ESPN First Take on Texans vs Patriots, Dan Shaughnessy Article

[Jules Winnfield]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQsycH47aXE


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[Yankee_In_TX]

video fail

Let me guess, Skip hated on Houston?

[Jules Winnfield]

Originally Posted by Yankee_In_TX

video fail

Let me guess, Skip hated on Houston?

you cant post youtube vids on here?

skip was actually said it would be a close game while stephen a agreed 100% with the article and crushed matt schaub.

[Playoffs]

Who cares what the reality TV fools think?

[BigB0iFresh]

First Take has gone down the drain. SAS yelling and Skip saying stuff for shock value

[Carr Bombed]

Can somebody post what they actually said, because I can't play youtube vids right now?

[Thorn]

So what? What the fools at ESPN or NFLN say, or what we say here, doesn't matter except to the person saying it. They players will play the game in the mood they are in despite what is said about them before hand.

[silentassassin]

I hope no one here actually takes that show seriously.

[Scooter]

people actually watch that show?

[Jules Winnfield]

Originally Posted by Thorn

So what? What the fools at ESPN or NFLN say, or what we say here, doesn't matter except to the person saying it. They players will play the game in the mood they are in despite what is said about them before hand.

if people didnt care they wouldnt be on TV.

fact of the matter is, Firsttake is a very popular nationally televised sports opinion show despite how many people claim they hate this show or how much people try to trivialize the show.

NFL players despite how freakishly huge they are, still are humans and they watch and listen to everything that is said about them.

to pretend otherwise is just naive.

They play sports for a living FFS. If regular people watch that show, how much more people who are talked about and play sports for a living?

[Thorn]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

if people didnt care they wouldnt be on TV.

fact of the matter is, Firsttake is a very popular nationally televised sports opinion show despite how many people claim they hate this show or how much people try to trivialize the show.

NFL players despite how freakishly huge they are, still are humans and they watch and listen to everything that is said about them.

to pretend otherwise is just naive.

They play sports for a living FFS. If regular people watch that show, how much more people who are talked about and play sports for a living?

Well then you can call me naive, because I don't watch ESPN at all except when the Texans play on Monday night football. If the Texans didn't have the bad luck of being scheduled for those ridiculous nights my TV would never be on ESPN.

[ChampionTexan]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

if people didnt care they wouldnt be on TV.

fact of the matter is, Firsttake is a very popular nationally televised sports opinion show despite how many people claim they hate this show or how much people try to trivialize the show.

NFL players despite how freakishly huge they are, still are humans and they watch and listen to everything that is said about them.

to pretend otherwise is just naive.

They play sports for a living FFS. If regular people watch that show, how much more people who are talked about and play sports for a living?

I stand in awe of your brilliance Mr. Winnfield (the bolded sentence on it's own has convinced me that everything you say is spot-on).

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by Carr Bombed

Can somebody post what they actually said, because I can't play youtube vids right now?

I can't post the video, but I did take a screenshot of it:

[Surreal McCoy]

Originally Posted by ChampionTexan

I stand in awe of your brilliance Mr. Winnfield (the bolded sentence on it's own has convinced me that everything you say is spot-on).

It's not even a sentence fragment. It's...hmm...maybe it'll make more sense if I'm drunk. Really drunk

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

if people didnt care they wouldnt be on TV.

fact of the matter is, Firsttake is a very popular nationally televised sports opinion show despite how many people claim they hate this show or how much people try to trivialize the show.

NFL players despite how freakishly huge they are, still are humans and they watch and listen to everything that is said about them.

to pretend otherwise is just naive.

They play sports for a living FFS. If regular people watch that show, how much more people who are talked about and play sports for a living?

They're on TV because they get a good paycheck out of it.
Stephen A. is out of his element unless he's talking about the NBA. He pretty much stays on top of basketball and lots of contacts in that area. Football, not so much. And Skip Bayless is there pretty much to "stir the pot". He generally takes whatever stance causes the most controversy. If you're going to listen to anyone on ESPN, listen to Jaws. At least he breaks down film and has played the position.

First Take is fluff.

Edit: Skip and Stephen A. were just making noise but Mangini made sense....
Eric Mangini basically said that the Shaunessy article shouldn't be necessary to provide incentive for the players. Everyone knows it's win or go home during the playoffs so they don't need bulletin board material for "inspiration". He also said, Foster needs to have a good game because an effective running attack will keep Tom Brady on the sidelines. Lastly, Mangini said that Belichick will remind his troops of how the Jets knocked them out of the playoffs a couple of years ago although the Pats had beaten them, in Foxboroigh, 45-zip earlier in that season. So don't get cocky and overconfident and take the Texans lightly.

First Take is still fluff though.
Although the host was a cutie.

[fiasco west]

Originally Posted by ObsiWan

They're on TV because they get a good paycheck out of it.
Stephen A. is out of his element unless he's talking about the NBA. He pretty much stays on top of basketball and lots of contacts in that area. Football, not so much. And Skip Bayless is there pretty much to "stir the pot". He generally takes whatever stance causes the most controversy. If you're going to listen to anyone on ESPN, listen to Jaws. At least he breaks down film and has played the position.

First Take is fluff.

Edit: Skip and Stephen A. were just making noise but Mangini made sense....
Eric Mangini basically said that the Shaunessy article shouldn't be necessary to provide incentive for the players. Everyone knows it's win or go home during the playoffs so they don't need bulletin board material for "inspiration". He also said, Foster needs to have a good game because an effective running attack will keep Tom Brady on the sidelines. Lastly, Mangini said that Belichick will remind his troops of how the Jets knocked them out of the playoffs a couple of years ago although the Pats had beaten them, in Foxboroigh, 45-zip earlier in that season. So don't get cocky and overconfident and take the Texans lightly.

First Take is still fluff though.
Although the host was a cutie.

Yep. Stephen A actually gets things right on NBA more times than not.

With that said I always take any of the ESPN journalists (the ones that were not ex-players) as personalities and just guys that have their own opinion on things.

Also, the one thing I like about Stephen A AND Skip is that if they have an athlete on the show they will not shy away from asking those guys anything. Stephen A always does great interviews, I remember on his show he always got some really personal stuff out of them.

Their on-screen personalities and over-exaggerated opinions can be annoying.

[Jules Winnfield]

Originally Posted by ObsiWan

They're on TV because they get a good paycheck out of it.
Stephen A. is out of his element unless he's talking about the NBA. He pretty much stays on top of basketball and lots of contacts in that area. Football, not so much. And Skip Bayless is there pretty much to "stir the pot". He generally takes whatever stance causes the most controversy. If you're going to listen to anyone on ESPN, listen to Jaws. At least he breaks down film and has played the position.

First Take is fluff.

Edit: Skip and Stephen A. were just making noise but Mangini made sense....
Eric Mangini basically said that the Shaunessy article shouldn't be necessary to provide incentive for the players. Everyone knows it's win or go home during the playoffs so they don't need bulletin board material for "inspiration". He also said, Foster needs to have a good game because an effective running attack will keep Tom Brady on the sidelines. Lastly, Mangini said that Belichick will remind his troops of how the Jets knocked them out of the playoffs a couple of years ago although the Pats had beaten them, in Foxboroigh, 45-zip earlier in that season. So don't get cocky and overconfident and take the Texans lightly.

First Take is still fluff though.
Although the host was a cutie.

its not that hard to talk abouut sports. but considering stephen a smith gets paid a couple of mill to talk sports, id say he is doing very well for a guy out of his "element."

I dont care how much you people want to trivialize First Take and claim how much you hate and how much skip and sas suck, they make for great entertaining discussion and they get paid handsomely to do it for a reason and why you dont.

[Carr Bombed]

Originally Posted by BigB0iFresh

First Take has gone down the drain. SAS yelling and Skip saying stuff for shock value

Yep, Skip officially jumped the shark with his "I would've left RGIII in the game, because he needs to learn how to play injured" argument. It was by far one of the dumbest things I ever heard anyone say on TV and I'm not just talking about sports either. He needs to go sit in the corner with Rob Parker.

[BetaV1]

What's amazing is that it feels like a vast majority of this forum also would agree with Skip and Stephen, as well as this fish wrap writer up in Boston.

Keep talking. Anyone who has ever played football will tell you the Texans want to play this game right now if they could. Sunday can't come soon enough for these guys.

[Dread-Head]

1. N.E's FIRST possession of the game run into Brady at full speed and ring his bell even if he HAS thrown the ball already. If you see Brady's back up warming up...YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB!

2. accept the fact that in this game you will sacrifice a game check...and not GIVE A I$HT!

3. Hit muff-huggas so hard they p:ss blood for a week and watch the Superbowl from home still applying ice packs.

4. With each possession remember that the Pats, refs and MEDIA think they're in for a cake walk...let it be known that "CAKE" has been in a deep freeze since the last game and go upside their heads with it.


5. This isn't a "prize fight" it's a street fight. Let the refs and league 3itch at you about how "unsportsmanlike" you were and how "dirty" you played and the fines to be levied against you as they're discussing how "Sad" it is that Brady and the Pats won't go to the AFC title game.

6. PLAY 4 quarters of solid smash mouth football and pound your opponent into a fine paste...then grind that paste beneath your heel after you take a whiz in it.