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Old 01-18-2013   #1
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Default Time to replace Walter

I know, I know, he does the small things right. Well, I'm tired of the small things. We need another receiver who can do the small things AND big things right. Andre doesn't have many years left and Walter just can't seem to get open enough anymore.

If you weren't re-signing certain players this past off season because they didn't contribute enough on 3rd down defense, or dropped passes (which a no catch is equivalent to) then we can get rid of a receiver who isn't helping out the passing game much. And I've appreciated Walter over the seasons but it's about getting better.
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I know, I know, he does the small things right. Well, I'm tired of the small things. We need another receiver who can do the small things AND big things right. Andre doesn't have many years left and Walter just can't seem to get open enough anymore.

If you weren't re-signing certain players this past off season because they didn't contribute enough on 3rd down defense, or dropped passes (which a no catch is equivalent to) then we can get rid of a receiver who isn't helping out the passing game much. And I've appreciated Walter over the seasons but it's about getting better.
Couldn't agree more. Walter has had issues getting seperation & taking pressure off of Andre for a few years now. He simply cannot add anything to help the offense outside of his, overrated in my mind, blocking. His limited contributions have not earned him the right to be the starter & to be honest I'm sure not he would or could be a starter for any team outside of the Texans. Kubiak has carried him along long enough & considering Walter is due 3-3.5M next season I believe that money could be well spent elsewhere that could actually help this team progress.
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Couldn't agree more. Walter has had issues getting seperation & taking pressure off of Andre for a few years now. He simply cannot add anything to help the offense outside of his, overrated in my mind, blocking. His limited contributions have not earned him the right to be the starter & to be honest I'm sure not he would or could be a starter for any team outside of the Texans. Kubiak has carried him along long enough & considering Walter is due 3-3.5M next season I believe that money could be well spent elsewhere that could actually help this team progress.
Very true, I love Walter, but we have to move. Sucks that Posey had that devastating injury. I had high hopes for him. Athletes just aren't the same after that injury. Hopefully Posey can be an exception to the rule.
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bu bu but he's a legendary blocker!!!!!!!

smdh....

it seems like certain type of "people" get way too much benefit of the doubt and are held less accountable than others.
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It was time to replace Walter two years ago.
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This is what bums me out about Posey. I know he only has a small body of work but in that brief time he showed good blocking ability, good speed and good hands. I believe, if not for his injury, he'd be our number 2 next season.
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This is what bums me out about Posey. I know he only has a small body of work but in that brief time he showed good blocking ability, good speed and good hands. I believe, if not for his injury, he'd be our number 2 next season.
Definitely. That injury really sucks.
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This is what bums me out about Posey. I know he only has a small body of work but in that brief time he showed good blocking ability, good speed and good hands. I believe, if not for his injury, he'd be our number 2 next season.
I had my doubts about posey early on, but he was really coming on. It's unfortunate that we weren't allowed to see more of him, Jean, & Martin earlier in the season to get a true idea of what kind of talent they have. Kubiak, imo, held them back & because of that there continues to be questions about the position as a whole. I still have high hopes for all 3, but they need opportunities to play & that seems to have been hard to come by w/ Walter in the way.
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If he signs for vet minimum, I don't mind keeping him around. Even then, I would be worried that he keeps them from upgrading the position entirely.
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If he signs for vet minimum, I don't mind keeping him around. Even then, I would be worried that he keeps them from upgrading the position entirely.
He's already signed thru 2014. Set to make somewhere between 3-3.5M each of those years. Do you mean if he restructures to only receive vet league minimum? He took a pay cut last season w/out recouping any of the money lost in a bonus or what not. Him taking another could happen again, but I just can't help but think that kubiak will not move on from him & allow the others opportunities to step up.
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If he signs for vet minimum, I don't mind keeping him around. Even then, I would be worried that he keeps them from upgrading the position entirely.
I don't mind keeping him either, but he's not a WR. He's a smallish TE. That's how I'd use him.

Two WR sets would include WRs not named Walter. Three wide receiver sets would not include 83. He'll make his money trying to keep OD or Graham off the field.
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If he signs for vet minimum, I don't mind keeping him around. Even then, I would be worried that he keeps them from upgrading the position entirely.
What would be the vet minimum for Walter? If around 1.5 I would agree.
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Yes. You will get no arguement from me. I wont make excuses for him anylonger.
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I was hoping Jean or Posey would eventually move into to 2nd wr position.......Posey is out....Jean.....I dont know know what the deal is with him. I thought this was supposed to be the year he made a big splash coming off injury last year. Nothing much happened.
Think they are going to have to draft or pickup 1 or 2 wrs again this year.....Doubt Posey ever gets back to where he was ....those achillles tears are brutal.
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I was hoping Jean or Posey would eventually move into to 2nd wr position.......Posey is out....Jean.....I dont know know what the deal is with him. I thought this was supposed to be the year he made a big splash coming off injury last year. Nothing much happened.
Think they are going to have to draft or pickup 1 or 2 wrs again this year.....Doubt Posey ever gets back to where he was ....those achillles tears are brutal.
WHEN the ball was thrown Jeans way he looked good, but he hasnt exactly played very much and when he did you could almost always count on it being a run.
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WHEN the ball was thrown Jeans way he looked good, but he hasnt exactly played very much and when he did you could almost always count on it being a run.
Jean and the rookies were too inconsistent, especially Martin and Jean.
In the off-season, I'll bring this job again to recount tbe plays where it happened.
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Jean and the rookies were too inconsistent, especially Martin and Jean.
In the off-season, I'll bring this job again to recount tbe plays where it happened.
Saw jean drop a few but also saw him makes some really good tough catches as well. Still a young player but i still see potential
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I love Andre, but he can't be our #1 going into next season. We need someone now who can feasibly be better than Andre. Posey's Achilles pretty much takes him out of that equation.

We need to draft a WR who could conceivably a #1 on other teams & let him compete, on the field, for that position..... a Torey Smith to Anquan Bolden, or a Julio Jones to Roddy White.

I know we're not going to replace Andre in one season, but the point is we can't be targeting WRs to take Walter's spot. Walter is done as a WR inmo, Andre clearly has that spot. We need to fill #1, #3, & #4...... I think we've got good candidates for 3 & 4 already on the team, we need someone better than all of them.
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Good points, but Walter isn't a #2, he only plays one on TV...
I'm not a number 2 receiver but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.


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