The Holliday experiment is over..... - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Big Lou · 10-08-2012

Nuff said..........

Luv_ya_blue · 10-08-2012

He makes poor decisions, no doubt about it.
But the disaster that is our special teams, isn't all on him.
At least a couple of the other 10 players on the field have to at least TRY and block for him.

JMO.

Tonaaayyyy · 10-08-2012

agreed.

dalemurphy · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by Luv_ya_blue

He makes poor decisions, no doubt about it.
But the disaster that is our special teams, isn't all on him.
At least a couple of the other 10 players on the field have to at least TRY and block for him.

JMO.

A specialty special teamer can't be the worst returner in the NFL. Get someone to catch the ball and kneel in the endzone and we improve our field position by 8 yards.

Luv_ya_blue · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by dalemurphy

A specialty special teamer can't be the worst returner in the NFL. Get someone to catch the ball and kneel in the endzone and we improve our field position by 8 yards.

Agreed

**kiwitexansfan** · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by dalemurphy

A specialty special teamer can't be the worst returner in the NFL. Get someone to catch the ball and kneel in the endzone and we improve our field position by 8 yards.

He does try to much. He needs to settle.

dalemurphy · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan

He does try to much. He needs to settle.

I'm concerned with results... not the effort. Results are remarkably bad! We are five games in and it's hideous.

Big Lou · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan

He does try to much. He needs to settle.

He could double his kick off return average by simply taking a knee......

CretorFrigg · 10-08-2012

How many times has Holliday brought the ball past the 20?

Hervoyel · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan

He does try to much. He needs to settle.

I feel like at this point if he hasn't found a way to get into his "happy place" by now he's not going to. The Texans tried but it's not working. He was a preseason all-pro this year but since week one he's been a really poor returner. Bad decisions, questionable ball handling, and to be honest he's not showing us jack-chit in regards to his speed. He's thinking so much that he's slow. I know how fast he can be but if he never makes a decision early enough for it to matter than his speed doesn't matter.

Much as I felt back in the day when we had JJ Moses back there returning (Remember Moses? Lot of fun to watch. Run for 40 yards in circles and across the field, net gain of 5 yards with a penalty because his own blockers lost track of him and ended up blocking someone in the back) I feel like the Texans would be better off with a more conventional returner.

**Hookem Horns** · 01-13-2013

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Originally Posted by Luv_ya_blue

But the disaster that is our special teams, isn't all on him.

You think?

Big Lou · 01-13-2013

But he had fumbleities all season, he had as many bad plays as good.

**Hookem Horns** · 01-13-2013

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Originally Posted by Big Lou

But he had fumbleities all season, he had as many bad plays as good.

Seeing players go other places and perform better tells me a lot about our coaching staff.

Wolf · 01-13-2013

Holliday set record for longest punt return for a td in playoff history and also longest kickoff return for a TD in playoff history.(also most return yards in playof game)

Jacoby set nfl record for longest kickoff return (reg season) in nfl history.

Pretty dang incredible brief moments

Meanwhile joes squad seems to be getting close to nfl record for most blockS in the back

Luv_ya_blue · 01-13-2013

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Originally Posted by Hookem Horns

You think?

You quote me from three months ago???
LOL...that's funny!

Rey · 10-08-2012

I've been a fan if holiday and I've defended him, but if they cut him tomorrow I wouldn't shed a tear.

Rey · 10-08-2012

Texans were better in pre season when they had all those guys we cut playing special teams.

**EllisUnit** · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by Rey

Texans were better in pre season when they had all those guys we cut playing special teams.

but werent we playing guys that the other teams cut as well

Titans Sux 72 · 10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by Big Lou

He could double his kick off return average by simply taking a knee......

Ain't no shiate!!!!!

That's funny right there.

Lady.Gaga.3000 · 10-08-2012

Do people not remember the Ravens game? Trindon hasn't lost a game for us yet. Every seems to think Jacoby did. So which is better? Jacoby or Trindon?

If we put Daniel Manning is out there and he gets injured on a meaningless 8 yard return people will be crying that he was out there in the first place

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Luv_ya_blue 1%er Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Beaumont, TX Age: 37 Posts: 3,891 Rep Power: 21294	Re: The Holliday experiment is over..... He makes poor decisions, no doubt about it. But the disaster that is our special teams, isn't all on him. At least a couple of the other 10 players on the field have to at least TRY and block for him. JMO. __________________ Special Thanks to False Start for the awesome sig! U Rock!

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Tonaaayyyy Rookie Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 62 Rep Power: 129	Re: The Holliday experiment is over..... agreed.

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Big Lou "NUK-LEAR" Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Section: DirecTV Age: 38 Posts: 2,708 Rep Power: 9467	Re: The Holliday experiment is over..... But he had fumbleities all season, he had as many bad plays as good. __________________ *Nothing is impossible, it just costs more.*

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Wolf 100% Texan Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kerrville Age: 43 Posts: 35,906 Rep Power: 41330	Re: The Holliday experiment is over..... Holliday set record for longest punt return for a td in playoff history and also longest kickoff return for a TD in playoff history.(also most return yards in playof game) Jacoby set nfl record for longest kickoff return (reg season) in nfl history. Pretty dang incredible brief moments Meanwhile joes squad seems to be getting close to nfl record for most blockS in the back __________________ Finding out alcohol was a depressant made me question science Last edited by Wolf; 01-13-2013 at 10:01 AM.

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Rey Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,999 Rep Power: 48885	I've been a fan if holiday and I've defended him, but if they cut him tomorrow I wouldn't shed a tear.

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Lady.Gaga.3000 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 148 Rep Power: 416	Re: The Holliday experiment is over..... Do people not remember the Ravens game? Trindon hasn't lost a game for us yet. Every seems to think Jacoby did. So which is better? Jacoby or Trindon? If we put Daniel Manning is out there and he gets injured on a meaningless 8 yard return people will be crying that he was out there in the first place

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