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Old 01-13-2013   #1
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First of all, Schaub has been exposed. He can't consistently make plays or even be expected to start a game on point. He is holding this offense back tremendously with his physical limitations and honestly his decision making.

Wade Phillips needs to adapt or get fired. Welker and Hernandez killed man coverage in the regular season matchup and what do we do today, more man coverage. News flash Wade, you can't use that much man coverage against the Pats. It was clear in the regular season and its even clearer now. What's up with us putting an ILB out on running backs when they line up out wide as receivers? They recognize it and get huge plays every single time. Wade did a horrible job preparing for this game and then adjusting to the game as it went on. Our secondary is not comprised of bad players, we should have been able to hold them to alot less in the passing game.

We need to take a hard look at both Schaub and Wade in the offseason.
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Wade's defense was fantastic last season and for the first half this season. All the injuries have decimated the entire unit. To even think about firing him is crazy. We suffered through some awful years of non-existant D and people are upset after 6 or 7 games where they weren't elite?
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I think we've seen the best of wade's defenses....some glaring things have popped out...lb's on wr's continously...no real adjustments out at the half either...this is the exact same way his defenses have faired everywhere he's been..
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I think we've seen the best of wade's defenses....some glaring things have popped out...lb's on wr's continously...no real adjustments out at the half either...this is the exact same way his defenses have faired everywhere he's been..
I saw a LB defend a pass against WRs in the Washington game, the ravens game, & the Falcons game.

Those LBs could do it.... ours can't. Lbs on WRs isn't anything new. I'm most impressed about Brian Urlacher because of his ability to drop deep into coverage & defend WRs. Well, when he was younger.
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Wade's defense was fantastic last season and for the first half this season. All the injuries have decimated the entire unit. To even think about firing him is crazy. We suffered through some awful years of non-existant D and people are upset after 6 or 7 games where they weren't elite?
You think Cushing could have helped us covering Hernandez and Welker in man coverage? No, he can't. Yes, we missed Cushing. Would we have won this game with him or contained Welker and Hernandez more? No. The problem was gameplan and it was clear as day. I don't care how well Wade's defense does against mediocre offenses. I care if he can slow down the elite offenses, and his gameplan was horrible today and will never beat the pats even if we have 3 probowl cornerbacks.
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Wade is solid. Schaub sucks. Niners 41 pats 34. Ravens 38 broncos 35. You blame their DCs for the point ts t. this league you gotta score points on offense
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Wade is solid. Schaub sucks. Niners 41 pats 34. Ravens 38 broncos 35. You blame their DCs for the point ts t. this league you gotta score points on offense
Did you watch the game? You don't sit back and look at points at the end of the game. You determine how the opponent's offense was so successful against you, especially in the red zone. The answer was the gameplan. Man coverage nearly all game and poor matchups created by the defensive gameplan. If you can't see that, and go to an argument regarding other teams and other games and points scored, you don't know what your talking about or you didn't watch the game. Simple as that.
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Welker was open too....
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Did you watch the game? You don't sit back and look at points at the end of the game. You determine how the opponent's offense was so successful against you, especially in the red zone. The answer was the gameplan. Man coverage nearly all game and poor matchups created by the defensive gameplan. If you can't see that, and go to an argument regarding other teams and other games and points scored, you don't know what your talking about or you didn't watch the game. Simple as that.
or you could look at how schaub has been unsuccesful in the red zone forever? gameplan an average qb vs a hall of famer. or you could look forward to schaub as your qb next year and some ol crap in playoffs. schaub sucks bro, suck it. our window is closed so long as hes our qb
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Wade is solid. Schaub sucks. Niners 41 pats 34. Ravens 38 broncos 35. You blame their DCs for the point ts t. this league you gotta score points on offense
Anytime a defense gives up 30 pts or more its a failure dude. Both times we've faced the patriots we've given that up....wade's better than what we've had, but he's got his issues...
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Anytime a defense gives up 30 pts or more its a failure dude. Both times we've faced the patriots we've given that up....wade's better than what we've had, but he's got his issues...
Granted. Now accept that if the offense would actually score points and eat clock this shortcoming would be mitigated. The point is that the Patriots offense is so good that even great defenses fail. When that happens offenses have to step up. It's not like the Patriots have this incredible defense. They're not 85 Bears or some ****. Teams score on them.

Just not us. Not when the outcome is in doubt. If Wade has to be worried about the game passing him by then Gary needs to get the **** out of town because the game left his sorry FG kicking predictable play calling ass behind in the middle of the last decade.
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Wade is solid. Schaub sucks. Niners 41 pats 34. Ravens 38 broncos 35. You blame their DCs for the point ts t. this league you gotta score points on offense
Agreed, that was a big theme this weekend.
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I don't think anyone wants to let Wade go... At least I hope not. But if you can't see how bad Wade's defense is against spread offenses, then your not watching very close. New England, Green Bay, and New Orleans score on everyone but you would hope our defense could slow them down a little
instead they score higher than normal when playing us. Wade needs to adapt.

As for Schaub... He played scared and we need a replacement. The sooner the better.
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i overestimated this defense. i thought it would be good enough to stand on it's i own despite a struggling offense like the 2009-2010 jets but that's not the case. they look mediocre against above average qb's.


at this point we should just restart and rebuild the offense and it starts with schaub.
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Time of possession. Period.
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Time of possession. Period.
We did win the TOP. Plus this is overrated. TOP means little when you go against a team that runs no-huddle like the Patriots where everything happens so fast your darn defense can't even line up.
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I like Wade. His defenses get burned against elite QBs but he completely turned our defense around last year and he deserves another year or two.

Schaub has been sucking lately. I don't care how good a team is, you can't have a physical weakling at the most important position. I can only imagine what our team would look like with a big physical threat right there that can fire a long ball and run too. I don't think Schaub is a good leader. He's just an unathletic bald fart who inspires absolutely no passion into the other players. If there's a good chance to get another QB this year then we should definitely jump on it. If not, give him ONE more year.
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I like Wade. His defenses get burned against elite QBs but he completely turned our defense around last year and he deserves another year or two.

Schaub has been sucking lately. I don't care how good a team is, you can't have a physical weakling at the most important position. I can only imagine what our team would look like with a big physical threat right there that can fire a long ball and run too. I don't think Schaub is a good leader. He's just an unathletic bald fart who inspires absolutely no passion into the other players. If there's a good chance to get another QB this year then we should definitely jump on it. If not, give him ONE more year.
Schaub looked good when we put some receivers on the field. It should be obvious that our problem was that we waited too long to put those receivers on the field. We were stymied most of the first half & when we put those receivers on the field, we scored twice in like 4 minutes or something.

That worked, the other stuff didn't.

We should have started the second half the same way, but didn't. We didn't put the receivers back out until middle to late 4th qtr.

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Just awful awful rationale in this thread...
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In case people haven't noticed this is an offensive league these days.

Not many defenses these days are going to consistently hold opposing offenses to 21 or fewer.

You either get with it or get lost. If you can't throw up 35+ against some of these good teams then you're just going to get left behind.

This isnt your grandpappy's NFL.

Offenses that can't spark it up in big games against good teams are going the way of the dodo.

Schaub is a dinosaur.
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