double Barrel** · 01-23-2013

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Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

I'm not going to say if y'all would have won or not (any given Sunday and all), but I do know that this Ravens fan did not want to see you guys during the playoffs.

Our better match up was NE without a doubt.

Really good point. I think the Ravens were pumped a lot more for the Patriots than they would have been for the Texans. Your team was on fire last Sunday. I think a big part of that was an AFC championship re-match where vengeance was on their minds.

**disaacks3** · 01-23-2013

Could? Certainly.

Would? That's another matter, but homefield and confidence got a heck of a long way.

IMHO - I honestly think the Texans convinced themselves they couldn't beat Brady & Co.

**ObsiWan** · 01-23-2013

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Originally Posted by CretorFrigg

I don't think so. We were getting progressively worse as the season went on. The Ravens team we beat was injured, without their starting corner, Ray Lewis, etc.

I said as much in a different thread. The Ravens we beat in October were not the same Ravens that dismantled the Patriots last Sunday.

The Texans that put up forty on the Ravens in October was no where to be found in January.

Do you think we could have beat the Ravens?
Could? Maybe.

Would have? Seriously doubt it.

We have some growing to do. I'm looking at the NFLN replay of the AFCC game now. Two things are standing out: 1. The effectiveness of the Ravens' spread offense in running and passing against the Pats' defense. 2. how the Ravens made being the ball carrier - whether it was a RB or WR - a very painful experience.

handswarmer · 01-24-2013

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Originally Posted by ObsiWan

I said as much in a different thread. The Ravens we beat in October were not the same Ravens that dismantled the Patriots last Sunday.

The Texans that put up forty on the Ravens in October was no where to be found in January.

Do you think we could have beat the Ravens?
Could? Maybe.

Would have? Seriously doubt it.

We have some growing to do. I'm looking at the NFLN replay of the AFCC game now. Two things are standing out: 1. The effectiveness of the Ravens' spread offense in running and passing against the Pats' defense. 2. how the Ravens made being the ball carrier - whether it was a RB or WR - a very painful experience.

Post of the day^

Tailgate · 01-25-2013

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Originally Posted by ObsiWan

I said as much in a different thread. The Ravens we beat in October were not the same Ravens that dismantled the Patriots last Sunday.

The Texans that put up forty on the Ravens in October was no where to be found in January.

Do you think we could have beat the Ravens?
Could? Maybe.

Would have? Seriously doubt it.

We have some growing to do. I'm looking at the NFLN replay of the AFCC game now. Two things are standing out: 1. The effectiveness of the Ravens' spread offense in running and passing against the Pats' defense. 2. how the Ravens made being the ball carrier - whether it was a RB or WR - a very painful experience.

1) Losing Love and Talib hurt the Patriots.

2) Getting Cush back is a great start to help us improve in this area.

Uncle Rico · 01-25-2013

optimism is great.

Hervoyel · 01-23-2013

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Originally Posted by TexansBlood

We match up well against them so yes.

I'd say we match up better against them but I wouldn't go so far as to say we match up well against them.

This year I'm not sure anyone could have beaten the Ravens. Once a team starts to roll and pick up that kind of momentum it's hard for anyone to stop it. From a talent perspective yes, we match up better with the Ravens than we do with the Patriots. In terms of coaching we are clearly lacking in comparison to both of them.

TexansBlood · 01-23-2013

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Originally Posted by Hervoyel

I'd say we match up better against them but I wouldn't go so far as to say we match up well against them.

This year I'm not sure anyone could have beaten the Ravens. Once a team starts to roll and pick up that kind of momentum it's hard for anyone to stop it. From a talent perspective yes, we match up better with the Ravens than we do with the Patriots. In terms of coaching we are clearly lacking in comparison to both of them.

Eh Denver had that game won.. Who would of though a miracle TD to Jacoby to force overtime with 40sec left in the game...

DBCooper · 01-23-2013

Doesn't matter because Belichick and Brady have Wade and Gary figured out and Wade and Gary don't have a clue how to beat them.

Hervoyel · 01-23-2013

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Originally Posted by TexansBlood

Eh Denver had that game won.. Who would of though a miracle TD to Jacoby to force overtime with 40sec left in the game...

Exactly, and the roll began. We weren't getting past them. That team is far more resilient mentally than the Texans. When it comes to dealing with adversity the 2011 Texans might have been pretty capable but the 2012 Texans are not.

Rey · 01-23-2013

Last year people said had we beat the ravens we'd have beat NE. Now we're wondering if we had beat NE if we'd have beat the ravens.

Sigh.

Honoring Earl 34 · 01-23-2013

I think the Ravens earned the right to get that no vote .

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01-23-2013	#1
thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 25,735 Rep Power: 51478	Do you think we could have beat the Ravens? Not that I want to do the coulda, woulda, shoulda thing. I'm really going for a feel of the team kind of thing... trying to see where your confidence is with this team. So the question is if Baltimore played like they played Sunday, could our team have beat them? Try not to make it anymore complicated than it has to be, yes or no. __________________ I swear it's for real this time!

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TexansBlood The CUSH! Join Date: Mar 2009 Section: 115, Row G Age: 31 Posts: 537 Rep Power: 1732	Re: Do you think we could have beat the Ravens? We match up well against them so yes.

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CretorFrigg Win. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Texas Age: 31 Posts: 2,394 Rep Power: 13905	Re: Do you think we could have beat the Ravens? I don't think so. We were getting progressively worse as the season went on. The Ravens team we beat was injured, without their starting corner, Ray Lewis, etc. I don't have enough faith in Schaub to step it up in the playoffs to lead us to the Super Bowl. __________________

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HoustonRaven Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Re: Do you think we could have beat the Ravens? I'm not going to say if y'all would have won or not (any given Sunday and all), but I do know that this Ravens fan did not want to see you guys during the playoffs. Our better match up was NE without a doubt.

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TD TT Huckaboo Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Middle Georgia Age: 49 Posts: 10,199 Rep Power: 18142	Re: Do you think we could have beat the Ravens? I assumed you meant would instead of could, so I voted no. __________________ Stupidity is not a crime.....you're free to go

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Scooter Funky Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 4,210 Rep Power: 11587	Re: Do you think we could have beat the Ravens? most definitely. we're a very favorable matchup against the ravens, especially with JJ Watt being a major factor. their style of run and outside passing is the strong suit of our defense, and we're better at exploiting linebackers in the run game to take away their strength. __________________

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disaacks3 Site Contributor Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Spring, TX Section: 116 - Row M Age: 44 Posts: 8,932 Rep Power: 31254	Re: Do you think we could have beat the Ravens? Could? Certainly. Would? That's another matter, but homefield and confidence got a heck of a long way. IMHO - I honestly think the Texans convinced themselves they couldn't beat Brady & Co. __________________ Adopt-a-Texan 2012 - Ben Tate Last edited by disaacks3; 01-23-2013 at 04:15 PM.

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Uncle Rico Pro BS'er Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Near the Mountains Section: Nose Bleeds Posts: 159 Rep Power: 1358	Re: Do you think we could have beat the Ravens? optimism is great. __________________ "Back in '82 I could throw a pigskin a quarter mile ... dead serious" --- Me

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DBCooper Outlaw Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Winter Park, FL Age: 44 Posts: 2,455 Rep Power: 11142	Re: Do you think we could have beat the Ravens? Doesn't matter because Belichick and Brady have Wade and Gary figured out and Wade and Gary don't have a clue how to beat them. __________________ What's that at the bottom of the barrel? Just the inbred children of Uranus!

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Rey Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,703 Rep Power: 46112	Last year people said had we beat the ravens we'd have beat NE. Now we're wondering if we had beat NE if we'd have beat the ravens. Sigh.

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Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston Age: 50 Posts: 16,743 Rep Power: 35890	Re: Do you think we could have beat the Ravens? I think the Ravens earned the right to get that no vote . __________________ "I've been on food stamps and welfare, did anybody help me out? ... Craig T. Nelson:

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