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Old 08-31-2012   #1
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Default Do we have a Super Bowl team or not?

Cuts are pretty much over & final starters set. Sure RT is a question mark especially with Butler out but he did not play last season and if Newton can play as much as his predecessor, the swing may not matter.

Schaub & AJ seemingly have resolved questions about current health even if not known how healthy each will remain.

Trindon could end up with a Holliday named after him.

Our WRs look better than last season and Dreesen's loss may be erased by Graham.

Defense, well that is a concern for me with Brooks and Bradie James not doing as well I hoped. NT remains a question as does our back up DBs.

Regardless, I'm calling a SB for our guys.
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Old 08-31-2012   #2
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We have the talent and we have the coaches.

We just need the luck to go with them.
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Default Re: Do we have a Super Bowl team or not?

We'll have a much better indication of things after 2-4 games.

The big question for me on offense isn't the depth at WR, but how the line holds up in both the running and passing game.

And as for defense, I'm not too worried, as Wade has been keeping the good stuff under wraps, and when he unloads it on the opposing team, it'll be tough to beat. If we had to point to a concern, it'd probably be the run D, as was the main issue last year, and I don't feel like we've added anyone to address that.
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That's why they play the games.
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Default Re: Do we have a Super Bowl team or not?

I say yes. I think we have a good 2-3 wide open window for Super bowl appearances. Hopefully this is the year we make it, and the first of many.
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if we stay reasonably healthy and avoid killer injuries-which imo are qb, lt & rt, all 3 d-line, cush, j-joe, we'll be there at the end of january
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Any team with Keo and Gardner on it really has to stay healthy.
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Luckily we're in the AFC. I really don't see any threat from the AFC except for the patriots. The ravens aren't the same anymore. I see us maybe finishing 1st or 2nd in the AFC.

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Default Re: Do we have a Super Bowl team or not?

Never really bought much into the SB hype of this team to begin with. Too many things have to go right for that to happen. maybe enough to make it there...but were not ready to win it....yet.

Some cracks in the armour of this team were exposed last night.

For instance, If it ain't Watt making the play on the front four, we're going to struggle. Teams aren't fearing Barwin or Reed on the edge.

Teams are willing to wager their guys winning the 1 on 1 match ups against our secondary...& they are winning them.

I think our maturity showed last night as well. Stupid penalty after stupid penalty kept drives alive for the Packers....the spotlight burned them to a crisp.

& I can't make up my mind whether or not AJ is just trying to take it as easy as possible so as to not miss any games............or him falling over the hill over night b/c he clearly doesn't look like the same guy...not even from last year.
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Default Re: Do we have a Super Bowl team or not?

The Texans certainly can be a SB team.

But I am still trying to figure out if my friend was right when he called the Texans "The Boise State" of the NFL. Dominating a joke of a division, getting wins against pretty good teams, then blowing it against elite talent
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The Texans certainly can be a SB team.

But I am still trying to figure out if my friend was right when he called the Texans "The Boise State" of the NFL. Dominating a joke of a division, getting wins against pretty good teams, then blowing it against elite talent
Your friend is silly. Boise State got on the map by beating those "elite" teams in prime time games (OU, Oregon, Georgia).

Furthermore, there are only really about 3 elite teams in the NFL in any given year...most teams never play all 3 so if he's saying that about us, he's gotta say it about almost every team in the NFL.

Indy dominated a joke of a division for 10 plus years and noone had a problem with it. The same for NE. Now all of a sudden b/c were taking advantage of it, its a problem.
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Default Re: Do we have a Super Bowl team or not?

No. The OL is bad. It's going to be exposed every time we play a very good team, which is to say, they probably won't make it through the playoffs. I guess there's the "time to gel" theory, but 6 games in, Caldwell looked as awful as I've ever seen in the early part, and they can't even decide which guys they want to play on the right side. The LG is not doing so great either.

Super Bowl teams keep their QB clean and run for more than 1.7ypc against playoff teams. The Texans just played their first playoff team last night.
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No. The OL is bad. It's going to be exposed every time we play a very good team, which is to say, they probably won't make it through the playoffs. I guess there's the "time to gel" theory, but 6 games in, Caldwell looked as awful as I've ever seen in the early part, and they can't even decide which guys they want to play on the right side. The LG is not doing so great either.

Super Bowl teams keep their QB clean and run for more than 1.7ypc against playoff teams. The Texans just played their first playoff team last night.
The thing is.

If the Playoffs were to start today the Jets would be a playoff team. The Dolphins have the same record and the Broncos would jump ahead of the Chargers with a win today.

So all this whole "The Texans have played no body." stuff is just that. Some stuff. The truth is the AFC is pretty weak and the Texans are playing in a weak conference, you have 3 teams the Patriots (who lost again), Ravens, and Texans and everyone chasing those teams.

I do think they are capable of going to the superbowl only because outside of those two teams I think they win against the rest of the AFC. Those two teams are very beatable.

The NFC on the other hand is the stronger conference.
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We got this.

When we win the Super Bowl & the rest of us are saying I never doubted, remember some of you doubted.

In 2001, the Patriots lost 5 games & probably had no idea what was coming.
I doubted. I doubt.

I won't say I Wasn't a doubter. I'll just say I'm shocked and pleasantly surprised.
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There is still time to get the defense back on track, but the last 4 weeks have been brutal. They can't win a playoff game, much less a super bowl with the way they've been playing.

Giving Foster his big payday and dumping Winston is looking worse every day. The O-line just looks bad at times and gets manhandled way too often. It affects everything else we want to do on offense.

I'm not going to jump off a cliff over a stinker, but this team has some problems right now.
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There is still time to get the defense back on track, but the last 4 weeks have been brutal. They can't win a playoff game, much less a super bowl with the way they've been playing.
I'd like to think so, but I'm not seeing it. If we're going to keep throwing the same guys out there, we're not going to get any pass rush. Barwin..... it ain't happening. They don't feel like Braman is going to help.

I wish there was an elite pass-rusher out there looking for a job, but somehow I doubt it.
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I don't think a lot of you know what a bandwagon is. Those of us that have been around since the beginning and have invested both emotionally and monetarily have the right to *****. Identifying problems and bitching about them is what fans of teams do when they aren't happy. And how do you make fans happy so that they don't *****? You win. You win the games that matter. When you suck, you can get away with just winning. When you're supposed to be the best team in the AFC, then you win the games against the other best teams. It's really not that complicated.

When your team loses a meaningful game and you just sort of shrug it off, then you probably aren't emotionally invested enough to be on any bandwagon to begin with. If you criticize the fans that are passionate enough to demand perfection and ***** when they don't get it, then you just don't know WTF you're talking about. But at least maybe you care.

Don't question people's fandom. It's disrespectful for one, and even more, it just makes you look like an imbecile.

This isn't directed at anyone in particular; it just always comes up after a big loss when the really passionate fans start sniping each other. In case you hadn't noticed, take a look at some join dates on this board and think back to those teams. Then consider that most of those old timers came over from the board migration, so in actuality have been a part of this FAN community from the start.
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Eh, there are realistically only 3 contenders in the AFC - Texans, Broncos and Pats. We have beaten one of them and got crushed by the other. Not a bad place to be.

Furthermore, unless we implode, we are going to have a bye - meaning we will only be two tough wins from a Super Bowl (still likely both games would be at Reliant).

Clearly we are not a very good team right now but we have time to pull things together...and I think we will do just that.
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When your team loses a meaningful game and you just sort of shrug it off, then you probably aren't emotionally invested enough to be on any bandwagon to begin with. If you criticize the fans that are passionate enough to demand perfection and ***** when they don't get it, then you just don't know WTF you're talking about. But at least maybe you care.
Was this game really all that meaningful? We are still the #1 seed.
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Default Re: Do we have a Super Bowl team or not?

When I was scanning the forum topics, I thought the title of this thread read "Do we have a SUGAR BOWL team or not?" We definitely have a Sugar Bowl team. Super bowl...not so much.
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