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Old 08-20-2012   #1
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The SF game has me wondering if Graham is not affecting our running game. Dreesen not only had darn good hands, he had strong blocking skills. Graham may be showing flashes of good hands, but his run blocking skills thus far have given me basis for high anxiety.
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Default Re: Are we already missing Joel Dreesen?

Yes!

I think this is our biggest single loss. Dreessen can block & catch, was big in the run game. It opens up the opportunity for Kubiak to add packages for a playmaker like KeyMart, but I think our offense misses Dreessen.
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The SF game has me wondering if Graham is not affecting our running game. Dreesen not only had darn good hands, he had strong blocking skills. Graham may be showing flashes of good hands, but his run blocking skills thus far have given me basis for high anxiety.
I would look at a TE in the 1st round if he's worth it . We have H Back type guys who are 6'3 . I want a 6'6 guy around the goal .
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Default Re: Are we already missing Joel Dreesen?

Well, the Broncos gave him 3 years 8.5 million. Unfortunately, I don't think we had the cap space to match that.
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Default Re: Are we already missing Joel Dreesen?

I think Graham needs experience. Dreeson wasn't the "Dreeson" we're missing today for his first few years. He gradually became the player we're missing. Graham isn't going to become a viable replacement in just a few preseason games after sitting on the bench for most of his career. It's gonna take time.
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Lightbulb Re: Are we already missing Joel Dreesen?

I think James Casey can take his place myself....the guy is going to be good.....remember his catch last year vs New Orleans?

Sure I am going to miss Joel Dressen....but you can not keep everyone every single year some players are going to leave. Look at a team like the Steelers or Patriots...they lose players...but the next man steps up.....

Get used to it....if you have not already.....we will keep losing players every year.....thats the NFL.....
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Default Re: Are we already missing Joel Dreesen?

I am willing to say this team will keep getting better and better. I think Kubes and Wade will correct weaknesses as season progresses.
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Default Re: Are we already missing Joel Dreesen?

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I would look at a TE in the 1st round if he's worth it . We have H Back type guys who are 6'3 . I want a 6'6 guy around the goal .
I'd be willing to bet that they thought about Fleener at 26 in the draft, but Mercilus had fallen into their laps.

I could see a TE being taken by the Texans in the 1st 2 days of the draft in '13. But that's only if Casey's not the guy we (and the staff) thought he was/going to be.
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Default Re: Are we already missing Joel Dreesen?

I liked the athletic play that Casey made to get a first down for us.
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Default Re: Are we already missing Joel Dreesen?

I think we miss Dreesen, dude could block and make clutch catches. I would like to see the Texans go after a TE early in the draft next year.
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I think we miss Dreesen, dude could block and make clutch catches. I would like to see the Texans go after a TE early in the draft next year.
Maybe look in a lower round for a good FB, and move Casey to TE full time.
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If Pee Man stays healthy, I think Dreesen is going to put up Dallas Clark numbers.
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If Pee Man stays healthy, I think Dreesen is going to put up Dallas Clark numbers.
Indeed, I definitely can see a 50 catch season from Dreesen with the way Manning orchestrates his offense.
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I'd be willing to bet that they thought about Fleener at 26 in the draft, but Mercilus had fallen into their laps.

I could see a TE being taken by the Texans in the 1st 2 days of the draft in '13. But that's only if Casey's not the guy we (and the staff) thought he was/going to be.
I know Kubiak loves his TE's but I think unless you have Vernon Davis sitting there Kubiak is probably not pulling the trigger on a 1st round TE. That's a position that gets drafted in the 4th round or later and we find a "gem". I think Duane Brown is the only offensive player we've taken in the 1st round during the Kubiak regime, and that's probably not about to change unless there is some sort of physical freak available.
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I know Kubiak loves his TE's but I think unless you have Vernon Davis sitting there Kubiak is probably not pulling the trigger on a 1st round TE. That's a position that gets drafted in the 4th round or later and we find a "gem". I think Duane Brown is the only offensive player we've taken in the 1st round during the Kubiak regime, and that's probably not about to change unless there is some sort of physical freak available.
Watch some Notre Dame football this upcoming season.

Tyler Eifert, about 6'5-6'6, some 250 lbs.
A combination of size, speed, leaping ability, good hands, and toughness.

This guy probably goes in the first or second round.
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Old thread, dug it up searching our board for Tyler Eifert. What do y'all think about possibly drafting him in the first?

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Watch some Notre Dame football this upcoming season.

Tyler Eifert, about 6'5-6'6, some 250 lbs.
A combination of size, speed, leaping ability, good hands, and toughness.

This guy probably goes in the first or second round.
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I know Kubiak loves his TE's but I think unless you have Vernon Davis sitting there Kubiak is probably not pulling the trigger on a 1st round TE. That's a position that gets drafted in the 4th round or later and we find a "gem". I think Duane Brown is the only offensive player we've taken in the 1st round during the Kubiak regime, and that's probably not about to change unless there is some sort of physical freak available.
Now that we've got a competent defense & DC, I think we may see an offensive pick in the 1st round.

Not that we'll definitely pick on an offensive player, but I would think the value of offensive players has caught up to the value of defensive players. Remember, until recently we'd field a top 10 offense & a last place defense.
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Old thread, dug it up searching our board for Tyler Eifert. What do y'all think about possibly drafting him in the first?





Now that we've got a competent defense & DC, I think we may see an offensive pick in the 1st round.

Not that we'll definitely pick on an offensive player, but I would think the value of offensive players has caught up to the value of defensive players. Remember, until recently we'd field a top 10 offense & a last place defense.

Do you think Owen Daniels may be a cap casualty? All i do know is our offense has to be retooled. I love AJ as much as anyone but it irritates me when he's the only one making plays for us. Seems like he was the only one who showed up a good portion of the season. If Eifert could be that guy to alleviate the pressure from AJ I'd be all for it.
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Now that we've got a competent defense & DC, I think we may see an offensive pick in the 1st round.

Not that we'll definitely pick on an offensive player, but I would think the value of offensive players has caught up to the value of defensive players. Remember, until recently we'd field a top 10 offense & a last place defense.
Check this interview with McNair after he came back from the Super Bowl. At about the 6:30 - 7 minute mark McNair talks about the draft. First thing out of his mouth is "do we need more defense" to stop the dink & dunk offenses of N. E. and others.

He said "we're in good shape at RB" [okay Bob, I'll give you that one] and we're in good shape at QB [depends on which fan you ask, Bob], and we're in good shape at TE..." ummm.... look closer Bob.

He did say we need more speed at WR.... I guess that's something. Doesn't sound like he's gonna make that a rd 1-3 pick though.
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The SF game has me wondering if Graham is not affecting our running game. Dreesen not only had darn good hands, he had strong blocking skills. Graham may be showing flashes of good hands, but his run blocking skills thus far have given me basis for high anxiety.
As much as I LOVED Joel Dreesen, I think it had more to do with the level of competition we were facing (SF is insanely good against the run) with a group of linemen who have only been playing together a few weeks. Another preseason game (I know there are two) and Miami will help tune that up.

He is a much better TE than people give him credit for, I'm going to get flamed but I think I'd rather him over OD given the choice.
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I'd have liked to have kept Dreesen , sad fact is the cap space just wasnt there to do it.


I thinkthey may sign a blocking TE as some become available as they are cut elsewhere. Brock just hasnt earned his spot on the 53.
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