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Old 12-12-2012   #1
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Default WTF is going on with Foster?

I haven't seen anyone post much about Foster's lackluster play, so I figured I'd bring up the subject.

It seems like he's succumbed to the big payday and just isn't performing up to his new contract. No one could bring down Foster with an ankle tackle for 2 years and now he can't seem to break one.

I know he's been run in a lot of short yardage situations, but he just doesn't to be the same back he was the last 2 years. WTF has happened?
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Default Re: WTF is going on with Foster?

well it could be either 2 things

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Hes not that good

or B

Leech Winston and Mike .B and Dreessen his blocking buddies.... are gone and now he cant do it without them


is there a option C ....????? LOL
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well it could be either 2 things

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Hes not that good

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Leech Winston and Mike .B and Dreessen his blocking buddies.... are gone and now he cant do it without them


is there a option C ....????? LOL
Option B gets invalidated, somewhat, by Tate and Forsett doing pretty dang well. Foster is getting tripped up yards past the LOS as well as near or behind it.
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Default Re: WTF is going on with Foster?

He doesn't look like the same back. I think he was averaging 3.9 a carry coming into the Patriots game. While tate and Forsett come into the game and look explosive as hell.
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He's a different back. That's for sure.
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He's a different back. That's for sure.
But not in a good way so far this season.
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Heh, well....I was one of only about three people calling attention to it from the beginning of the reg season.

I don't know if it's the diet, the new $$$, the lack of Winston and Brisiel, some sort of situation involving Tate....but he's shutting it down early in a lot of games.

He's also running more through the middle when his bread and butter is always the edge and then a cutback. Don't know if he's trying to prove (to himself?) that he can run anywhere ,even the middle, or what.

But it's been off all season. He might not have been a big fan of seeing Winston and Brisiel leave. Because he's not running as well, for sure.
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Default Re: WTF is going on with Foster?

Or he's getting used TOO much. Our run game is better when BOTH Foster and Tate get the ball. Too bad Tate's been in the dog house for being injured and Kubes isn't playing him. But hey good thing that 3rd down scat is delivering punishment to the D and softening them up for Arian huh?
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Heh, well....I was one of only about three people calling attention to it from the beginning of the reg season.

I don't know if it's the diet, the new $$$, the lack of Winston and Brisiel, some sort of situation involving Tate....but he's shutting it down early in a lot of games.

He's also running more through the middle when his bread and butter is always the edge and then a cutback. Don't know if he's trying to prove (to himself?) that he can run anywhere ,even the middle, or what.

But it's been off all season. He might not have been a big fan of seeing Winston and Brisiel leave. Because he's not running as well, for sure.
He should just get a side as a first read and be able to cut where he sees the lane. inside or outside just depends on the lane he sees. That looks OK to me. It's the shoestring tackles that are killing him. If he breaks one shoestrng ankle tackle, he's gone for 15+ yards on a lot of carries. It seems like shying away from contact and trying to take whats there and keep himself healthy, to me. PFF has called him out for the last 1 1/2 years on their elusivity stat. He's not elusive. It's just that he's now going ultra turtle, like Schaub, if pressure is even moderately applied. Maybe Kubiak is handing out death sentences for fumbles? I bet Tate would agree.
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Default Re: WTF is going on with Foster?

Look at his number of carries.

He has been run into the ground.

Tate and Forsett look like they have pop because they are FRESH.
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Default Re: WTF is going on with Foster?

As y'all can see, it only takes 2 plays to get the same numbers he did last year.

Good blocking = big gain

And defenders taking bad angles also help.
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Default Re: WTF is going on with Foster?

It's really simple.

I had listed several reasons at different times, I won't bother listing them again.

Instead, I will give some very basic numbers.

So far, Foster had played in 13 games (as many as he did the entire last year.)

He has 20 more caries, but he has 80 few yards.

A couple of simple queries using Play Finder at ProFootball Reference .com
Shows that he has 2 fewer plays of more than 20 yards (5 as opposed to 7).

The additional yardage gain on those 2 extra plays is 81 yards.

That's right there is the simplest answer.

Then I used Game Rewind to go back and watch those plays to verify them.

A question for you guys is how often did you hear an announcer call out a name of a blocker on our run plays?

Not very often, right?

Well, on those long plays, at least one or two guys were called out because of their blocking near the POA.

It's as simple as that, really.
I don't even need to recount the other factors and reasons.
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It's really simple.

I had listed several reasons at different times, I won't bother listing them again.

Instead, I will give some very basic numbers.

So far, Foster had played in 13 games (as many as he did the entire last year.)

He has 20 more caries, but he has 80 few yards.

A couple of simple queries using Play Finder at ProFootball Reference .com
Shows that he has 2 fewer plays of more than 20 yards (5 as opposed to 7).

The additional yardage gain on those 2 extra plays is 81 yards.

That's right there is the simplest answer.

Then I used Game Rewind to go back and watch those plays to verify them.

A question for you guys is how often did you hear an announcer call out a name of a blocker on our run plays?

Not very often, right?

Well, on those long plays, at least one or two guys were called out because of their blocking near the POA.

It's as simple as that, really.
I don't even need to recount the other factors and reasons.
Then I guess everything equals out because Schaub hasn't been destroyed as much and we don;t have near the false start/holding penalties as we did with Winston. I still don't miss that guy. Road grader of a run blocker and turnstile on pass pro.

Maybe Winston faking out a DE, making him think it was a pass play is the difference in Foster's yardage?
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Then I guess everything equals out because Schaub hasn't been destroyed as much and we don;t have near the false start/holding penalties as we did with Winston. I still don't miss that guy. Road grader of a run blocker and turnstile on pass pro.

Maybe Winston faking out a DE, making him think it was a pass play is the difference in Foster's yardage?
If we're going there, I miss Mario.
Yeah, he may have taken plays off, but the numbers were there..... if he were healthy.

I miss Demeco. Who better to have in the event Cushing got hurt?

I miss Dresson. We don't have enough TEs for this offense.

I miss Walter, Barwin, & Casey. I know they're still on the team, but I miss them just the same.
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Default Re: WTF is going on with Foster?

Didn't read the entire thread...

One of the biggest problems that I see with Arian this season is that he can't seem to be able to stay on his feet. No, I don't mean because he's being tackled. I see the guy trip, slip and fall AT LEAST 3 times a game in every single stadium that we play at. Don't know if it's cleats, balance, too much tape, or what--but it seems like every time he really cuts hard he looses his footing.

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It's really simple.

I had listed several reasons at different times, I won't bother listing them again.

Instead, I will give some very basic numbers.

So far, Foster had played in 13 games (as many as he did the entire last year.)

He has 20 more caries, but he has 80 few yards.

A couple of simple queries using Play Finder at ProFootball Reference .com
Shows that he has 2 fewer plays of more than 20 yards (5 as opposed to 7).

The additional yardage gain on those 2 extra plays is 81 yards.

That's right there is the simplest answer.

Then I used Game Rewind to go back and watch those plays to verify them.

A question for you guys is how often did you hear an announcer call out a name of a blocker on our run plays?

Not very often, right?

Well, on those long plays, at least one or two guys were called out because of their blocking near the POA.

It's as simple as that, really.
I don't even need to recount the other factors and reasons.
First off, he has 20 MORE carries with less yardage, thats a big problem.

Secondly, 2 runs of 20 or more yards in no world equals 81 yards, he could have had 2 21 yard runs, adding to his total carries and still not equal to the yards, thus keeping his YPC DOWN which is the problem posters are having. He still has stats and good amount of carries, but he is not taking full advantage of his opportunities.
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First off, he has 20 MORE carries with less yardage, thats a big problem.

Secondly, 2 runs of 20 or more yards in no world equals 81 yards, he could have had 2 21 yard runs, adding to his total carries and still not equal to the yards, thus keeping his YPC DOWN which is the problem posters are having. He still has stats and good amount of carries, but he is not taking full advantage of his opportunities.
Last year he had 7 plays of 20 yards Or MORE.
He had only 5 this year.

The extra 2 Big Plays netted him the extra 81 yards.
Go check it.
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First off, he has 20 MORE carries with less yardage, thats a big problem.

Secondly, 2 runs of 20 or more yards in no world equals 81 yards, he could have had 2 21 yard runs, adding to his total carries and still not equal to the yards, thus keeping his YPC DOWN which is the problem posters are having. He still has stats and good amount of carries, but he is not taking full advantage of his opportunities.
The extra carries are the carries in short yardage and turtle mode.

More importantly, aren't you among those who are concerned about the right side of the line and missing Dreessen?
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In fact, I have a strong case that Foster is having a "better" year despite the subpar blocking as compared to last year.
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Foster is currently 6th in the league in rushing, but he is only 118 yards away from being 1st in yards.

He leads the league in rushing TD's.

I'm not seeing this whole "Foster is slowing down" thing. He is at the top of the league in all important stats for a RB other then YPC. I have felt like Kubes has run him way to much in a lot of games considering all of our other guys being available. Forsett has been more then capable of gaining yards.
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