Brandon Harris - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

CretorFrigg · 12-10-2012

Now McCain doesn't seem so bad anymore...

What a scrub. No wonder he wasn't getting any playing time. I'm dedicating this thread to him.

Tailgate · 12-10-2012

No wonder we were "bringing him along slowly".

Mr. Texan · 12-10-2012

hurry up and put rout out there

**hradhak** · 12-10-2012

Part of me wishes that he got more NB reps earlier in the season when we didn't need him. I think to some extent you gotta bring these guys on slowly, but until they get reps there's no way to get em good.

Because of his draft status, he's on this team, so may as well get him reps cuz God knows when he'll get him in the game.

To be fair, I think the TD, he wasn't the primary coverage, Demps was. But that hold early in the game was terrible.

TexanBacker93 · 12-11-2012

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Originally Posted by hradhak

Part of me wishes that he got more NB reps earlier in the season when we didn't need him. I think to some extent you gotta bring these guys on slowly, but until they get reps there's no way to get em good.

Because of his draft status, he's on this team, so may as well get him reps cuz God knows when he'll get him in the game.

To be fair, I think the TD, he wasn't the primary coverage, Demps was. But that hold early in the game was terrible.

Precisely. It's tough getting your most playing time in your 2 years against Tom freakin' Brady.

As for him being horrible....

Jackson was pretty bad for a couple of years and has definitely improved so I'm a believer that Harris could still be good. He just needs to see the field a little. It's tough, though, to have him active if he isn't a good ST player in those games where you need your 4th CB to play on ST.

I hate the stupid rule forcing teams to make players inactive even if they are perfectly healthy.

thunderkyss · 12-11-2012

I'm watching the game again.

Just saw the Dante Stallworth TD. I know this is one of the plays cited demonstrating how poor this guy's coverage is. Granted, a corner back should be able to see when a receiver looks up, eyes up, hands up..... then gain ground & get in position to prevent this catch.

However, Brady does a good job getting the ball ahead of the receiver, making it nigh impossible for a trailing CB to defend.

In this case, he was supposed to have safety help. I'm not saying that the TD is on the safety, a better corner could have done something to stop Stallworth from catching the ball. A good CB realizing he doesn't have any help would have gone for the tackle than the feign attempt to strip the ball.

But two points I wanted to make. That wasn't all on Harris & Wade isn't so stubborn that he plays man up all the time. There is usually a safety back there, at least one. This time, it was Demps.

You can see Demps just inside the line of gain. When the ball is snaped, he doesn't drop. He inches forward. Don't know why. There was no fake run. Both CBs Jackson & Harris fall to a trail position. What do you think they were thinking when they saw Demps standing flat footed.

WTF is what I'd be thinking. If he'd have dropped (I can't imagine Wade calling for him to not be the deepest defender on the field) Brady might not have thrown that ball.

fiasco west · 12-10-2012

Now we know why he does not play much.

DocBar · 12-10-2012

Harris will be fine. I'd rather see him a bit over-physical now and learn to tone it down(and play a team without the refs in their back pocket). The refs are very culpable in the scoring disparity. That was a bull**** game as far as reffing goes.

Hervoyel · 12-10-2012

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Originally Posted by DocBar

Harris will be fine. I'd rather see him a bit over-physical now and learn to tone it down(and play a team without the refs in their back pocket). The refs are very culpable in the scoring disparity. That was a bull**** game as far as reffing goes.

Are you kidding me? He's not over-physical, he's completely lost out there half the time and grabbing guys just to keep from being blown up completely.

Harris is about as bad a corner as I've seen the Texans run out there and I'm kind of surprised he's still with the team. I guess they're reluctant to kick a second rounder to the curb so soon. We're lucky he wasn't taken in the first or he'd be starting I guess.

Bigbots_02 · 12-10-2012

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Originally Posted by DocBar

Harris will be fine. I'd rather see him a bit over-physical now and learn to tone it down(and play a team without the refs in their back pocket). The refs are very culpable in the scoring disparity. That was a bull**** game as far as reffing goes.

Agreed

thunderkyss · 12-10-2012

Put me down on Harris side. I still like what I see.

CretorFrigg · 12-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Tailgate

No wonder we were "bringing him along slowly".

Seriously. You'd expect more from a 2nd round pick. Didn't we trade up to get him?

DocBar · 12-10-2012

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Originally Posted by CretorFrigg

Seriously. You'd expect more from a 2nd round pick. Didn't we trade up to get him?

He's looked better, in two games than KJ looked in his first 16 games. I find it hard to fault aggressiveness in young players. They will learn the intricacies over time. Besides, the refs sucked so hard it should be scandelous.

TexanSam · 12-10-2012

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Originally Posted by DocBar

He's looked better, in two games than KJ looked in his first 16 games. I find it hard to fault aggressiveness in young players. They will learn the intricacies over time. Besides, the refs sucked so hard it should be scandelous.

I thought so too. Not that that says much since a wounded horse could play better than KJ did as a rookie, but Harris looked okay at times. He stayed with his man...he just doesn't know how to turn around.

**hradhak** · 12-10-2012

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Originally Posted by TexanSam

I thought so too. Not that that says much since a wounded horse could play better than KJ did as a rookie, but Harris looked okay at times. He stayed with his man...he just doesn't know how to turn around.

At some point he has gotta get reps. I'm disappointed that he hasn't done so, and when a big game comes along he's thrown in there.

How long were you going to keep him out? KJ has finally shown that he gets it. He may not be great, but he has made plays. Harris needs time and reps before we say he is a wash.

BullNation4Life · 12-10-2012

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Originally Posted by DocBar

He's looked better, in two games than KJ looked in his first 16 games.

that bar isn't set very high, well unless you are an ant, then the bar is very high...

Sorry but Harris looks absolutely lost...

Rey · 12-10-2012

I thought Harris was ok. Yeah he got beat..so did everyone else out there...

Brisco_County · 12-10-2012

The key weakness in the defense tonight was not Brandon Harris.

TheMatrix31 · 12-10-2012

I hope this mother****er never sees a football field again. At least in our uniform. Leave that guy in Massachusetts.

12-10-2012	#1
CretorFrigg Win. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Texas Age: 31 Posts: 2,395 Rep Power: 13905	Brandon Harris Now McCain doesn't seem so bad anymore... What a scrub. No wonder he wasn't getting any playing time. I'm dedicating this thread to him. __________________

12-10-2012	#2
Tailgate Fall of Hame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX - Born and raised Age: 35 Posts: 2,685 Rep Power: 8909	Re: Brandon Harris No wonder we were "bringing him along slowly".

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Mr. Texan I'm A Texan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,682 Rep Power: 5365	Re: Brandon Harris hurry up and put rout out there

12-10-2012	#4
hradhak Site Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,279 Rep Power: 1733	Re: Brandon Harris Part of me wishes that he got more NB reps earlier in the season when we didn't need him. I think to some extent you gotta bring these guys on slowly, but until they get reps there's no way to get em good. Because of his draft status, he's on this team, so may as well get him reps cuz God knows when he'll get him in the game. To be fair, I think the TD, he wasn't the primary coverage, Demps was. But that hold early in the game was terrible.

12-11-2012	#6
thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 25,756 Rep Power: 51540	Re: Brandon Harris I'm watching the game again. Just saw the Dante Stallworth TD. I know this is one of the plays cited demonstrating how poor this guy's coverage is. Granted, a corner back should be able to see when a receiver looks up, eyes up, hands up..... then gain ground & get in position to prevent this catch. However, Brady does a good job getting the ball ahead of the receiver, making it nigh impossible for a trailing CB to defend. In this case, he was supposed to have safety help. I'm not saying that the TD is on the safety, a better corner could have done something to stop Stallworth from catching the ball. A good CB realizing he doesn't have any help would have gone for the tackle than the feign attempt to strip the ball. But two points I wanted to make. That wasn't all on Harris & Wade isn't so stubborn that he plays man up all the time. There is usually a safety back there, at least one. This time, it was Demps. You can see Demps just inside the line of gain. When the ball is snaped, he doesn't drop. He inches forward. Don't know why. There was no fake run. Both CBs Jackson & Harris fall to a trail position. What do you think they were thinking when they saw Demps standing flat footed. WTF is what I'd be thinking. If he'd have dropped (I can't imagine Wade calling for him to not be the deepest defender on the field) Brady might not have thrown that ball. __________________ I swear it's for real this time!

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fiasco west Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,770 Rep Power: 3968	Re: Brandon Harris Now we know why he does not play much.

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DocBar Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I'm international Section: Channel 700-ish on NFL Sunday Ticket Age: 43 Posts: 7,229 Rep Power: 17539	Re: Brandon Harris Harris will be fine. I'd rather see him a bit over-physical now and learn to tone it down(and play a team without the refs in their back pocket). The refs are very culpable in the scoring disparity. That was a bull**** game as far as reffing goes. __________________ “If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.” Halton Arp

12-10-2012	#11
thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 25,756 Rep Power: 51540	Re: Brandon Harris Put me down on Harris side. I still like what I see. __________________ I swear it's for real this time!

12-10-2012	#17
Rey Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,732 Rep Power: 47019	I thought Harris was ok. Yeah he got beat..so did everyone else out there...

12-10-2012	#18
Brisco_County Texans worthy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 1,745 Rep Power: 11749	Re: Brandon Harris The key weakness in the defense tonight was not Brandon Harris.

12-10-2012	#19
TheMatrix31 Take A Bow Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: California Posts: 6,008 Rep Power: 12949	Re: Brandon Harris I hope this mother****er never sees a football field again. At least in our uniform. Leave that guy in Massachusetts.

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