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Old 10-16-2012   #1
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With Foster looking less than normal, AJ looking a little off and things not going 100% as planned are there any moves that we could make to improve? I'm not sure if there are any Olinemen to pick up but what would it cost to pick up Plex and would it be worth a shot? Just curious even though 5-1 aint bad
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I'm sure there are pretty good reasons 32 teams have just said NO to plex.

At this stage in the season your chances of picking up any good players off the street are pretty negligible.
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David anderson ...!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

buttt to late it seems the texans alrady filled the spot the jamesion left with... hUNTER I THINK HES A DT or LB so ....

i just think Lestar jean and Posey need to step it up to help carry some of the slack .. thats the bottom line

and ben tate needs to get healthy FASTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!
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What this offense needs is David Anderson again.

Instant boost.

Only kidding, but I wonder if Gary lays awake at night and actually contemplates such a move. Probably does. LOL.
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This FO in the off-season decided it was going to take in-house solutions and to the draft to deal with loses.

On the OL I think this was pretty much the right call, considering Caldwell was supposed to be healthy, Butler had looked capable in spot duty at both tackle spots and we had drafted two OG with good potential. I think bringing Harris was a good call and could help solidify the T spot for the rest of the season as they rotate Newton and him out. If Caldwell doesn't make it this Sunday it might be a chance for Brooks to get some game time reps, which is going to help going into next season.

Far as WR go... there are teams in much more needier positions that haven't made calls to TO or Burress. The Texans aren't going to either. I've seen sparks time to time from Jean (who needs to get healthy) and Martin. Anything this team gets from Posey is icing on the cake (still think it was a bad pick). This team isn't going out of house for WR at this point, those guys need to step it up.

I do honestly, don't think it would be bad at this point to feed the ball outside to AJ. I still think he's capable of taking over a game outside they just haven't tried to do that because this team wants to and can be more balanced.

Mid-season trades are pretty rare in the NFL as opposed to most other leagues, but if I had a say the biggest thing this team should do is make an trade for help at ILB with Cushing's injury.
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A trade in the middle of the season??

We're going to play with the cards we've already got in our hand, for better or for worse.
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Not sure if this comment is better suited for the college ball section... but should WR be a 1st or 2nd round pick? I'm very worried about finding a #1 receiver as heir to Andre for the franchise. We struck gold with Dre so long ago that we haven't really bothered to look for another talent. I'm not sure who fits the Andre mold heading into the draft - and I think the FO would look for someone like Andre - a big strong guy (not Megatron big mind) who runs crisp clean routes and beats DBs with technique more than pure physicality.

I think a WR #1 who gets to learn some from Andre would help revitalize our pass offense some more. Dre's not going to be around forever, so we need to find someone who can do as much as he did for this franchise.

What do y'all think? I've read somewhere on this forum that Andre has a groin injury that's been nagging him. Maybe that's the reason for his somewhat inconsistent production...
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What a terrible offense.

Scored 173 points (28.8/g), 5th of 32 in the NFL. (says pro football reference)

And they surely aren't coming from special teams.

I wonder what we'd be saying if they were 10th in scoring, which would still be better than average?

If anything it's the defense that has issues. We've slipped to 8th there and played only two offenses in the top 20 (well, technically, the Jet's are 20th, so 3).
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Not sure if this comment is better suited for the college ball section... but should WR be a 1st or 2nd round pick? I'm very worried about finding a #1 receiver as heir to Andre for the franchise. We struck gold with Dre so long ago that we haven't really bothered to look for another talent. I'm not sure who fits the Andre mold heading into the draft - and I think the FO would look for someone like Andre - a big strong guy (not Megatron big mind) who runs crisp clean routes and beats DBs with technique more than pure physicality.

I think a WR #1 who gets to learn some from Andre would help revitalize our pass offense some more. Dre's not going to be around forever, so we need to find someone who can do as much as he did for this franchise.

What do y'all think? I've read somewhere on this forum that Andre has a groin injury that's been nagging him. Maybe that's the reason for his somewhat inconsistent production...
I think there's this economy issue that is also in play.

You draft a WR in the first round and you still have to pay AJ.
It's probably too much money to concentrate on one area of the team.
(Money allocation.)

I think we might have to wait until AJ retires or accepts a lower percentage on the pay scale before we can draft a receiver that high.

Many of us, myself included, wanted a receiver either in the first or second round last year.
We were screening a whole bunch of receivers in the draft section of the MB.
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With Foster looking less than normal, AJ looking a little off and things not going 100% as planned are there any moves that we could make to improve? I'm not sure if there are any Olinemen to pick up but what would it cost to pick up Plex and would it be worth a shot? Just curious even though 5-1 aint bad
We have the talent, we just have some guys that need to pick it up, because the next of games is going to be tougher than the first 5 games.

Foster, AJ, Barwin, Cody, Smith, JJ and KJ, among others, need to pick it up a notch.
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Just as a side note... I don't remember Kubiak running end-arounds that much last year or in 2010, when I really started watching the Texans. For all the veterans on the board or the fans who've been fans for longer than I have - are the end-arounds new for Kubiak? Did he use them before 2010 more often? I like the 10 yard pickups we get from Keyshawn on these plays. It's not a play he runs too many times, but... I think Keyshawn is going to be a solid contributor in this offense given more snaps and if he fixes whatever concerns with his hands existed.

Then again, my memory tends to throw in events of its own liking, but the end arounds do seem to be moderately effective.
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Also... Dwayne Bowe apparently wants out of KC pretty bad. What do you guys think about having him here? Two premier receivers? I think it would force other teams to respect the pass game much more, and open up the run game.
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Also... Dwayne Bowe apparently wants out of KC pretty bad. What do you guys think about having him here? Two premier receivers? I think it would force other teams to respect the pass game much more, and open up the run game.
Don't have the cash to get that done. We'll have to make some tough calls again this year I imagine. I think your best hope if you think we need to get another star WR is to invest the draft capital to do it.

I am not in the draft a high round WR because I would rather build the team elsewhere. I think you can get by without all pro WRs.
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the style of offensive we play anyways we dont need stud WR's we manily focus on TE's and RB and FB
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Don't have the cash to get that done. We'll have to make some tough calls again this year I imagine. I think your best hope if you think we need to get another star WR is to invest the draft capital to do it.

I am not in the draft a high round WR because I would rather build the team elsewhere. I think you can get by without all pro WRs.
Also, a first-round receiver can be a hit-and-miss deal.

Blackmon, Floyd and Jenkins haven't showed up.
How about Baldwin from last year?
D. Thomas hasn't done much for the Broncos.
Neither has Kenny Britt (Titans).

The list goes on:
Ted Ginn (bust), Craig Davis (bust), A. Gonzales, Troy Williamson (#7 pick - bust), Mike Williams (#10 pick = bust), Matt Jones, Roy Williams #7, Reggie Willams #9. Michael Clayton (seriously under-archievers), Michael Jenkins, Rashaun Woods (bust).
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Also... Dwayne Bowe apparently wants out of KC pretty bad. What do you guys think about having him here? Two premier receivers? I think it would force other teams to respect the pass game much more, and open up the run game.
Sure it would be nice, but he costs 9 million this year, and 5.8 million is left on his deal for the rest of the season. We simply don't have that capspace to even consider it.
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Just as a side note... I don't remember Kubiak running end-arounds that much last year or in 2010, when I really started watching the Texans. For all the veterans on the board or the fans who've been fans for longer than I have - are the end-arounds new for Kubiak? Did he use them before 2010 more often? I like the 10 yard pickups we get from Keyshawn on these plays. It's not a play he runs too many times, but... I think Keyshawn is going to be a solid contributor in this offense given more snaps and if he fixes whatever concerns with his hands existed.

Then again, my memory tends to throw in events of its own liking, but the end arounds do seem to be moderately effective.
We did that some with Jacoby, but if we're doing it more, it's probably because of Keyshawn's presence.
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Texans offense hasn't looked spectacular since Kyle left, I am wondering how much of Kubiaks genius came from Shanny's son when it came to offensive playcalling.
Yes, please bring back the half-back pass.
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Texans offense hasn't looked spectacular since Kyle left, I am wondering how much of Kubiaks genius came from Shanny's son when it came to offensive playcalling.
The reason our offense looked "spectacular" was because we chose to or had to pass more in the past; usually because we were behind in many games.

If you remember, there were people, myself included, who talked about all those yards our QBs got in garbage time some years back.

Last year, when Schaub had the fewest number of attempts per game, his yard per attempt (8.5) was his career high.

So far, our receivers had dropped a few more balls than they normally do.
And then there was that non-called PI that prevented AJ to get a very long catch (I can't remember exactly, but probably about 45-50 yards).

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