Super Mario not so super so far

[srrono]

2 preseason games zero stats registered. I wonder if bills fans are worried.

[Texn4life]

Originally Posted by srrono

2 preseason games zero stats registered. I wonder if bills fans are worried.

No one should be worried about any proven player in preseason unless they're hurt.

[TexansSeminole]

Let's not start talking trash about Mario. He was a good player and would have been retained had he not been so elite. The guy will produce and has in the past. He is an excellent player. He chose to move on and be paid much higher than he would have been as a Texan. It was a mutually beneficial breakup.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by srrono

2 preseason games zero stats registered. I wonder if bills fans are worried.

Didn't we used to have these same preseason Mario threads (0-0-0)? Williams will put up numbers (if healthy). Numbers worth $100 million? That's another story.

[Hookem Horns]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Didn't we used to have these same preseason Mario threads (0-0-0)? Williams will put up numbers (if healthy). Numbers worth $100 million? That's another story.

That's the issue. How many seasons was Mario totally healthy? I can think of maybe one.

[TdotTexas2Step]

There are two certains with Mario:

1. He will produce.
2. He will get hurt somewhere along the way.

With all that said, no Bills fans shouldn't be worried because when the lights come on, he'll be there for them. Now when he gets hurt, then we can ask if Bills fans are worried.

[Playoffs]

It's preseason, as in not real football.

I wish Mario good luck, as best as his interests don't conflict with our interests.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Hookem Horns

That's the issue. How many seasons was Mario totally healthy? I can think of maybe one.

Who in the NFL is totally healthy? 2007 and 2008 were his best seasons and he didn't have any debilitating injuries. Mario has been good for about 13 games and 9 sacks. I believe he would have put up excellent numbers in Wade's defense, but that's moot. Williams will be good in Buffalo. Maybe Pro Bowl good. But not as good as he could have been in Houston.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Didn't we used to have these same preseason Mario threads (0-0-0)? Williams will put up numbers (if healthy). Numbers worth $100 million? That's another story.

Agreed..... his only issue here, was staying healthy & I think that was a by-product of playing 90% of the snaps. He's a warrior & I'm sure the Bills will be pleased with him.

Until that $100M starts to affect their ability to keep other players. But since they were so far below the cap & have pretty much stayed away from "known" players, i shouldn't be a problem for a while.

I watched the game vs Washington, hadn't watched the most recent game. But as a fan, I would be pleased to see that he's working on his hand game. Not relying on the bull rush, or his speed.

When the games count, I'm sure you'll see him use more of what works & less experimenting/practicing.

[NastyNate]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

Agreed..... his only issue here, was staying healthy & I think that was a by-product of playing 90% of the snaps. He's a warrior & I'm sure the Bills will be pleased with him.

Until that $100M starts to affect their ability to keep other players. But since they were so far below the cap & have pretty much stayed away from "known" players, i shouldn't be a problem for a while.

I watched the game vs Washington, hadn't watched the most recent game. But as a fan, I would be pleased to see that he's working on his hand game. Not relying on the bull rush, or his speed.

When the games count, I'm sure you'll see him use more of what works & less experimenting/practicing.

Exactly. A lack of quality DE rotation left him on the field way too much, and unfortunately I think he's got Kearney behind him now which won't bode well to the rotation. Probably an even worse option if you think about it.

I have no ill feelings towards Mario, he was an okay player here overall, and chased the money while it was there for the taking. Any one of you would have done the same thing.

But I'd bet a wooden nickel Barwin out produces this year over what Mario does.

[b0ng]

I'll revisit Mario Williams's performance after a few regular season game.

[Rey]

Yes bills fans should be worried but not because of the no stats stuff. He's no longer in wades defense and supposedly he's back up over 300 lbs. They paid him at a level where he needs to perform at an elite level consistently and I don't know if buffalo is the place for him to do that.

[Dutchrudder]

He's probably just taking off all the plays cause its preseason.

[Vinny]

I was watching the Bills play and he has been run right at several times...not impressive, but I think vets like him are just trying not to get hurt. It's cold up there in Buffalo soon! Good thing heaters only cost money.

[Norg]

of course they should be worried if i got 80 mill gurantee i might conisder retiring from football go home and eat some ice cream LOL

[Norg]

on a BTW i watched him in the bills / minny game man he did nothing LOL

why does he always do that rushes in a half circle around the QB behind him thats all he did he didnt even touch the QB with one finger LOL he didnt even get within 3 feet from him the hole game LOL

[chicagotexan2]

He won't be a fat Albert hayneswoth, but if the bills fans are expecting reggie white they are in for a big disappointment. Mario was a good and too oft injured player for us. I think he'll be good for the bills but not 100 million good.

[Rey]

Mario is going to get his sacks I think. He is a good player but he wouldn't have been close to being the best player on this defense. He wasn't worth 100 mil.

Jj watt is already a better player than Mario.

[CloakNNNdagger]

Originally Posted by Rey

Mario is going to get his sacks I think. He is a good player but he wouldn't have been close to being the best player on this defense. He wasn't worth 100 mil.

Jj watt is already a better player than Mario.

History tends to repeat itself. Mario was taking plays off and disappeared in a game........already. He is again injured........already. First game or not, he is failing to meet high expectations.........already. Yet he has fattened his super-sized wallet.......already. And I am tired of hearing about how good Mario really is........already.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Rey

Mario is going to get his sacks I think. He is a good player but he wouldn't have been close to being the best player on this defense. He wasn't worth 100 mil.

Jj watt is already a better player than Mario.

I don't know. In this defense, Mario was on track to record 15 sacks. He may very well have gotten close to 20 sacks. Add in all the hurries, pressures, & tackles for losses that would have gone along with 20 sacks in this defense. Who knows?

WOLB in Wade's defense is like a RB in the ZBS, the QB in a WCO... however good the player is, the scheme is designed to "inflate" his production.

When healthy Mario is one of the best DE in the league, even when he "takes plays off & disappear for a while."