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Old 03-27-2012   #1
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Where do you think that we will draft an OLB? Out of all the positions this has become the most difficult for me to mock. Thoughts, opinions, insight...thanks.
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I like Bruce Irvin at the end of the second round...

I think he'd be a good compliment to what we have...

I like a bunch of the OLB's though, but I think some of them will go earlier than expected and there really isn't one that I like at #26
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I really like Irvin a lot. He has some skills that you just can't teach. The only thing is that he dropped out of high school due to his involvement in the street life per the national football post. That probably means that he dropped out to sell drugs. He did get his life turned around but a day after his pro day he got arrested for breaking a sign at a Jimmy John's Sandwich Shop. This just screams of idiot to me and is why I have a hard time seeing us drafting him.
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I like Bruce Irvin at the end of the second round...

I think he'd be a good compliment to what we have...

I like a bunch of the OLB's though, but I think some of them will go earlier than expected and there really isn't one that I like at #26
The more I look at 3-4 OLB in this draft, the less I like the position. I don't see any top flight pass rushers in this group. No Orakpos or Aldon Smiths. The pass rusher with the most potential is Irvin. But he is raw with all sorts of red flags. The Texans already have an Irvin type player in Braman.

I like Ronnell Lewis as a football player, but he is limited as strictly a speed rusher and may be too small to play every down in the 3-4 base. I wouldn't want the Texans to take an OLB in the first 2 days of this draft. In the 4th round, there should still be guys available that are worth taking a chance on.
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The more I look at 3-4 OLB in this draft, the less I like the position. I don't see any top flight pass rushers in this group. No Orakpos or Aldon Smiths. The pass rusher with the most potential is Irvin. But he is raw with all sorts of red flags. The Texans already have an Irvin type player in Braman.

I like Ronnell Lewis as a football player, but he is limited as strictly a speed rusher and may be too small to play every down in the 3-4 base. I wouldn't want the Texans to take an OLB in the first 2 days of this draft. In the 4th round, there should still be guys available that are worth taking a chance on.
I agree with this. Overall I think the 2012 draft is a poor one in terms of pass rushers be it 3-4 or 4-3, it's just not a good year. Any OLB we take will be a depth player so I agree, no OLB depth until the third day of the draft, probably the 4th round.
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The more I look at 3-4 OLB in this draft, the less I like the position. I don't see any top flight pass rushers in this group. No Orakpos or Aldon Smiths. The pass rusher with the most potential is Irvin. But he is raw with all sorts of red flags. The Texans already have an Irvin type player in Braman.

I like Ronnell Lewis as a football player, but he is limited as strictly a speed rusher and may be too small to play every down in the 3-4 base. I wouldn't want the Texans to take an OLB in the first 2 days of this draft. In the 4th round, there should still be guys available that are worth taking a chance on.
That is just about the same thing I think. The only guy I look at and think he has a chance to be a 10+ sack guy is Marcellus Whitney and he has not put 2 good years together. Bruce Irvin does not seem like a 3 down player at this point and time and he likes to destroy signs at Jimmy John's Sandwich Shop a day after his pro day. That to me is about like a guy who can't stop smoking weed before the biggest job interview of his life when he knows he will have to pee in a cup. Not at all impressed with this class of rush linebackers.
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Where do you think that we will draft an OLB? Out of all the positions this has become the most difficult for me to mock. Thoughts, opinions, insight...thanks.
If Wright is #26 then Ronnell Lewis #58.
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#26.) Nick Perry, USC
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#26.) Nick Perry, USC
Perry could probably work but not as strong as Curry.
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I think Brooks Reed and Connor Barwin are the starters at OLB, and don't think we'll address OLB depth until the 3rd or 4th round. I really like Nick Perry, but just don't see OLB as our biggest need.
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I think Brooks Reed and Connor Barwin are the starters at OLB, and don't think we'll address OLB depth until the 3rd or 4th round. I really like Nick Perry, but just don't see OLB as our biggest need.
This is why Hightower would be a smart pick. Starting ILB then if something happens to either Brooks or Barwin he could move to OLB & Sharpton could take over inside. Not to mention multiple looks with different blitz packages especially inside as well outside. With the money paid to these players with cap constraints its a good idea to have the versatility to cover a multitude of positions, the more you can play the more valueable you are to your team.
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I think Brooks Reed and Connor Barwin are the starters at OLB, and don't think we'll address OLB depth until the 3rd or 4th round. I really like Nick Perry, but just don't see OLB as our biggest need.
I think Texans have used a policy of selecting players who can play more than one position and Hightower can do that.
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I think Brooks Reed and Connor Barwin are the starters at OLB, and don't think we'll address OLB depth until the 3rd or 4th round. I really like Nick Perry, but just don't see OLB as our biggest need.
Pass rushers are always a need. That is why we drafted JJ Watt when we had Mario and Antonio and that is why the Giants drafted Jason Pierre-Paul when they had Umenyiora and Tuck
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This is why Hightower would be a smart pick. Starting ILB then if something happens to either Brooks or Barwin he could move to OLB & Sharpton could take over inside. Not to mention multiple looks with different blitz packages especially inside as well outside. With the money paid to these players with cap constraints its a good idea to have the versatility to cover a multitude of positions, the more you can play the more valueable you are to your team.
Completely agree here. Would not complain at all with a Hightower pick up I don't think. About to watch some clips. Brb.
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The more I look at 3-4 OLB in this draft, the less I like the position. I don't see any top flight pass rushers in this group. No Orakpos or Aldon Smiths. The pass rusher with the most potential is Irvin. But he is raw with all sorts of red flags. The Texans already have an Irvin type player in Braman.

I like Ronnell Lewis as a football player, but he is limited as strictly a speed rusher and may be too small to play every down in the 3-4 base. I wouldn't want the Texans to take an OLB in the first 2 days of this draft. In the 4th round, there should still be guys available that are worth taking a chance on.
I agree with all of that. Though I really like the potential of a few guys like Irvin and Lewis.

I like the specialized skills they bring. Irvin would give us great speed rushing the passer and Lewis would bring a toughness.

Plus they have the potential to blossom outside of their specialty areas.

But you are right, both would be somewhat of risks in their own way.
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This is why I could see McClellin or Wagner as the 2nd rd pick. They are much better values than Hightower or Perry in the 1st. IMHO

I'm thinking McClellin may go to the Packers in the 1st though. He would make a great bookend to Matthews. I would be for using a 4/5th to trade up for McClellin in the 2nd. He fits what the Texans front 7 is all about. (intensity) McClellin can play Ryans spot as well as rush the passer off the edge.

Wagner can do many of the same things, but is not Quite as good off the edge. Both of these guys are well worth 2nd rd picks. IMHO
When I watch Mcclellin I feel like he's going to be JAG in the NFL.

Not saying he won't be good, but I don't know if he will have that awe factor.

Not even saying I wouldn't take him. Just saying that I think there a more talented players that will be Available though he is probably a safer pick than most.
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When I watch Mcclellin I feel like he's going to be JAG in the NFL.

Not saying he won't be good, but I don't know if he will have that awe factor.

Not even saying I wouldn't take him. Just saying that I think there a more talented players that will be Available though he is probably a safer pick than most.
I see McClellin on the low end as a brooks reed type guy.

High end, he could be a Lamar Woodley/Harrison/Vrabel type guy.

I do know he gives all out effort every play and would fit in very well with the Texans style of hard nosed front 7.
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I see McClellin on the low end as a brooks reed type guy.

High end, he could be a Lamar Woodley/Harrison/Vrabel type guy.

I do know he gives all out effort every play and would fit in very well with the Texans style of hard nosed front 7.
I have changed my mind on him and I posted it in another thread. I think you are right.
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