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Old 03-09-2012   #1
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NFL has suspended Texans punter Brett Hartmann for 4 games for violating substance abuse policy. Got credit 4 1 n playoffs.
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Default Re: Brett Hartmann suspended

According to Mark Berman,

"He served one during the playoffs. Hartmann has to serve 3 more".

So looks as if the first 3 games of the season, it's back to Matt Turk or other.
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Hmmm, wonder what substance?
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Hmmm, wonder what substance?
THEN... what I want to know is... did he test positive before or after his injury?
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Cushing, Brown, Hartmann...

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Wth...

So now we need a replacement for Rackers and Hartmann.
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So now we need a replacement for Rackers and Hartmann.
Turk didn't do too bad when he came back for us last year, so my guess is we keep him on the roster.
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THEN... what I want to know is... did he test positive before or after his injury?
That would be an interesting question to have asked and answered.
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All those guys use performance/'roid drugs.
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That would be an interesting question to have asked and answered.
"Both John McClain of the Houston Chronicle and Mark Berman of Fox 26 in Houston have the report.

Hartmann was injured reserve at the end of the season, and the penalty came down during the Texans playoff push. He technically served the first game of his four-game suspension for the playoff loss in Baltimore."

Looks like it was to speed up his recovery, sense he failed it during the playoff
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I just saw it's from Wimpy, er Pancackes. Wonder if he's even right?
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Ritalin? Wow.

So Ritalin boosts performance? I always figured it just helped a guy with ADD to not annoy the hell out of everyone around him.

Seems a bit harsh to put Ritalin on the PED list.
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Ritalin? Wow.

So Ritalin boosts performance? I always figured it just helped a guy with ADD to not annoy the hell out of everyone around him.

Seems a bit harsh to put Ritalin on the PED list.
I'm sure stuff like pseudophed is on the list, too. When I was competing, I was amazed at the stuff I couldn't take and that was just the AAU. Besides the stuff that actually boosts performance, a lot of compounds can give you false positives for other things so you have to stay away from that stuff, too.
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Ritalin? Wow.

So Ritalin boosts performance? I always figured it just helped a guy with ADD to not annoy the hell out of everyone around him.

Seems a bit harsh to put Ritalin on the PED list.
I don't agree with it being on the PED list and think if he had a prescription for it the NFL should have considered a warning. Kids are starting to snort it in massive doses and even inject it with what they claim are cocaine like effects which also to my knowledge would have no performance enhancing effect.
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Ritalin is most commonly prescribed to children with Attention Deficit Disorder, but the effects of Ritalin on adults are usually quite different from the effects on children. Ritalin is sometimes prescribed to treat depression, for instance, because it has overt stimulative effects that is in opposition to the calming effects the drug has on hyperactive kids. Paradoxically, when used by adults, Ritalin actually creates a feeling of hyperactivity. It's stimulative effects are very much amphetamine-like, commonly leading to weight loss, insomnia, tremors, anxiety, high blood pressure, fast heart rate. There is good reason that this would be a banned substance in an adult NFL player.
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Ritalin is most commonly prescribed to children with Attention Deficit Disorder, but the effects of Ritalin on adults are usually quite different from the effects on children. Ritalin is sometimes prescribed to treat depression, for instance, because it has overt stimulative effects that is in opposition to the calming effects the drug has on hyperactive kids. Paradoxically, when used by adults, Ritalin actually creates a feeling of hyperactivity. It's stimulative effects are very much amphetamine-like, commonly leading to weight loss, insomnia, tremors, anxiety, high blood pressure, fast heart rate. There is good reason that this would be a banned substance in an adult NFL player.

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Ritalin is most commonly prescribed to children with Attention Deficit Disorder, but the effects of Ritalin on adults are usually quite different from the effects on children. Ritalin is sometimes prescribed to treat depression, for instance, because it has overt stimulative effects that is in opposition to the calming effects the drug has on hyperactive kids. Paradoxically, when used by adults, Ritalin actually creates a feeling of hyperactivity. It's stimulative effects are very much amphetamine-like, commonly leading to weight loss, insomnia, tremors, anxiety, high blood pressure, fast heart rate. There is good reason that this would be a banned substance in an adult NFL player.
So Doc - given that it appears Ritalin would not be a legitimate treatment of adult ADHD, is depression the likely condition that an adult taking it would be treating, or are there other legitimate uses in adults?
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I'm sure stuff like pseudophed is on the list, too. When I was competing, I was amazed at the stuff I couldn't take and that was just the AAU. Besides the stuff that actually boosts performance, a lot of compounds can give you false positives for other things so you have to stay away from that stuff, too.
Ah, I see. Makes sense now.

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Ritalin is most commonly prescribed to children with Attention Deficit Disorder, but the effects of Ritalin on adults are usually quite different from the effects on children. Ritalin is sometimes prescribed to treat depression, for instance, because it has overt stimulative effects that is in opposition to the calming effects the drug has on hyperactive kids. Paradoxically, when used by adults, Ritalin actually creates a feeling of hyperactivity. It's stimulative effects are very much amphetamine-like, commonly leading to weight loss, insomnia, tremors, anxiety, high blood pressure, fast heart rate. There is good reason that this would be a banned substance in an adult NFL player.
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So Doc - given that it appears Ritalin would not be a legitimate treatment of adult ADHD, is depression the likely condition that an adult taking it would be treating, or are there other legitimate uses in adults?
I forgot it has opposite effects upon adults. Thanks, CnD.

And I'm with ChampionTexan here: Is there any other reason an adult would need Ritalin, other than for fighting depression?
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