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Old 09-22-2012   #1
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The ole Kerrville boy was kicking butt today in the first half against South Carolina


Aggies up 49-7 at half

15-20 173 yards 3 TDs 197.2 QB rating (sacked 2)

8 rushes 78 yards 2 TD's


Showers is in for the Aggies now


This is probably the most college football I have ever watched outside of bowl games. I am a UT fan so I never really watched the Aggies. I am just keeping on eye on the local kid

However the SEC is coming so.....things will get A LOT tougher for him and Aggies
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Of course he looked good. South Carolina State is worse than some of the high school teams he faced in the past.

Hopefully he can duplicate the numbers during SEC games.

Gig em.
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18-24 for 261 yards 3 TD with 207.6 qb rating

in the first half against arkansas
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409 yards total offense by A&M.

IN THE FIRST HALF.
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409 yards total offense by A&M.

IN THE FIRST HALF.
They had 404 in the first half against Arky last year.
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They didn't have a second half like this last year though.
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I would love to see him end up as a Texan but I hope we're not drafting in the top 2 in a few years.

EDIT: If he keeps it up, I wouldn't be against trading up to get him....
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He sure is fun to watch. Can't say I wouldn't want him on the Texans, but it's a bit too early to be slotting him for the NFL draft. He's not an exceptional passer IMO, and he takes too many risks running around the backfield for 10+ seconds sometimes. That sort of stuff doesnt translate to the NFL very well. Love him in College though.
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He is ridiculous. Goes down after a possible fumble and tackles one guy for a fumble, then tackles the 2nd guy.
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He sure is fun to watch. Can't say I wouldn't want him on the Texans, but it's a bit too early to be slotting him for the NFL draft. He's not an exceptional passer IMO, and he takes too many risks running around the backfield for 10+ seconds sometimes. That sort of stuff doesnt translate to the NFL very well. Love him in College though.
WTF are you talking about?? The kid is accurate as hell on bootlegs, he's mobile and can extend drives with his legs. He's displaying all of this in every game. He's Schaub with wheels. Ya know, if Brett Favra had been in Kubiaks system, he'd be a 1st ballot HOF'er.
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WTF are you talking about?? The kid is accurate as hell on bootlegs, he's mobile and can extend drives with his legs. He's displaying all of this in every game. He's Schaub with wheels. Ya know, if Brett Favra had been in Kubiaks system, he'd be a 1st ballot HOF'er.
He's only a freshman. As good as he is, he will be better in 2 or 3 years.

BTW, he just ran for 75 yards for a TD to put A&M back up by 3 scores.
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Johnny F'ing Football.
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WTF are you talking about?? The kid is accurate as hell on bootlegs, he's mobile and can extend drives with his legs. He's displaying all of this in every game. He's Schaub with wheels. Ya know, if Brett Favra had been in Kubiaks system, he'd be a 1st ballot HOF'er.
A good amount of his completions come from broken plays because he chose not to throw it to a WR during their route. Those completions simply won't happen much in the NFL, and would likely be sacks, TFLs or throw aways. His play style is similar to Vince Young in that much of his positive yardage comes from these sorts of broken plays, and I'm not going to overlook that when draft time comes. It's great that he can make something happen, but I'd rather have a disciplined QB that will go through his progressions and hit receivers in stride more often than not.

He also has the issue that guys like Vick, RG3 and Cam have where the QB likes to run the ball too much and will put himself in harms way. It's not always a bad thing, but I'd rather see my QB get it done more often with passes than runs. It's great if they are mobile enough to pick up the 1st, but I would prefer that to not happen too often so we don't see the QB get injured.

It's just his first year though, so I hope to see improvement in these areas, most importantly less reliance on running and more on passing. Hell of player though, and I"m more excited for A&M football than I ever have been before. I expect the Manziel for Heisman campaign should start this week, and rightfully so.
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Well, I'm sure Sumlin won't want Manziel to be a total Vince Young clone. I agree, that doesn't translate too well to the NFL. Sumlin does want him to stick in the pocket and only use his feet when necessary, because those big SEC linebackers will lay some hurt on him if he tries running too much.

Give him a few years, and see what he does. I think he's got Heisman potential.
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Well.... that should end any Heisman talk for now.

Florida used the same alignment in the second half of their game as well. If LSU had any sort of offense that game wouldn't have been as close.

Kid's a gamer now and he's going to get better in Sumlin's offense though and when he fully gets it, it's going to be scary for opponents.
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He is killing auburn two passing and two rushing td's before halftime

42-7. Auburn might want to keep on walking past the lockerroom and out of the stadium
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He's been great. But... it's Auburn. Auburn is just as awful as Manziel is good.
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He's been great. But... it's Auburn. Auburn is just as awful as Manziel is good.
Yeah, but he's done it against everyone except two of the top defenses in Div 1. And he's a freshman QB, not a running back.
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Yeah, but he's done it against everyone except two of the top defenses in Div 1. And he's a freshman QB, not a running back.
This is true, particularly the bolded. Can't wait to see Manziel evolve in the coming years.
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This is true, particularly the bolded. Can't wait to see Manziel evolve in the coming years.
Manziel will be the number one pick in whatever draft he enters. I will cite this thread in a few years when it happens. Mark it down.
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