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Old 10-25-2012   #1
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Vickers: Cowboys can follow lead of 2011 Texans, persevere in wake of Lee's injury
Dallas Cowboys fullback Lawrence Vickers, a seventh-year NFL veteran, responded to the news about season-ending surgery for linebacker/team leader Sean Lee by preaching the gospel of the 2011 Houston Texans.

Vickers, a fullback in Houston last season, watched the team lose star after star _ defensive end Mario Williams, quarterback Matt Schaub, receiver Andre Johnson _ to a series of lengthy or season-ending injuries. Yet the Texans persevered and won the first division title and playoff game in franchise history. Asked if he’d ever been around a team that lost more key players in one season, Vickers said: “No.”

“Last year in Houston, it seemed like we had somebody go down every week,” Vickers said. “But after a while, we got used to it. When a guy goes down, the next guy steps up and it becomes his job. And you keep on ticking. Everybody’s a starter, man. That’s how you’ve got to prepare.”

Vickers said he shared his experiences today with Cowboys teammates’ to remind them that, at 3-3, there is a lot of season left to salvage without Lee if they do not give in to adversity.

“Absolutely,” Vickers said. “That’s how you know what type of team you’ve got.”
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Now we're the "good example" ..... we used to be the "bad example" for so long.
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Now we're the "good example" ..... we used to be the "bad example" for so long.
True, but it's too late for the Cowboys. What made last year's "next man up" thing work so well was the work that Kubiak did 6 years ago, starting with arranging a face to face between McNair & Rick Smith.

This team is deep & looks like they're always looking at the future. We've had a couple of Duds, but we've hit far more studs over that time.

Next man up, that's the way this team was built.
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News Flash, Lawrence: You were on a helluva' team last year, bro.

Soooooo....uhh...yeah, your new team is scuh-rewed.
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The first place they should start is getting some classy fans.
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The first place they should start is getting some classy fans.
I hate to say this, I really do, but I believe this as fact. If Dallas' fanbase consisted only of Dallasites present and former, they would not have the bad fan reputation they do.

It has seemed to me for years the horrible Dallas fans are the ones that never lived there. The ones I grew up with in Houston come to mind first, the ones in Austin second. All the cool ones are from there.
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I hate to say this, I really do, but I believe this as fact. If Dallas' fanbase consisted only of Dallasites present and former, they would not have the bad fan reputation they do.

It has seemed to me for years the horrible Dallas fans are the ones that never lived there. The ones I grew up with in Houston come to mind first, the ones in Austin second. All the cool ones are from there.

As a Dallas fan that grew up in Ft. Worth, I can see this a little but I also see the other side of things too. Houston fans pride themselves on being "classy" and being here and seeing ya'll towards your team, I agree somewhat. But I wouldn't call Houston fans..the city.. in general that way. Living there and hearing the constant Cowboy hate talk on the radio, even when the Texans were a subject really turned me off. I've even seen the best Texans fans admit the city suffers from a little brother syndrome that has made people for years just obsess with Cowboy talk. I always tell people it goes both ways. You get bad Cowboy fans because you taunt the lion in the cage by constantly discussing Cowboy hate and fans. Chicken or the egg. Overall when I first moved to Houston in 1993, I didn't get that as much from Oiler fan and I was an Oiler fan as a secondary team. I'm going GP and babbling here.....but my point is there are bad fans in every lot. BUT I do get where you are coming from somewhat because 90% of the people I know who root for the Cowboys grew up with or around me in the DFW area.

Here is an example of trash fans hating...Soldier/Cowboy Fan who lost legs in Afghanistan taunted at bar after Panther game

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ball-fans.html
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Default Re: Ever Think the Cowboys Would Try to Mimic the Texans

Oh, they're just jealous 'cause we won a playoff game.

Seriously though, only bad Cowboys fans I've actually heard are the ones on the radio and other media. The media tends attract bad fans of all teams.

Getting away from the media, the bad fans are usually the band-wagoners for whatever team won the last SB or that they started the season off thinking would. The Saints come to mind, although a lot of their bandwagoners are probably jumping ship right now.
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If they wanted to mimic the Texans then it would start at the top. Bob McNair is patient (probably too patient). Jerry Jones is not. But there's something to be said that by the end of this football season, the Texans will probably have more playoffs win in the last 15 years than the Cowboys will.
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The first place they should start is getting some classy fans.
What sucks about Cowboys fans, if you go to a game and sit in the high dollar seats, is they sit on their hands. Both the old & new stadium experience is quiet. You leave Reliant with your ears ringing.

As far as class, those fans far outclass the owner. Jerruh don't fit in Highland Park.
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I hate to say this, I really do, but I believe this as fact. If Dallas' fanbase consisted only of Dallasites present and former, they would not have the bad fan reputation they do.

It has seemed to me for years the horrible Dallas fans are the ones that never lived there. The ones I grew up with in Houston come to mind first, the ones in Austin second. All the cool ones are from there.
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As a Dallas fan that grew up in Ft. Worth, I can see this a little but I also see the other side of things too. Houston fans pride themselves on being "classy" and being here and seeing ya'll towards your team, I agree somewhat. But I wouldn't call Houston fans..the city.. in general that way. Living there and hearing the constant Cowboy hate talk on the radio, even when the Texans were a subject really turned me off. I've even seen the best Texans fans admit the city suffers from a little brother syndrome that has made people for years just obsess with Cowboy talk. I always tell people it goes both ways. You get bad Cowboy fans because you taunt the lion in the cage by constantly discussing Cowboy hate and fans. Chicken or the egg. Overall when I first moved to Houston in 1993, I didn't get that as much from Oiler fan and I was an Oiler fan as a secondary team. I'm going GP and babbling here.....but my point is there are bad fans in every lot. BUT I do get where you are coming from somewhat because 90% of the people I know who root for the Cowboys grew up with or around me in the DFW area.

Here is an example of trash fans hating...Soldier/Cowboy Fan who lost legs in Afghanistan taunted at bar after Panther game

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ball-fans.html
The Cowboys are a lightning rod like other nationally popular teams (Lakers, Yankees) because they attract a lot of bandwagon fans. So that explains some of the hate for the Cowboys in Houston. You'll find the same sentiment in most other cities, but maybe not to the same extent. I lived in both Houston and Dallas for extended periods of time, Dallas being the most recent one, and I kind of agree with both of you. I think Cowboys fans from the Metroplex ARE different than those who have no Dallas ties. A lot of my friends are Cowboys fans, and they actually ask me about the Texans from time to time. I also think some Texans fans are a little too jumpy about the Cowboys and think there is some rivalry between the teams, when there really isn't.
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