Connor Barwin?

[awc713]

What are your thoughts on the guy?

Seemed to disappear in the playoffs against Cinci, don't remember him being much of a factor agianst Baltimore.

Didn't look that great yesterday either. Reason for worry? Is he over-rated? 4 of his sacks did come in one game agaisnt Gabbert...

thoughts?

[Bleed_Blu_Red]

Wouldn't say he is overrated,sometimes you just don't factor into games I'm sure he will be fine and put up numbers 15 regular season games left.

[Vinny]

I think that it's only a matter of time when Whitney Mercilus replaces him. I think he and Reed are both strong side guys.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Vinny

I think that it's only a matter of time when Whitney Mercilus replaces him. I think he and Reed are both strong side guys.

I agree.

Didn't think he disappeared in the play-offs though.

[Rey]

I'm not a huge fan of any of the edge rushers we have really. I like barwin, but I'm with vinny. I think he'd look better playing with a true weakside pass rusher. I'm not convinced merciless is that guy, but he looks more explosive coming off the edge than anyone else I've seen besides watt.

I liked the look I saw yesterday with watt at end and smith at dt when they were rushing the passer.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Rey

I'm not a huge fan of any of the edge rushers we have really. I like barwin, but I'm with vinny. I think he'd look better playing with a true weakside pass rusher. I'm not convinced merciless is that guy, but he looks more explosive coming off the edge than anyone else I've seen besides watt.

I liked the look I saw yesterday with watt at end and smith at dt when they were rushing the passer.

I think their best look is when Watt is playing the 3 Technique and Barwin at the 5.

[Bulls on Parade]

Look for Barwin to rack up two or three sacks against Gabbert this Sunday.

[Playoffs]

Depends on how they gameplan our defense. Connor is a stud -- I think I'd point my offense toward Reed/Mercilus if choosing my poisin.

[IDEXAN]

Has Barwin put on weight since last year ?

[Bleed_Blu_Red]

Originally Posted by IDEXAN

Has Barwin put on weight since last year ?

Ya he is 270,before he was 255 or 260 a lot of people say that's why he isn't the same he lost quickness and acceleration. it's just one game to me.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Bleed_Blu_Red

Ya he is 270,before he was 255 or 260 a lot of people say that's why he isn't the same he lost quickness and acceleration. it's just one game to me.

Why would he gain weight if he's going to play the weakside?

[wolf123]

Originally Posted by Bleed_Blu_Red

Ya he is 270,before he was 255 or 260 a lot of people say that's why he isn't the same he lost quickness and acceleration. it's just one game to me.

He bulked up and then worried that the weight might make him lose a step. I've watched him very closely and he looks to me like he has.

[Brisco_County]

The reason Wade drafted Mercilus is to keep a fresh rotation of strong pass rushers. That's how the Giants have beaten one of the best QB's in history in two Superbowls. That said, Barwin's value will soar in the offseason, and he won't be a Texan next year. And good for him on his future wealth, which was jeopardized after his ankle injury in 2010.

But for that reason, we're probably taking another OLB in the 1st or 2nd round next year.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by Brisco_County

The reason Wade drafted Mercilus is to keep a fresh rotation of strong pass rushers. That's how the Giants have beaten one of the best QB's in history in two Superbowls. That said, Barwin's value will soar in the offseason, and he won't be a Texan next year. And good for him on his future wealth, which was jeopardized after his ankle injury in 2010.

But for that reason, we're probably taking another OLB in the 1st or 2nd round next year.

If they didnt have the franchise tag option ..... I'd tend to agree with you here that he would be gone. But we're talking about an OLB rather than a DE so his tagnumber will be kept down because of that .... enabling the Texans to either negotiate a long term deal (Barwin understands the importance because of the prior injury) or tag him for a one year deal.

My money is on them coming to amutual agreement.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

If they didnt have the franchise tag option ..... I'd tend to agree with you here that he would be gone. But we're talking about an OLB rather than a DE so his tagnumber will be kept down because of that .... enabling the Texans to either negotiate a long term deal (Barwin understands the importance because of the prior injury) or tag him for a one year deal.

My money is on them coming to amutual agreement.

Rick Smith said he thought the franchise tag number for Barwin would be around $9MM.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Rick Smith said he thought the franchise tag number for Barwin would be around $9MM.

I was thinking around ~$8 when I made the post .... Sounds reasonable.


Will they pay that ?? .... There's the $8-9M question. Alldepends upon how Barwin performs this year.

[beerlover]

Maybe after resigning Schaub & Brown it would be too difficult to restructure more contracts to extend Barwin? All this talk about franchising players, are franchise tags cap friendly? I don't think so.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Brisco_County

The reason Wade drafted Mercilus is to keep a fresh rotation of strong pass rushers. .

The reason we drafted Mercilus is because he's a pass rusher. Connor, not so much. A solid DE, SOLB maybe. But he's no "pass rusher"

Mario Williams was on his way to a 16+ sack season in Wade's system. Demarcus Ware was continuously at the top of the league, in Wade's system.

The WOLB position in Wade's system is like a RB in Kubiak's system, you've got to have the right guys there & Connor (though he's a damn good football player) is not that guy.

If Connor gets 15+ sacks this season, then I'm wrong & would love to see it. I just don't see it happening.

We need a solid rotation of pass rushers, no doubt. But Connor is not the main event. Merci might be.

[macho grande]

Originally Posted by Naiirb

I believe i heard Barwins name 2-3 times throughout the entire game? I blame the hair being cut off. Lost his mojo

This game? I don't know if I've heard his name 2-3 times this season.

[wolf123]

I've been saying it since the preseason that Barwin has lost a step and looks much slower in his pass rush. There was next to no pressure from the edge in todays game.