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Old 09-12-2012   #1
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Please note this is a FWIW type thread, please keep the "oh our BCS hopes" comments tightly tucked in your...well....you know We know none of this matters, but it's fun to look at IMO....

Looks like we are between 4 and 2 in the rankings depending on who you look at...

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Please note this is a FWIW type thread, please keep the "oh our BCS hopes" comments tightly tucked in your...well....you know We know none of this matters, but it's fun to look at IMO....
Looks like we are between 4 and 2 in the rankings depending on who you look at...
100% correct on that. These ratings are silly, but when your team is getting the love, you can't help but read them. LOL
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If you notice on NFL.com each team has their logo then team name right next to them...except the Jets where they have the logo followed by the team name "Tebow". Fantastic.
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If you notice on NFL.com each team has their logo then team name right next to them...except the Jets where they have the logo followed by the team name "Tebow". Fantastic.
Hahahaa.....effing hilarious....I didn't even notice that!! Classic!!

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If you notice on NFL.com each team has their logo then team name right next to them...except the Jets where they have the logo followed by the team name "Tebow". Fantastic.
You should have used the term Fan-Tebow-astic!
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I was going to make a similar thread .... but not really about the Texans ....


Was thinking to myself after watching SF handle GB at home .... Man they look tough. They are a complete team built much like ours , nasty defense and an offense that can beat you into submission on the ground and beat you thru the air while making very few mistakes.

Houston and SF .... the two most complete teams in the NFL ? (Might have to put the Ravens in the conversation).
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I was going to make a similar thread .... but not really about the Texans ....


Was thinking to myself after watching SF handle GB at home .... Man they look tough. They are a complete team built much like ours , nasty defense and an offense that can beat you into submission on the ground and beat you thru the air while making very few mistakes.

Houston and SF .... the two most complete teams in the NFL ? (Might have to put the Ravens in the conversation).
I don't think Alex Smith or Joe Flacco are as good of QB's as Matt Schaub.
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100% correct on that. These ratings are silly, but when your team is getting the love, you can't help but read them. LOL
I never thought that. I think they are very useful. It may not be the exact same system, but I'm sure the Vegas odds are based on a similar system & fantasy projections.

While those may be useless or silly to some, for me it's a basis for how good/bad your team is. If the power rankings mean nothing, then the Washington win over New Orleans at home isn't really an upset, or even news worthy for that matter. Philly's struggle in Cleveland isn't anything to "worry" about.

The Jets not making the play-offs last year is a bigger story than the Rams not making the play-offs, because of Power Rankings (on some level).

The Cowboys beat the Giants Wednesday night, was that really an upset? Not according to 2011's week 17 power rankings. which have them more evenly ranked than not. The Giants winning the Super Bowl, that's a shock.... because of the Power Rankings, whether you admit it or not. There's no way you can tell me (even though I called it way before week 17) that you thought the Giants were the best team in football before the play-offs started.

These are experts, using whatever method they've devised to let us know who the best teams are, who the worst teams are, and how the middle falls out. Little bit of stats, little bit of snake-oil...

We all do it in our own minds though we may not call it a "power ranking" We should beat the Jags. We should beat the Colts. The Titans might compete for the AFC South. We may be 9-7 or 12-5 in 2012. All based on a power ranking of some sort.

Some people say S.O.S. doesn't matter because teams change so much year to year, & week to week. The Power Rankings pretty much takes that into account in a real-time basis.

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I did not know the AP started a new power ranking this year. They have a panel of 12 people picked from the 60 media members who choose the after season awards and use a point system.

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I did not know the AP started a new power ranking this year. They have a panel of 12 people picked from the 60 media members who choose the after season awards and use a point system.

http://pro32.ap.org/poll
I don't get their point system. How in the world do the Colts or Dolphins get any first place votes?
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I don't get their point system. How in the world do the Colts or Dolphins get any first place votes?
They didn't.

The 1st place votes are in parenthesis beside the name of the team.

So the Pats got 8, the Niners got 1, the Ravens got 2, and the Texans got 1.
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I never thought that. I think they are very useful. It may not be the exact same system, but I'm sure the Vegas odds are based on a similar system & fantasy projections.

While those may be useless or silly to some, for me it's a basis for how good/bad your team is. If the power rankings mean nothing, then the Washington win over New Orleans at home isn't really an upset, or even news worthy for that matter. Philly's struggle in Cleveland isn't anything to "worry" about.

The Jets not making the play-offs last year is a bigger story than the Rams not making the play-offs, because of Power Rankings (on some level).

The Cowboys beat the Giants Wednesday night, was that really an upset? Not according to 2011's week 17 power rankings. which have them more evenly ranked than not. The Giants winning the Super Bowl, that's a shock.... because of the Power Rankings, whether you admit it or not. There's no way you can tell me (even though I called it way before week 17) that you thought the Giants were the best team in football before the play-offs started.

These are experts, using whatever method they've devised to let us know who the best teams are, who the worst teams are, and how the middle falls out. Little bit of stats, little bit of snake-oil...

We all do it in our own minds though we may not call it a "power ranking" We should beat the Jags. We should beat the Colts. The Titans might compete for the AFC South. We may be 9-7 or 12-5 in 2012. All based on a power ranking of some sort.

Some people say S.O.S. doesn't matter because teams change so much year to year, & week to week. The Power Rankings pretty much takes that into account in a real-time basis.

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Man, I remember before the season reading about how much tougher the NFC is this year than the AFC this year, but I'm not so sure. You can't make any definitive judgments after just one game, but Denver looked like they can be right up there with the teams who were predicted to be the class of the AFC (Baltimore, Houston, NE). Add in an always good Pittsburgh team and that's five teams who could all be the #1 seed come playoff time.
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Man, I remember before the season reading about how much tougher the NFC is this year than the AFC this year, but I'm not so sure. You can't make any definitive judgments after just one game, but Denver looked like they can be right up there with the teams who were predicted to be the class of the AFC (Baltimore, Houston, NE). Add in an always good Pittsburgh team and that's five teams who could all be the #1 seed come playoff time.
Yeah , the AFC looks to be the tougher conference .... and you are spot on looking at Denver being able to play with the big boys. As Ive stated in a couple other threads , their defense and running game were able to carry Tim Tebow to a playoff win .... Then they replace Tebow with Peyton Manning.

Im not so sure Pittsburgh or NE deserve to be in the class that Houston , Baltimore and Denver do .... their defenses are suspect in comparison - although its hard to bet against Tom Brady. I believe they are in the next tier below those three more complete teams.


In the NFC I think the 49ers are in a class by themselves with everybody else a step below. Green Bay is much like NE .... very suspect defense. Maybe the Bears move up on my list if they continue to play well on both sides of the ball.
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Yeah , the AFC looks to be the tougher conference .... and you are spot on looking at Denver being able to play with the big boys. As Ive stated in a couple other threads , their defense and running game were able to carry Tim Tebow to a playoff win .... Then they replace Tebow with Peyton Manning.
And they improved their secondary.

That Broncos team is starting to scare me, tbh.
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And they improved their secondary.

That Broncos team is starting to scare me, tbh.
I said in a thread in the NFL section that this week three matchup could be a preview of the AFC title game ....
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Im not so sure Pittsburgh or NE deserve to be in the class that Houston , Baltimore and Denver do .... their defenses are suspect in comparison - although its hard to bet against Tom Brady. I believe they are in the next tier below those three more complete teams.
I don't think the rankings are based on how balanced, a team is, but on their ability to win games. When looking at a team like NE (I don't really have anything to say about Pittsburgh) chances are they are going to score 30 points, week in week out. How many other teams are going to be able to hang with that?

Even looking at the Texans, are you saying you penciled NewEngland as a win? Will we be able to stop them from scoring 30? 27? 24? How many points do you think we'll be able to score? We averaged 26 ppg with Schaub last year. But you don't get into a shootout with a gunslinger. We'll have to stay on the field, control the clock & minimize their opportunities. We might not get to 20 points.
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