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Old 03-02-2012   #1
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from a Wisconson (packer) source...Love the fact that in some cases the scout speaks far from the public line.

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Talk about divergent opinions on a player, look at this write up on Robert Griffin (from link above):

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Robert Griffin*, QB, Baylor: 6-2˝, 223. "He's phenomenal," one scout said. "He's going to need technique work and fundamentals. I have no problem about that. But you cannot lose the fact that he's got feet, touch downfield with accuracy, a strong arm. He's charismatic and smart as (expletive)." Played and started all four years, but had his '09 season cut short by a knee injury requiring reconstructive surgery. Finished with an NFL passer rating of 110.1. "He cannot play quarterback," another scout said. "He's just running around winging it. He has no idea how to play quarterback. He's got no vision. He's got no accuracy. No touch. Anything you look for in an NFL quarterback, he doesn't have it. You want him to run around and throw the ball and just keep running, he can do that. He's (Michael) Vick, but not as good a thrower."
From "phenomenal" to "cannot play quarterback". The truth is likely somewhere in between, though I think Griffin is a better passer than Vick coming out of college #faintpraise.
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Talk about divergent opinions on a player, look at this write up on Robert Griffin (from link above):


From "phenomenal" to "cannot play quarterback". The truth is likely somewhere in between, though I think Griffin is a better passer than Vick coming out of college #faintpraise.
Wow that second scout gets paid for his opinion?
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I think one of the most important traits a quarterback can have is the ability to throw while on the run (when the pocket collapses). IMO, Robert Griffin III is probably better at it than Andrew Luck from what I have seen. What say you?
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At least I know I'm not crazy when I put both Luck and RG III below Keenum in term of QB prowess.

Both of these guys need to learn how to play the postition better.

I kid you not, Yates played the position better than Luck (but one was a Sr. and one was a Jr) their last year in college (in pretty much the same WCO).

The way RG III ran around in college, he will get hurt in the NFL.
The NFL coaches should be smart about it (one hopes).

They need to learn to read coverage better; they need to locate the open receiver sooner (1/8 of a second makes a big difference in the NFL.)

Let's say, for example, if RG III (who ran a very similar system that Keenum did) was able to do the things Keenum did; he would have blown away all the passing records just the same and still managed to make all those plays with his legs.

Both of these guys are much much better athletes than Keenum, but they aren't on the same level of QBacking - at least not yet.

And as I've said, they both seem to be pretty smart.
It's just a matter of whether they can put it all together or not.
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At least I know I'm not crazy when I put both Luck and RG III below Keenum in term of QB prowess.

Both of these guys need to learn how to play the postition better.

I kid you not, Yates played the position better than Luck (but one was a Sr. and one was a Jr) their last year in college (in pretty much the same WCO).

The way RG III ran around in college, he will get hurt in the NFL.
The NFL coaches should be smart about it (one hopes).

They need to learn to read coverage better; they need to locate the open receiver sooner (1/8 of a second makes a big difference in the NFL.)

Let's say, for example, if RG III (who ran a very similar system that Keenum did) was able to do the things Keenum did; he would have blown away all the passing records just the same and still managed to make all those plays with his legs.

Both of these guys are much much better athletes than Keenum, but they aren't on the same level of QBacking - at least not yet.

And as I've said, they both seem to be pretty smart.
It's just a matter of whether they can put it all together or not.
what do you think about the negative criticism Keenum is getting for his combine performance?
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