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Old 10-15-2012   #1
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What happened to this guy? He looks clueless out there.
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He got discount double-checked.
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He's obviously a part of Wade's diabolical scheme to get GK fired so WP can get the HC job here.

Just kidding. Sort of... :spy
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I don't think anything's wrong with him despite reports of him being nicked up; I don't think its any more than usual anyway. What it is is just after 4 games, he along with the rest of our defense have been scouted & i'm guessing 1 of the things teams saw was how overly-agressive our db's have been this season.

I say this b/c beginning with the jets game, we started to see tons of double moves being put on him & KJ & guys are coming wide open as a result. Teams have also finally started to take notice of Quinn playing down more in the box for run support, which is leaving little to no safety help over the top.

Bottom line is they are getting too agressive at jumping slants and curls & they can't afford to be with little or no safety help over the top.

Other things teams are seeing from the scouting: Barwin and Reed aren't going to beat them. Control Watt and Smith to lesser extent & the other 2 likely aren't going to pick up the slack.

Wade has said that he finds what his players can do well & then he puts them in situations to where they best utilize that particular skill. This is a double edge sword. Quinn was switched to safety b/c it allows for him to best utilize his best skill...which was tackling coming out of college. When put into coverage he struggles....reminds me alot of the Roy Williams debacle in Dallas when Wade was up there.
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I don't think anything's wrong with him despite reports of him being nicked up; I don't think its any more than usual anyway. What it is is just after 4 games, he along with the rest of our defense have been scouted & i'm guessing 1 of the things teams saw was how overly-agressive our db's have been this season.

I say this b/c beginning with the jets game, we started to see tons of double moves being put on him & KJ & guys are coming wide open as a result. Teams have also finally started to take notice of Quinn playing down more in the box for run support, which is leaving little to no safety help over the top.

Bottom line is they are getting too agressive at jumping slants and curls & they can't afford to be with little or no safety help over the top.

Other things teams are seeing from the scouting: Barwin and Reed aren't going to beat them. Control Watt and Smith to lesser extent & the other 2 likely aren't going to pick up the slack.

Wade has said that he finds what his players can do well & then he puts them in situations to where they best utilize that particular skill. This is a double edge sword. Quinn was switched to safety b/c it allows for him to best utilize his best skill...which was tackling coming out of college. When put into coverage he struggles....reminds me alot of the Roy Williams debacle in Dallas when Wade was up there.
Glover might not be a great cover corner but his coverage skills are more than adequate for a safety.
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Glover might not be a great cover corner but his coverage skills are more than adequate for a safety.
No doubt they are. But i think with him in particular, he's gotten so locked in on playing in the box for run support that he's forgotten that coverage is his primary duty 1st & foremost...at least on occassion he's forgotten anyway.

Look at the last 2 games. part of why teams have started going at Joseph & running those inside trap plays is b/c he & Quinn are on the strong side 90% of the time. They're essentially sucking him in more & more with those 1 yard here, 2 yards there runs.

After about 2 or 3 of those they hit him or Joseph over the top. Double moves on Joseph, play action for Quinn. Both guys were beat over the top in 2 consecutive games & Quinn in particular has been beaten in both games.
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you keep putting your cb's on an island...then get no edge rush against a premiere QB. This is what you get. Nothing wrong with JJ.
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He's obviously a part of Wade's diabolical scheme to get GK fired so WP can get the HC job here.

Just kidding. Sort of... :spy
I know you're sort of kidding, but how does a DC get a HC job by having your defense play like crap?
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I know you're sort of kidding, but how does a DC get a HC job by having your defense play like crap?
Dallas' O sucked butt and the OC got promoted after wade was let go.
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I know you're sort of kidding, but how does a DC get a HC job by having your defense play like crap?
Oh I was completely joking.

I threw in that last line just because the template on me is that I'm a big conspiracy guy.

I'm in need of laughs after last night.
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