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Wow, looks like Jackson has come a long way since his rookie season. Pretty impressive.

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Wow, looks like Jackson has come a long way since his rookie season. Pretty impressive.

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Kareem actually did much better than the numbers indicate in the Broncos game.

Of the 5 medium-to-deep passes charged against him, only one was legitimate.
Two were in zones (the last one in the waning moment where the Texans only needed to keep everything in front of them) and two were the responsibility of the safeties.

So yeah, IMHO, KJ has been playing very well.
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We no longer have to pray to the football gods because Wade has descended from the great goalposts in the sky to resurrect our defense. From storm clouds of batted down passes to golden 6-picks of glory our defense will plow through the bewildered enemy offense like hyenas on baby gazelles. My friends, the the House of Pain has returned.
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Wow, looks like Jackson has come a long way since his rookie season. Pretty impressive.

http://www.battleredblog.com/2012/10...hutdown-corner
Yeah, it's funny how so many of our fans said he didn't have the talent to play in this league. Or that he wasn't worthy of a first round pick.

I understand he played poorly, but all rookies do, especially starting at #1 or #2 CB.
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Where is "Da truth Explodes"? He'll come in and argue that Kareem is terrible and should be flipping burgers at Burger King.
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Where is "Da truth Explodes"? He'll come in and argue that Kareem is terrible and should be flipping burgers at Burger King.
I want EllisUnit to eat crow and finally admit he was AND is wrong about this kid. I knew time would tell the true story. Can someone make this happen?
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I want EllisUnit to eat crow and finally admit he was AND is wrong about this kid. I knew time would tell the true story. Can someone make this happen?
i ALWAYS hoped he would turn into a top tier CB, he has greatly improved no doubt. As odd as it may sound i still worry about him out there, lets face brady or a team with more than 1 stud WR that jojo covers and see how he does.
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Where is "Da truth Explodes"? He'll come in and argue that Kareem is terrible and should be flipping burgers at Burger King.
he's been too busy posting at the forum he spends most of his time at. I'm sure he'll be back soon.
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For those who preferred Devin McCourty over Kareem Jackson.

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Make sure you listen every words to the end.
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Yeah, it's funny how so many of our fans said he didn't have the talent to play in this league. Or that he wasn't worthy of a first round pick.

I understand he played poorly, but all rookies do, especially starting at #1 or #2 CB.
Not all. I am happy for KJ.
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Yeah, it's funny how so many of our fans said he didn't have the talent to play in this league. Or that he wasn't worthy of a first round pick.

I understand he played poorly, but all rookies do, especially starting at #1 or #2 CB.
I will only speak for myself and I was firmly against Jackson when he was drafted. He was not a bump and run corner & that was how he was being played. You can re-write history but KJ spent a lot time stumbling and catching up when he tried to bump a vet & missed. He did not have the coach he has now. The best things about KJ was he did not allow the pressure to screw with his psyche and he listened to the new coach.

The team we had in 2010 was not conducive to a first round pick not reaching his peak until his third season. We needed help immediately. Regardless, Texans coaches took a project and made him into an apparent very good player. Props to them and to KJ.
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I'll speak for myself too, I thought there could be no way that KJ would be able to recover mentally from what happened to him in his rookie season. Been proved wrong, and just imagine if JoJo can get himself healthy over the bye week.
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I'll give it until the end of the season before commenting here.

His career is in its 3rd year, not even to the halfway point of that 3rd season...it's a bit premature to start the whole "I'm calling everyone out!" thread. Geez, let's fit the guy for a HOF jacket already I suppose. LOL.
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He's having a much better season so far. I can think of only 1 instance when he looked like the old Kareem Jackson when he doesn't turn his head around.
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I'll give it until the end of the season before commenting here.

His career is in its 3rd year, not even to the halfway point of that 3rd season...it's a bit premature to start the whole "I'm calling everyone out!" thread. Geez, let's fit the guy for a HOF jacket already I suppose. LOL.
I agree it's too early for that, but I think it looking promising. I'm sure we all remember 2010 and these numbers are a vast improvement. Let's hope he continues this pace!
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Was? Kareem Jackson was the worst starting corner in the league in 2010. Now, he deserves mention as a Pro Bowl possibility. Jackson should get credit for much of his improvement, but where would he be without the tutelage of Vance Joseph and Wade Phillips. Fact is that since Wade arrived, a lot of things that stunk now smell like roses.
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I'll give it until the end of the season before commenting here.

His career is in its 3rd year, not even to the halfway point of that 3rd season...it's a bit premature to start the whole "I'm calling everyone out!" thread. Geez, let's fit the guy for a HOF jacket already I suppose. LOL.
You're right, it's too soon into his good play to start calling for him to be crowned.

It was also FAR too early for him to be crucified by members of this board half a year into his career.
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Yeah, it's funny how so many of our fans said he didn't have the talent to play in this league. Or that he wasn't worthy of a first round pick.

I understand he played poorly, but all rookies do, especially starting at #1 or #2 CB.
Biggest factor is playing in a real scheme and not in Frank Bushes semi-retarded WTF front.
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Rookie corners struggle. It is the way it is. Asking a rook to man up on the other team's #1 game in and game out is a mistake. IIRC Jackson was supposed to be the most "NFL ready" CB in the draft. It didn't matter. We didn't get enough pressure and we had terrible safety play that year. If you were down on KJ you had a right to be. The problem comes in if you blamed him for his lack of success. It is the coaches job to put a player in a position to succeed. Putting a rook as the #1 or #2 CB is not putting him in a position for success. You can argue that the situation warranted it, and that's fine but it was what it was. IIRC he was also being taught some weird side step when breaking into coverage.

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Rookie corners struggle. It is the way it is. Asking a rook to man up on the other team's #1 game in and game out is a mistake. IIRC Jackson was supposed to be the most "NFL ready" CB in the draft. It didn't matter. We didn't get enough pressure and we had terrible safety play that year. If you were down on KJ you had a right to be. The problem comes in if you blamed him for his lack of success. It is the coaches job to put a player in a position to succeed. Putting a rook as the #1 or #2 CB is not putting him in a position for success. You can argue that the situation warranted it, and that's fine but it was what it was. IIRC he was also being taught some weird side step when breaking into coverage.

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I'm not going to discount the hard work that KJ has put in to improve as a player. I don't think the criticism of KJ was unfounded or unwarranted. I do think he's worked his ass off and been coached up/put into a position to succeed by Phillips. All the coaching in the world is useless unless the player puts in the work to put the coaching into effect. I'm proud of the young man for taking the necessary coaching and putting in the effort to make it show up on the field.
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