Saturday is a Referendum of Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak's Careers Here in Houston

[Jules Winnfield]

This it.

This is what Matt Schaub has been waiting for. This is what Gary Kubiak has been waiting for. This is what the haters have been waiting for. This is what the loyal fans bless yalls hearts have been waiting for.

All the ugly criticisms of their careers have been brought up these past few weeks. From Schaub never played in a playoff game, cant win a big game, Kubiak's conservative nature, no confidence, this that all the negative crap about them... They have a chance to prove a lot of people wrong. They also have a chance to prove a lot of people right.

This is the biggest game in franchise history.

Not some meaningless out of division middle of the season over hyped game vs New England. I never quite understood that. Why would they call that the biggest in history? And they even augmented that situation by using letterman jackets and proceeded to get thumped like high schoolers.

I say both because they are tied to each other. They are the loyal President and embattled field general. No Kubiak in houston means no Schaub in Houston. This is their movie and they have to finish it. Management has made their bed and now they have sleep in it. They will ride and die with kubiak and schaub.

Nobody expects us to beat Tom Brady in New England.

That's ok.

What's not ok is another tank job against a Bengal team that we can beat. We have our flaws ( right offensive line, injuries, joe marciano, play calling, schaub) but we are still 12-4. We are division champions. We have talent. We have 8 pro bowlers.

I hope this game gives everyone involved from the front office, the media, the fans whether you are pro or against kubiak and schaub....

some sense of closure and finality. Whether we continue in this path or we start the process of making change.

[C Madd]

I just hope Schaub is the one carrying a wallet that says Bad Mother ****er during the playoffs this year.

[Showtime100]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

This is the biggest game in franchise history.

Aah rats. I thought we had a shot until you said that.

(kidding, but...well......let's just say I was kidding )

I see the join date, welcome to the board! Be prepared for some vile posts shot in every direction on the GameDay thread come Saturday...lol

[Norg]

cant wait to know all there is to know about this team

u think if schaub plays bad we start looking for a new QB this off season ..????

[Premier]

Originally Posted by Norg

cant wait to know all there is to know about this team

u think if schaub plays bad we start looking for a new QB this off season ..????

if this were guaranteed, i would prefer this actually over beating the bengals then inevitably getting slaughtered in foxborough only to go through all this again next year..

[Surreal McCoy]

Originally Posted by Premier

if this were guaranteed, i would prefer this actually over beating the bengals then inevitably getting slaughtered in foxborough only to go through all this again next year..

And yet another Texan fan hoping we lose. FFS

[Runner]

I couldn't disagree more. All the statement games, biggest games in team history, referendums on Kubiak, etc, have been played before. The last time the Texans ended a regular season in such disappointing fashion Mcnair extended Kubiak because he was "on the right track", and he was doubly sure about it because the other owners told him so. It was assured that continuing to follow the right path would result in a juggernaut in two or three years.

Well, two or three years later not much has changed. The Kubiak led Texans still blow the big games (for home field advantage this time), but they were Incrementally closer again. In two or three more years it is assured Kubiak will have this thing figured out, and the Texans will be a juggernaut. Right? Right?

I don't think the Bengals game means a thing to Kubiak's future here.

[Premier]

Originally Posted by Surreal McCoy

And yet another Texan fan hoping we lose. FFS

where did i say i hope we lose, genius? i said if were going to lose i would prefer it be the 1st round and not the inevitble loss in the 2nd round because hopefully it would get the wheels churning on getting rid of schaub..

Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan

Sick of 12 win seasons and pro bowl QBs already?

12 win seasons? no.. ive been sick of mediocre skilled qbs who need shut down defenses to stumble into 12 wins in a patty cake division.. qbs who cant make a play once the system that built them breaks down... lol at the pro bowl, really, an all-star game?? FOH

[kiwitexansfan]

Originally Posted by Premier

if this were guaranteed, i would prefer this actually over beating the bengals then inevitably getting slaughtered in foxborough only to go through all this again next year..

Sick of 12 win seasons and pro bowl QBs already?

[Mr teX]

ehh..not likely. the most likely scenario is that we win, Schaub plays just "ok" and Kubiak doesn't stray too far from what he's been doing all year.

- People backing Schaub will use it as proof that he can take us to where we want to go.........................without considering all the variables involved..

Schaub haters will just wait until we play NE where everything says that we'll probably lose..Then they'll pounce......without considering all the variables involved.

& then we're right back to where we are now....so it's hardly a referendum..

[Surreal McCoy]

Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan

Sick of 12 win seasons and pro bowl QBs already?

Don't you know the 12 wins were a mirage and the Pro Bowl QB only got there because it's a popularity contest.

[Thorn]

Kubiak and Matt Schaub aren't going anywhere. They'll both be back next season. And then the Texans will try it all over again.

While I don't exactly like the situation, it's better to be a Texans fan than a fan of most teams in the NFL. We are built to make the playoffs for a while. Now we can piss and moan about the fact we might not get very far in the playoffs (which I will probably be doing with a lot of folks in here) but at least we are in the playoffs. That's a hell of a lot more than fans of some teams can say.

[2012Champs]

Originally Posted by Thorn

Kubiak and Matt Schaub aren't going anywhere. They'll both be back next season. And then the Texans will try it all over again.

This is 100% spot on. Im not sure if people are letting their emotion overtake them but Matt and Gary will both be back no matter what happens the rest of the season.

[Playoffs]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

a Referendum

So it's like an election, then? As long as it not th'....

nope, don't say it,

not the "thing"

do not,

no,

stop...

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

...the biggest game in franchise history.

Dun, Da, Dunnn.....

Arrrrrggghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Uncle Rico]

didnt we just have 2 of the very same games that the OP is talking about back to back?

[Jules Winnfield]

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

didnt we just have 2 of the very same games that the OP is talking about back to back?

matt schaub played back to back playoff games already?

[Uncle Rico]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

matt schaub played back to back playoff games already?

were they not as important?

[Jules Winnfield]

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

were they not as important?

smdh....

[Maddict5]

Originally Posted by Runner

Last year's regular season ending wasn't "disappointing" to me, given the serious injury issues with players such as Schaub and Dre.

As far as "twisting it so it's only a referendum if they lose", I believe I was clear that it wasn't a referendum at all, one way or the other:

"I don't think the Bengal's game means a thing to Kubiak's future here".

I would say my words were the ones twisted to meet an agenda, but since it sounds like you were looking for something from the "anti-Kubes/Schaub brigade" my post fit your needs. People also might note that I haven't blamed anything on Schaub this season, so I don't fit in that broad brush stroke either.

no you said it doesnt mean a thing.... cos he lost all those biggest games in franchise history.... in the reg season.... during that 12-4 season

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

were they not as important?

in the overall scheme of things... not rly. it wouldve been nice to get the bye but which will tell us more about schaub as our qb going forward- had he played awesome and we'd won v the vikes & colts (2 overachieving, middling non contenders imo) and then lost v NE with him playing crappy.. or if he played poor in the reg season and plays well in the playoffs? schaub's problems has never rly been those middling teams (which is why the severe doubts have emerged after those 2 disappointments) it been v the elite teams in the big stage

[bckey]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

This it.

This is what Matt Schaub has been waiting for. This is what Gary Kubiak has been waiting for. This is what the haters have been waiting for. This is what the loyal fans bless yalls hearts have been waiting for.

All the ugly criticisms of their careers have been brought up these past few weeks. From Schaub never played in a playoff game, cant win a big game, Kubiak's conservative nature, no confidence, this that all the negative crap about them... They have a chance to prove a lot of people wrong. They also have a chance to prove a lot of people right.

This is the biggest game in franchise history.

Not some meaningless out of division middle of the season over hyped game vs New England. I never quite understood that. Why would they call that the biggest in history? And they even augmented that situation by using letterman jackets and proceeded to get thumped like high schoolers.

I say both because they are tied to each other. They are the loyal President and embattled field general. No Kubiak in houston means no Schaub in Houston. This is their movie and they have to finish it. Management has made their bed and now they have sleep in it. They will ride and die with kubiak and schaub.

Nobody expects us to beat Tom Brady in New England.

That's ok.

What's not ok is another tank job against a Bengal team that we can beat. We have our flaws ( right offensive line, injuries, joe marciano, play calling, schaub) but we are still 12-4. We are division champions. We have talent. We have 8 pro bowlers.

I hope this game gives everyone involved from the front office, the media, the fans whether you are pro or against kubiak and schaub....

some sense of closure and finality. Whether we continue in this path or we start the process of making change.

Sorry but this is not it. This is not the biggest game in franchise history. Heck, they beat the Bengals in the 1st round last year at home with a 3rd string qb at the helm. Hype yourself into thinking this game is something. The Texans pi$$ed away home field, a bye week and the #1 seed. This game is like a consolation prize for the underachiever. When/If the Texans go to New England then that will be a big game. Heck the Texans made it to the 2nd round last year and played Baltimore tough to the end. They have to beat New England in New England to say they accomplished anything over last season other than record which is meaningless once the playoffs start.