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Old 11-23-2012   #1
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From AdvancedNFLStats.com, I compare some of Watt's stats agains other DEs (including 4-3 DE) and many of his numbers are simply ridiculous.

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/defenderstats.php?pos=DE

All-Pro, and Defensive MVP in the making.

Tackles: 44
The next guy is C Campbell (AZ) with 30

Sacks: 17 (they count 1/2 sack as full)
The next guy is Cameron Wake (Dolphins) with 10

Pass Batted Down: 13
That's equal to the next two guys COMBINED.

QB Hits: 30
The next guy is Wake again, with 21.
The third guy had 15

TFL: 24
Three guys tied for 2nd with 11 each

SIMPLY RIDIKULOUS!


I wonder if we can find the stats for QB Pressure somewhere.
I bet it will be crazy just the same.
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From AdvancedNFLStats.com, I compare some of Watt's stats agains other DEs (including 4-3 DE) and many of his numbers are simply ridiculous.

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/defenderstats.php?pos=DE

All-Pro, and Defensive MVP in the making.

Tackles: 44
The next guy is C Campbell (AZ) with 30

Sacks: 17 (they count 1/2 sack as full)
The next guy is Cameron Wake (Dolphins) with 10

Pass Batted Down: 13
That's equal to the next two guys COMBINED.

QB Hits: 30
The next guy is Wake again, with 21.
The third guy had 15

TFL: 24
Three guys tied for 2nd with 11 each

SIMPLY RIDIKULOUS!


I wonder if we can find the stats for QB Pressure somewhere.
I bet it will be crazy just the same.
I said it in another thread ....

JJ Watt for MVP
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Flat out sick #s. SICK.
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Also, they had a stat called EPA (Expected Points Added).
Basically it measures the overall efficiency.

Again, his numbers are bigger than the next two guys combined.

Basically, you need two DEs in the league to be able to replace him.
(The next two best, to be more specific.)

That's just CRAZY!
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For some Texans historical perspective. Our 3-4 DE who made the pro bowl:

Gary Walker 2002: 52 tackles, 6.5 sacks, 3 passes defensed, 1 forced fumble, 1 safety.

Watt is 6th in the NFL for passes defensed, 1 away from a tie for 3rd with the 5 guys above him all CB's.

What Watt is doing is epic.
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Watt is the reincarnation of Bob Lilly.

it's that simple.

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This is what you get from gifted specimen with good character and hard work.
Just wow!!!

Go JJ Watt!!!
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Dutch... we need a gif of Watt being penalized like crazy and his only response was a finger wag.

Complete class and awesomeness.
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I have all 11 Texans game archive in my PC and watch each game again. Focusing at Watt performances, I noticed their were many times where during his pass rush moves, he would let up and stop short on his way to the QB to make an attempt to knock down passes. Many of those were pump fakes and if Watt hadn't let up he would have been in a collision course to sack the QB.

If he wasn't so hell bent in knocking down passes, Strahan sack record would have been broken already. Like the Metallica's song, this guy is "Some Kind Of Monster"
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Yeah because QB's frequently spend the time to pump fake when they feel an imminent sack.

I'll trust Watt's judgment on whether he could get to the QB in time.

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Spot on other than Bob isn't dead.
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Watt is the reincarnation of Bob Lilly.

it's that simple.
Bob Lilly was a great player. But he never had a season like Watt is having. The only guy you could compare Watts season to is Reggie White. Who was also coached by Wade.
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Bob Lilly was a great player. But he never had a season like Watt is having. The only guy you could compare Watts season to is Reggie White. Who was also coached by Wade.
You know what's more absurd?

Reggie White collected 23.5 sacks in his first 2 years playing in 36 games.

Watt surpassed that in fewer games.

Anh here's the kicker.
White was playing in the USFL.
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Sack Leaders so far this season..

1. Aldon Smith 15 sacks
2. JJ Watt 14.5 sacks
3. Von Miller 13 sacks
4. DeMarcus Ware 10 sacks
5. Cameron Wake 9.5 sacks

Aldon Smith had 5.5 sacks against the Bears.

When you look at that list there is no way JJ Watt (A DE in a 3-4) fits there. He's just that good.
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Bob Lilly was a great player. But he never had a season like Watt is having. The only guy you could compare Watts season to is Reggie White. Who was also coached by Wade.
I was comparing playing style, attitude and demeanor rather than numbers.

Coincidentally, Lilly and Watt's first NFL scores both came on INT returns.
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For some Texans historical perspective. Our 3-4 DE who made the pro bowl:

Gary Walker 2002: 52 tackles, 6.5 sacks, 3 passes defensed, 1 forced fumble, 1 safety.

Watt is 6th in the NFL for passes defensed, 1 away from a tie for 3rd with the 5 guys above him all CB's.

What Watt is doing is epic.
Not to diminish or discount Watt's achievements, but even though he's playing mostly in a 3-4, his alignment is as a 1-gapper and not the more traditional 2-gap alignments run in most 3-4s including what Capers/Fangio ran when in Houston. And of course the single gap alignments allow the lineman a much better opportunity to get at the QB.
However Watt is all over the place on the defensive line and on the Thanksgiving day game in MoTown I observed him at the NT and also on the edge and in between those 2 positions at various times. And I would speculate in a traditional 4-3 1-gap alignment he'd be a DE, not a DT as most 3-4 DEs are in the 4-3.
But he's a tremendous player who has come out of nowhere to be among the top defensive lineman in the league.
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From AdvancedNFLStats.com, I compare some of Watt's stats agains other DEs (including 4-3 DE) and many of his numbers are simply ridiculous.

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/defenderstats.php?pos=DE

All-Pro, and Defensive MVP in the making.

Tackles: 44
The next guy is C Campbell (AZ) with 30

Sacks: 17 (they count 1/2 sack as full)
The next guy is Cameron Wake (Dolphins) with 10

Pass Batted Down: 13
That's equal to the next two guys COMBINED.

QB Hits: 30
The next guy is Wake again, with 21.
The third guy had 15

TFL: 24
Three guys tied for 2nd with 11 each

SIMPLY RIDIKULOUS!


I wonder if we can find the stats for QB Pressure somewhere.
I bet it will be crazy just the same.

I think the above is even more impressive when you factor in that he is a 3-4 DE and not a 4-3 DE (which I think allows you a better opportunity to get sacks, tackles behind the L.O.S.)
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that was a layup, but before I begin my argument which I've had with other friends, lets not forget it took Landry awhile to implement both his style & supporting cast around him. Lets just agree on a couple things here, one that both Tom & Gary are very classy individuals & treat everyone fair & equally. second, record wise Gary is 57-50 through 11th game in his 7th season of tenure as Houston Texans Head Coach. It took Landry 9 Full seasons to reach 56 wins. Third with hiring of Wade Phillips & growth of a young GM Rick Smith, who is secured, doesn't it seem that his supporting cast has evolved & developed nicely around him which is common to all great head coaches, just saying. We could be witnessing something truly great, yet not really fully appreciating how spectacular & great it really is in the moment. Lots of work to do of course, but sure seems like its coming together nicely
It's arguable that Landry was a nice guy.

In the NFLN production A Football Life: Tom Landry, the picture painted by former players and others in-the-know, is that Landry was often times cutting in his treatment of players, cold and distant, demanding to the point of being a perfectionist.

He could show signs of being "human," but 99% of the time the guy was as Bill Belichick as they come.

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Does anyone have a gif of him arguing with coach Kollar on the sidelines then hulking up for 2 more sacks in crunch time?
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Does anyone have a gif of him arguing with coach Kollar on the sidelines then hulking up for 2 more sacks in crunch time?
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