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Old 04-24-2012   #1
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Smith at podium: Says he applauds efforts of scouting/coaching staff. Feels better about this process than in years past.

"The work is done and the board is set."

We have to look at OL group, can help ourselves at WR position, and depth in LB corps. Plus "You can always add corners."

We'll have a quality football player available at 26th pick.

Successful last yr in Draft/Free Agency/On field last year. Reason why: we executed. Went in prepared and we executed.

Impressed w depth in draft this year w WR/OL/LB positions.

this time last yr, none of our LB's had played in the position they wound up playing. Succeeded bc of @sonofbum (Wade Phillips), Herring, scouts.

To have that season under @sonofbum has helped everyone. We're further along now. Always need LB help.

Last yr we were fortunate to get @Brooksreed42. Still think he can get better. Also think @HarrisNOFLYZONE will help us win.

Restricted free agency has never been a strong market for improvement.

I spend next day and a half calling around and asking other GM's about potential trades. Most moves happen when you're on clock, tho

We're talking to K Neil Rackers about coming back. K/P are also part of thought process in draft, but few are ever drafted.

Very confident in @MSchaub8 rehab process. Working hard, looking good, and on schedule.


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thanks for posting. Good to see my boy Brandon Harris get mentioned.
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Looks like our hunch about targeting/focusing on OL, WR, and LB (as depth) is being proven true by Smith's comments here. He said exactly that.

It'll be OL in the first round, guys. I'm calling it now. The outright release of Winston while at the same time NOT cutting Jacoby Jones is the telling sign for us going for OL at pick #26.

There'll be a Duane Brown guy there, a guy likely not that high on the boards of the so-called national draftniks, who fits the Kubiak style. The Riley Rieff kid from Iowa, or maybe the Cordy Glenn kid. Someone in that sort of capacity, a mauler who is big and mobile and adaptable.

Kubiak will pick his guy and hunker down for WR or LB in round 2.
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Um...Reiff will be gone in the top 15, and Glenn will probably not last to 26
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Um...Reiff will be gone in the top 15, and Glenn will probably not last to 26
Several mocks have Peter Konz and Kendall Wright lasting until pick 30 or more...which I disagree with, but it's possible.

Once you get out of the top picks, like picks 1 through 5 or 1 through 10...the draft gets fuzzy for a lot of teams. You're going to see teams go after CBs, Safeties, A center or two, WRs, TEs, RBs, LBs....so many positions that other teams need. When we look at OL, a lot of teams want to go with the flashier positions such as WR or RB.

Of the positions a team would LIKELY pick from (which is why I exclude QB here) there's LT, LG, C, RG, RT, RB, TE, WR, DL, LB, CB, and S. That's 12 possible positions to draft from over a period of 20 picks before us at #26 (and that's not even delineating a NT from a DT or an ILB from an OLB, etc.).

So let's assume there's only five "top" picks and therefore there's 20 more picks before us at #26. If each team took the "best" player from each of those twelve positions, then the top 12 guys from those 12 positions are gone and now at overall pick #18 we're into the 2nd tier of players for each of those 12 positions. We're picking 8 picks later and would have a shot at a 2nd tier guy in one of the four positions not yet picked at.

But here's where it gets awesome: Teams won't follow that hypothetical formula. Someone picking at #12 is going to pick the top S on the board. This will trigger a team at pick 20 to select the NEXT best S on the board. Multiple CBs are going to be picked along the way, too. Multiple RBs will go before our pick, as well. So it's possible that 1 guy out of the 2 or 3 that Kubiak is targeting will be there. Cordy Glenn or Zeitler or Konz or Rieff, etc.

Several teams are going to go for the sexy pick. Detroit finally wised up and stopped doing such a thing. They started focusing on the trenches and they're getting better because of that. Other teams will draft that WR or that RB and ignore one of the 2nd or 3rd-tier OL that we're targeting. That's my hunch. And if he IS gone, if there isn't a guy Kubiak wants there at 26...we will trade down.

Winston's release is the key. We're going balls to the wall for a right side OL and the fallback plan is to trade out of the 1st and use current roster depth (Shelley Smith, Antoine Caldwell, etc.) for our right side OL and use the compensatory picks (for having traded out of the 1st) to wreak havoc in rounds 2 through 4. One way or another, we're going to get value.
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Looks like our hunch about targeting/focusing on OL, WR, and LB (as depth) is being proven true by Smith's comments here. He said exactly that.

It'll be OL in the first round, guys. I'm calling it now. The outright release of Winston while at the same time NOT cutting Jacoby Jones is the telling sign for us going for OL at pick #26.

There'll be a Duane Brown guy there, a guy likely not that high on the boards of the so-called national draftniks, who fits the Kubiak style. The Riley Rieff kid from Iowa, or maybe the Cordy Glenn kid. Someone in that sort of capacity, a mauler who is big and mobile and adaptable.

Kubiak will pick his guy and hunker down for WR or LB in round 2.
just for discussion, didn't he say those postions were deep indicating maybe using later rounds for those?
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just for discussion, didn't he say those postions were deep indicating maybe using later rounds for those?
Hmmm....could be a bit of double-speak from Rick.

At first he said "We have to look at OL group, can help ourselves at WR position, and depth in LB corps. Plus, You can always add corners."

Then he said "Impressed w depth in draft this year w WR/OL/LB positions."

Our speculation (the majority of posters here, IMO) was that NOW is the time to add a better WR, and that OL is a target for obvious reasons, and then the release of Ryans might dictate the need for a LB in the top 3 or 4 rounds.

Rick is mirroring that speculation, but do you think he figured he slipped up by being so open about our targets...so he then follows up by saying "DEPTH" to try and throw people off the trail?

He even mentioned maybe adding CB too...which fits the speculation about letting Jason Allen go and finding a challenger for KJ???

I think we have TOO obvious of a need at WR and OL, and a bit at LB and CB, to the point that we'rre not really going to be able to fake out teams picking a dozen or so spots in front of us. People know what we want, they know what we NEED. When you're getting better, people can easily see what players you need the next year. When you suck, you need EVERYTHING!

So I think Rick is not playing mind games. OL or WR in the 1st round is the highest percentage to bet on, IMO. I'd stake 75% on OL and a mere 25% on WR...and that's only if a guy or two at WR slips too far. Such as for some whacked out reason Michael Floyd fell to the 20's and we decided to risk the farm on him by moving up to get him. I think he's a Top 10 pick, tbh. Will not last past #15 at the worst. We have no chance to get the best WRs, but the OL is deep for what we look for in those guys.
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Someone's going to call Rick about 26 and try and get Weeden for fear that he won't get to them...

OK, that's me HOPING.
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Hmmm....could be a bit of double-speak from Rick.

At first he said "We have to look at OL group, can help ourselves at WR position, and depth in LB corps. Plus, You can always add corners."

Then he said "Impressed w depth in draft this year w WR/OL/LB positions."

Our speculation (the majority of posters here, IMO) was that NOW is the time to add a better WR, and that OL is a target for obvious reasons, and then the release of Ryans might dictate the need for a LB in the top 3 or 4 rounds.

Rick is mirroring that speculation, but do you think he figured he slipped up by being so open about our targets...so he then follows up by saying "DEPTH" to try and throw people off the trail?

He even mentioned maybe adding CB too...which fits the speculation about letting Jason Allen go and finding a challenger for KJ???

I think we have TOO obvious of a need at WR and OL, and a bit at LB and CB, to the point that we'rre not really going to be able to fake out teams picking a dozen or so spots in front of us. People know what we want, they know what we NEED. When you're getting better, people can easily see what players you need the next year. When you suck, you need EVERYTHING!

So I think Rick is not playing mind games. OL or WR in the 1st round is the highest percentage to bet on, IMO. I'd stake 75% on OL and a mere 25% on WR...and that's only if a guy or two at WR slips too far. Such as for some whacked out reason Michael Floyd fell to the 20's and we decided to risk the farm on him by moving up to get him. I think he's a Top 10 pick, tbh. Will not last past #15 at the worst. We have no chance to get the best WRs, but the OL is deep for what we look for in those guys.
I think Texans are cool with Butler for this season and will draft an OG (regardless if it is a OT to convert) 3rd round or later.

Fleener first round 60% (maybe after a trade down); OLB in second round 90% and first WR 3rd round or later 75%. Unless Zeitler falls to #58 I think we get our OG in 4th. Remember Caldwell played on two injured ankles & should be better than we saw.
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Looks like our hunch about targeting/focusing on OL, WR, and LB (as depth) is being proven true by Smith's comments here. He said exactly that.

It'll be OL in the first round, guys. I'm calling it now. The outright release of Winston while at the same time NOT cutting Jacoby Jones is the telling sign for us going for OL at pick #26.

There'll be a Duane Brown guy there, a guy likely not that high on the boards of the so-called national draftniks, who fits the Kubiak style. The Riley Rieff kid from Iowa, or maybe the Cordy Glenn kid. Someone in that sort of capacity, a mauler who is big and mobile and adaptable.

Kubiak will pick his guy and hunker down for WR or LB in round 2.
Agree with you about OL over WR. Even though I would like to see Hill @ 26 if he's available. Speaking of picking D.Brown, I would feel much better if HOF Gibbs was making the pick like he did with D.Brown.

The rest of the press confrence was just hyperbole.We're looking at trades/players we drafted last yr are great/going to be great. The scouts have done an incredible job. etc.... typical Rick speak. The proof will be in the pudding. Starting with the draft Thursday night and more importantly how much the Reeds/Harris of the world improve next yr. In addition to how much the draft picks contribute.

According to C-N-D there's no way to know at this time if Schaub is going to be ready for the begining of the season. So when I read that I knew Rick was blowing more smoke up the fanbase collective butts.
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Agree with you about OL over WR. Even though I would like to see Hill @ 26 if he's available. Speaking of picking D.Brown, I would feel much better if HOF Gibbs was making the pick like he did with D.Brown.

The rest of the press confrence was just hyperbole.We're looking at trades/players we drafted last yr are great/going to be great. The scouts have done an incredible job. etc.... typical Rick speak. The proof will be in the pudding. Starting with the draft Thursday night and more importantly how much the Reeds/Harris of the world improve next yr. In addition to how much the draft picks contribute.

According to C-N-D there's no way to know at this time if Schaub is going to be ready for the begining of the season. So when I read that I knew Rick was blowing more smoke up the fanbase collective butts.
Rick is merely sticking to the script about Schaub. That script was made by Rick and Bob and Gary, and they've made sure everyone sticks to the script.

Those guys are good; none of them will crack...and if anybody cracks, it was approved by one of the top guys (By Bob or Rick or whatever). Everything is calculated. To the point that even when they're being honest, you think they're not, and then they do what they said they were going to do...and then you can't know if what you're hearing IS the truth or not. It's all part of their game.

And yes, I think they're THAT dedicated to that shroud of secrecy that they'd work THAT hard at it. Because they damn sure never spent the preceding years looking for better d-coordinators and doing actual work that would've helped faster. LOL.
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saying in the past we havent drafted for need is BS .... LOL

i can name off the top of my head on all the pro bowlers we have missed on

Big ben rothesburger

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Rick is merely sticking to the script about Schaub. That script was made by Rick and Bob and Gary, and they've made sure everyone sticks to the script.
Thats not true .... Schaub will be ready barring furter injury.


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UPDATE: transcript here. Video here. Cliffnotes below.


Excerpts from twitter:


Smith at podium: Says he applauds efforts of scouting/coaching staff. Feels better about this process than in years past.

"The work is done and the board is set."

We have to look at OL group, can help ourselves at WR position, and depth in LB corps. Plus "You can always add corners."

We'll have a quality football player available at 26th pick.

Successful last yr in Draft/Free Agency/On field last year. Reason why: we executed. Went in prepared and we executed.

Impressed w depth in draft this year w WR/OL/LB positions.

this time last yr, none of our LB's had played in the position they wound up playing. Succeeded bc of @sonofbum (Wade Phillips), Herring, scouts.

To have that season under @sonofbum has helped everyone. We're further along now. Always need LB help.

Last yr we were fortunate to get @Brooksreed42. Still think he can get better. Also think @HarrisNOFLYZONE will help us win.

Restricted free agency has never been a strong market for improvement.

I spend next day and a half calling around and asking other GM's about potential trades. Most moves happen when you're on clock, tho

We're talking to K Neil Rackers about coming back. K/P are also part of thought process in draft, but few are ever drafted.

Very confident in @MSchaub8 rehab process. Working hard, looking good, and on schedule.

Gotta love how he pretty much tells everybody what positions we are going to focus on (every GM/scouting staff has probably analyzed and identified our need positions) but then talks about how he is impressed with the depth at the same positions. Coincidence...no.

Few K/P are ever drafted = We are drafting a K. I would bet money that they are zoned in on Bullock.
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Smith at podium: Says he applauds efforts of scouting/coaching staff. Feels better about this process than in years past.

"The work is done and the board is set."

We have to look at OL group, can help ourselves at WR position, and depth in LB corps. Plus "You can always add corners."

We'll have a quality football player available at 26th pick.

Successful last yr in Draft/Free Agency/On field last year. Reason why: we executed. Went in prepared and we executed.

Impressed w depth in draft this year w WR/OL/LB positions.

this time last yr, none of our LB's had played in the position they wound up playing. Succeeded bc of @sonofbum (Wade Phillips), Herring, scouts.

To have that season under @sonofbum has helped everyone. We're further along now. Always need LB help.

Last yr we were fortunate to get @Brooksreed42. Still think he can get better. Also think @HarrisNOFLYZONE will help us win.

Restricted free agency has never been a strong market for improvement.

I spend next day and a half calling around and asking other GM's about potential trades. Most moves happen when you're on clock, tho

We're talking to K Neil Rackers about coming back. K/P are also part of thought process in draft, but few are ever drafted.

Very confident in @MSchaub8 rehab process. Working hard, looking good, and on schedule.

Well nice try Rick, fatty just wrote that we are looking at Bullock (I believe this) and that Rackers is going to the Redskins. When I read where Rick said that few kickers are ever drafted I thought, "Rick, is that the best you can do?" I doubt we wait until round 7 to draft Bullock considering we have nobody. Maybe he is really pulling a fast one on everybody and has someone else in mind but I doubt it. Every GM has to be thinking well if we want Bullock we got to jump ahead of the Texans. Wish he would have said we have our eyes on a couple of kickers something a little less weak.
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Well nice try Rick, fatty just wrote that we are looking at Bullock (I believe this) and that Rackers is going to the Redskins. When I read where Rick said that few kickers are ever drafted I thought, "Rick, is that the best you can do?" I doubt we wait until round 7 to draft Bullock considering we have nobody. Maybe he is really pulling a fast one on everybody and has someone else in mind but I doubt it. Every GM has to be thinking well if we want Bullock we got to jump ahead of the Texans. Wish he would have said we have our eyes on a couple of kickers something a little less weak.
Agree but I do like how he stated that he will spend the next day and a half talking to other GMs about trades. That shows me he at least is trying to do something creative.
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Well nice try Rick, fatty just wrote that we are looking at Bullock (I believe this) and that Rackers is going to the Redskins. When I read where Rick said that few kickers are ever drafted I thought, "Rick, is that the best you can do?" I doubt we wait until round 7 to draft Bullock considering we have nobody. Maybe he is really pulling a fast one on everybody and has someone else in mind but I doubt it. Every GM has to be thinking well if we want Bullock we got to jump ahead of the Texans. Wish he would have said we have our eyes on a couple of kickers something a little less weak.
I don't care if a kickers drafted in the 6th/7th..Rarely will the result of that pick provides more value to a team than a top ten kicker anyways..
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I don't care if a kickers drafted in the 6th/7th..Rarely will the result of that pick provides more value to a team than a top ten kicker anyways..
I want the Texans to draft Bullock, I have him mocked in the 6th. I just wish Rick would have been a little more coy.
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I want the Texans to draft Bullock, I have him mocked in the 6th. I just wish Rick would have been a little more coy.
I honestly think he's being sincere and not putting much priority on the kicker position. He has Bullock and # XXX on his board and if he's there in the 6/7th with and is the highest guy on our board then we'll take him. If not, then we'll look elsewhere for a kicker.
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