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Old 11-04-2012   #1
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I've noticed we haven't run that many this year. We were considered as one of the best teams at doing so in years past, so why not this year? Perhaps it's the defenses we've seen this year or maybe Kubes doesn't trust the new fellows on the right side quite yet? All I know is I would much rather see us try a screen to Foster instead of a draw play on 3rd and long that goes for next to nothing. Anybody else have any thoughts about this?
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Thought about this myself during the game today. The only thing I could come up with was remembering when I asked myself this question before and then Foster went all screen crazy for a while. I am sure it will be back sooner or later.

It also seems to me that when we do, we are focusing more on OD and Casey in these situations as opposed to a standard RB screen w Foster.
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every screen i have seen this season has been stopped for very little of a gain to a loss on the play. Dont know why its different this year.
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We have seen screens some on 3rd and long (when we don't run a draw) lol

We had some te screens to start the game a few weeks ago and gained some big yardage (if I recall)


Think it was against the jags
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every screen i have seen this season has been stopped for very little of a gain to a loss on the play. Dont know why its different this year.
Every screen I've seen this season has been on 3rd and long from deep within our own territory. Its the most obvious screen call and it rightfully gets stopped pretty quickly
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Screens aren't the type of play you can run just to run it. You let the defense dictate when it's a good time to run a screen.
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In a general sense, I get the feeling that opposing D's are watching for that after we had some real success with it last year. I think our coaches know it's just not available much right now. I've wondered sometimes this year when we would see Schaub roll out and throw back against the grain again, but he did it today. You have to catch the D not looking for these things or they don't work.
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I've noticed we haven't run that many this year. We were considered as one of the best teams at doing so in years past, so why not this year? Perhaps it's the defenses we've seen this year or maybe Kubes doesn't trust the new fellows on the right side quite yet? All I know is I would much rather see us try a screen to Foster instead of a draw play on 3rd and long that goes for next to nothing. Anybody else have any thoughts about this?
lots of people hanging around the box trying to take away the run (lots of gap discipline keeps lots of guys around the box) and teams are not blitzing us much out of fear for the play action. Hard to screen in that environment but that's why we get the wide open OD and Walter looks early in the year.
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lots of people hanging around the box trying to take away the run (lots of gap discipline keeps lots of guys around the box) and teams are not blitzing us much out of fear for the play action. Hard to screen in that environment but that's why we get the wide open OD and Walter looks early in the year.
Speaking of which, we totally blew a chance yesterday later in the game. I erased the game from my DVR, so I can't rewatch it, but we got the exact same thing that happened on the open play that OD scored a TD on. They didn't show it for long, because the pass ended up going to the left side, but whoever was down the middle heading to the right was WIDE open! It looked like a carbon copy of the OD touch down, so I'm assuming it was him. I was like, "holy hell man!". I guess Schaub just didn't see it in time. Would have taken it to the house. I wish I knew the time in the game for reference. Maybe 76Texan can pull it up or something. He's pretty good on that type of stuff.
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Speaking of which, we totally blew a chance yesterday later in the game. I erased the game from my DVR, so I can't rewatch it, but we got the exact same thing that happened on the open play that OD scored a TD on. They didn't show it for long, because the pass ended up going to the left side, but whoever was down the middle heading to the right was WIDE open! It looked like a carbon copy of the OD touch down, so I'm assuming it was him. I was like, "holy hell man!". I guess Schaub just didn't see it in time. Would have taken it to the house. I wish I knew the time in the game for reference. Maybe 76Texan can pull it up or something. He's pretty good on that type of stuff.
I think I remember that play. Schaub could have a few more TD passes this year on guys he either missed or threw balls that made guys change their strides.
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Maybe 76Texan can pull it up or something. He's pretty good on that type of stuff.
too bad his peepee got hurtz.
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I think I remember that play. Schaub could have a few more TD passes this year on guys he either missed or threw balls that made guys change their strides.

too bad his peepee got hurtz.
Is he not around anymore or something? I don't really pay that much attention.....LOL
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Is he not around anymore or something? I don't really pay that much attention.....LOL
He got bent over a mod moving his thead. It's been kinda funny, kinda sad. He's accusing us of wanting to ban him...that's the hilarious part.
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Is he not around anymore or something? I don't really pay that much attention.....LOL
I had stated in the film study thread that I will be on vacation but Vinny either didn't see it so he assumed the worst. I'm at Sam Rayburn lake where the internet is very spotty. Just to clarify things, I've always said that I don't hold a grudge. I say what I need to say and move on. It's amazing here in East Texas in the Fall but I can't wait to come back to Texans football.
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Speaking of which, we totally blew a chance yesterday later in the game. I erased the game from my DVR, so I can't rewatch it, but we got the exact same thing that happened on the open play that OD scored a TD on. They didn't show it for long, because the pass ended up going to the left side, but whoever was down the middle heading to the right was WIDE open! It looked like a carbon copy of the OD touch down, so I'm assuming it was him. I was like, "holy hell man!". I guess Schaub just didn't see it in time. Would have taken it to the house. I wish I knew the time in the game for reference. Maybe 76Texan can pull it up or something. He's pretty good on that type of stuff.
I know a place where you can rewatch it later....
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Speaking of which, we totally blew a chance yesterday later in the game. I erased the game from my DVR, so I can't rewatch it, but we got the exact same thing that happened on the open play that OD scored a TD on. They didn't show it for long, because the pass ended up going to the left side, but whoever was down the middle heading to the right was WIDE open! It looked like a carbon copy of the OD touch down, so I'm assuming it was him. I was like, "holy hell man!". I guess Schaub just didn't see it in time. Would have taken it to the house. I wish I knew the time in the game for reference. Maybe 76Texan can pull it up or something. He's pretty good on that type of stuff.
I went back and watched that play again on dvr and it served as another teaching moment in the offensive genius of Gary Kubiak.

The player in question Kevin Walter, but he really wasn't wide open (though he was open) until after it was obvious to every Bills defender that the pass was going to an uncovered OD down the right sideline, at which point they all went into OH CRAP panic scramble mode.

The Bills were completely owned by Kubes on that play. The Texans have run the bootleg misdirection with such effective consistency that when the entire offense moved hard to the strong side with Schaub bootlegging in the pocket, the Bills reacted by doubling both backcutting WRs (AJ and Walter) with safeties. Walter looked wide open on that play because he'd beaten his man coverage by a step or two, but as soon as that trailing CB saw Schaub stop and look down the right side, he broke off his coverage to help against the open TE running down the sideline. Too late, though, because the ball was on its way to OD and the Bills were all hopelessly trying to get over to the completely uncovered deep right zone.

It was just a brilliant play call by Kubiak and Co.
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