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Old 03-01-2012   #1
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NFL mock draft: Memphis' massive, highly athletic Dontari Poe moves into top 10

With the Scouting Combine in the rear-view mirror, it’s time to adjust our mock to reflect players who helped or hurt themselves in Indianapolis. It is important to never drastically change a player's grade based on how he works out in shorts and a T-shirt, but the player workouts can help break some ties and help figure out which system a player may be best suited for.

An excellent example is Memphis defensive tackle Dontari Poe, who was viewed as only a nose tackle before working out at the Combine. But after he showed shocking initial quickness and all-around athleticism for a huge man (6-3˝, 346 pounds), we’re confident he can also play defensive tackle in a 4-3 scheme. As a result, we moved him into the top 10 for the first time (Carolina at No. 9).

On the other hand, LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers did not show the explosiveness and smooth athleticism throughout his workout, which raises concerns about his ability to be an effective gap-shooting defensive tackle. We feel Brockers (6-5, 322) is better suited to a role as a two-gap defensive tackle in a 4-3 scheme or a nose tackle in a 3-4 scheme. Based on his Combine performance, Brockers dropped a couple of spots in the mock (to Kansas City at No. 11).

For now, Sporting News' first-round pick projections, barring expected trades (*—underclassman):


1. Indianapolis Colts: Andrew Luck*, QB, Stanford. With the new regime in place, it is clear they want to get their quarterback of the future, and we are very confident Andrew Luck will be the guy.

2. St. Louis Rams: Matt Kalil*, OT, USC. The Rams mostly likely will trade this pick to the highest bidder for Robert Griffin III. But if something happens that causes the Rams to stay put, they will take Kalil to shore up their offensive line and protect Sam Bradford's blind side.

3. Minnesota Vikings: Justin Blackmon*, WR, Oklahoma State. The Vikings would prefer to take Kalil because they badly need an upgrade at offensive tackle. But with Kalil gone, they grab Blackmon—who can be Christian Ponder’s go-to receiver—rather than reach for an offensive tackle.

4. Cleveland Browns: Robert Griffin III*, QB, Baylor. If no one can work out a trade to go up and get Griffin—an unlikely scenario—the Browns would jump all over him with the No. 4 pick.

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Morris Claiborne*, CB, LSU. New coach Greg Schiano believes in a physical, playmaking scheme, so the Bucs jump at chance to grab the best cornerback in the draft and upgrade a defense that allowed the most points in the league.

6. Washington Redskins: Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M. Coach Mike Shanahan has always built his team around big, athletic quarterbacks with strong arms, and Tannehill fits that mold perfectly.

7. Jacksonville Jaguars: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame. If young quarterback Blaine Gabbert is going to develop, he needs weapons and Floyd has what it takes to be an impact receiver early in his career.

8. Miami Dolphins: David DeCastro*, G, Stanford. The Dolphins’ offensive line has struggled with consistency in recent seasons, and DeCastro could start at guard immediately. He showed at the Combine that he also might be able to handle playing right tackle, which would shore up a big problem for Miami.

9. Carolina Panthers: Dontari Poe*, DT, Memphis. Poe has been talked about primarily as a nose tackle, but after displaying elite athleticism at the Combine, the Panthers grab him to play tackle in their 4-3 scheme.

10. Buffalo Bills: Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina. With the Bills switching back to a 4-3 defense, they need to find players who can play end and Ingram has the pass-rush skills to be a good one.

11. Kansas City Chiefs: Michael Brockers*, NT, LSU. Brockers is an extremely strong, powerful tackle who can dominate with his strength at the point of attack. He has what it takes to be a good starting nose tackle.

12. Seattle Seahawks: Devon Still, DT, Penn State. With defensive linemen Raheem Brock and Red Bryant scheduled to be free agents, the Seahawks grab Still, who has the talent to start as a rookie and could fill Bryant's role if they lose him.

13. Arizona Cardinals: Jonathan Martin*, OT, Stanford. Arizona's offensive line has not protected the quarterback well in recent seasons, and Martin has the feet and elite athleticism to protect the blind side.

14. Dallas Cowboys: Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama. Jerry Jones has long shown a willingness to gamble on players with character concerns. With their dire need for a cornerback, the Cowboys take a shot with Jenkins, who was dismissed by Florida after three arrests in two years.

15. Philadelphia Eagles: Cordy Glenn, G/OT, Georgia. The Eagles’ offensive line was not dominant in 2011, and Glenn has the physical talent to start at guard or right tackle as a rookie.

16. New York Jets: Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina. The Jets’ edge pass rush needs to improve, and Coples could help them because he is an explosive pass rusher with the versatility to be productive from a down end spot or as an outside linebacker in the team’s 3-4 scheme.

17. Cincinnati Bengals (From Oakland): Trent Richardson*, RB, Alabama. The Bengals, who aren’t expected to re-sign Cedric Benson, get lucky when the top back in the draft slides to them.

18. San Diego Chargers: Peter Konz*, C, Wisconsin. Nick Hardwick could leave as a free agent and four-time Pro Bowl guard Kris Dielman is expected to retire, so the Chargers grab Konz to play one of those spots.

19. Chicago Bears: Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor. Despite his poor 40 time (4.61) at the Scouting Combine, Wright is considered the most explosive receiver in the draft and would stretch the field for the Bears' offense.

20. Tennessee Titans: Dre Kirkpatrick*, CB, Alabama. Cortland Finnegan is a free agent, and the Titans have shown a willingness to gamble on players like Kirkpatrick who have immense talent but off-field concerns.

21. Cincinnati Bengals: Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia. Nate Clements will be in his 13th season in 2012, and Leon Hall is coming off a season-ending Achilles’ tendon injury. The Bengals grab Boykin, whose explosive athleticism, ball skills and return ability give him the tools to make an immediate impact as a nickel cornerback and kickoff returner.

22. Cleveland Browns (from Atlanta): Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford. A young quarterback's best friend is a tight end who can be his short area safety valve. Fleener can provide that as well as big plays down the field for the Browns’ quarterback—whoever it is.

23. Detroit Lions: Nick Perry*, DE, USC. Kyle Vanden Bosch is 33 and Cliff Avril is a free agent—though the Lions likely will re-sign him or give him the franchise tag—so they grab Perry, a solid pass rusher.

24. Pittsburgh Steelers: Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama. Upshaw is not a premier, explosive athlete, but he is an outstanding power rusher and run defender who reminds us a lot of LaMarr Woodley. He would give the Steelers a good young outside linebacker to eventually replace James Harrison, who turns 34 in May.

25. Denver Broncos: Luke Kuechly*, MLB, Boston College. Current Broncos middle linebacker Joe Mays is not an elite player, and Kuechly would bring strength, athleticism and rare playmaking ability to the middle of the Broncos’ defense.

26. Houston Texans: Rueben Randle*, WR, LSU. Every year we say the Texans need to find a receiver to play opposite Andre Johnson, but usually there is not an elite one available when they draft. Randle is a strong, well-built receiver with the excellent acceleration to make big plays after the catch.

27. New England Patriots (from New Orleans): Whitney Mercilus*, OLB, Illinois. Mercilus' combination of outstanding strength, long arms, toughness against the run and great intangibles make him a perfect fit to play outside linebacker in the Patriots’ scheme.

28. Green Bay Packers: Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson. The Packers' offense is amazing, but their defense struggled in 2011 and Thompson is a strong, powerful defensive lineman who would fit as an end in the Packers' 3-4 scheme.

29. Baltimore Ravens: Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State. Bryant McKinnie is not the long-term answer at left tackle and Michael Oher struggled when he played on the left side in 2010. So the Ravens choose Adams, who is not an elite prospect but a good one with excellent height (6-7), long arms and competitiveness.

30. San Francisco 49ers: DeVier Posey, WR, Ohio State. The 49ers need a receiver to open up their offense, and Posey has good height (6-1 5/8) and the ability to run sharp routes and make tough catches. He would upgrade the 49ers’ offense immediately.

31. New England Patriots: Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia. The Patriots continue to upgrade their defense by grabbing Minnifield, whose athleticism, long arms and ball skills give him the tools to be successful in their system.

32. New York Giants: Dwayne Allen*, TE, Clemson. After losing Jake Ballard and Travis Beckum to ACL injuries in the Super Bowl, the Giants currently have no depth at tight end. Allen is the type of receiving tight end the Giants have lacked since they traded Jeremy Shockey.

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Good lord. When is this Dontari Poe crap gonna stop? Does nobody else see it?
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Good lord. When is this Dontari Poe crap gonna stop? Does nobody else see it?
& no Fletcher Cox
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Poe will fall by draft day. Just not sure how many spots. I can't see Washington using #6 on Tannehill; a trade down would be to their advantage or drafting another spot then going after QB in a trade up late first or earlier second.
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Good lord. When is this Dontari Poe crap gonna stop? Does nobody else see it?
We all see a work out warrior rocket up the charts every year. This seems to be Poe's year. Yeah, bah, a lot of folks see it. I don't see his game jumping up at the next level. I'd be surprised if I'm surprised here.

In regards to Ruben Randall, the more I see the more I like. But just like many have stated, when it comes to who the Texans select and where it more than likely be no one that's been touted here. JMO.
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That's a pretty bad mock draft. Poe to the Panthers would be laughable, but I would be happy with it as it pushes good players to my favorite teams.

I don't see the Browns going with at TE at 22. They got some young guys in Evan Moore, who looked like a capable starter last year, and Jordan Cameron who was a 4th round pick last year. Both of those guys are capable and should develop into at least decent TEs. TE just isn't a position of need right now for the team, WR, RB, DE, LT, #2 CB and OLB are needs. Any one of those could be addressed instead.

Boykin at 21 seems insanely high. Did I miss something, or when did he get upgraded from a 3rd round pick?
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That's a pretty bad mock draft. Poe to the Panthers would be laughable, but I would be happy with it as it pushes good players to my favorite teams.

I don't see the Browns going with at TE at 22. They got some young guys in Evan Moore, who looked like a capable starter last year, and Jordan Cameron who was a 4th round pick last year. Both of those guys are capable and should develop into at least decent TEs. TE just isn't a position of need right now for the team, WR, RB, DE, LT, #2 CB and OLB are needs. Any one of those could be addressed instead.

Boykin at 21 seems insanely high. Did I miss something, or when did he get upgraded from a 3rd round pick?
Id prefer Cox or Barron there instead
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Top 100 NFL draft prospects: Robert Griffin III moves to No. 1

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Pro days offer players who struggled at the recent Scouting Combine a chance to improve their draft stock in front of NFL evaluators. It's also an opportunity for those who choose to not work out in Indianapolis to show their skills.

In addition, players who were not invited to the Combine get a chance to make a case for next month's draft as Miami (Ohio) guard Brandon Brooks did last week.

Coming out of Indianapolis, two elite quarterback prospects stand out—Robert Griffin III and Andrew Luck—for their remarkable overall skills, intelligence and intangibles.

After seeing Griffin measure over 6-2 at the Combine to ease any concerns about his size, the former Baylor quarterback moves up to No. 1 in our latest player rankings.

The player rankings below are based on how successful we believe they will be in the NFL, not how high or low they might be drafted.

1. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor

2. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford

3. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU

4. Matt Kalil, OT, Southern Cal

5. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama

6. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State

7. Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina

8. David Decastro, OG, Stanford

9. Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College

10. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

11. Devon Still, DT, Penn State

12. Cordy Glenn, G, Georgia

13. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M

14. Michael Brockers, DT, LSU

15. Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama

16. Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State

17. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina

18. Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford

19. Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor

20. Doug Martin, RB, Boise State

21. Rueben Randle, WR, LSU

22. David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech

23. Mychal Kendricks, LB, California

24. Nick Perry, DE, Southern Cal

25. Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford

26. Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin

27. Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia

28. Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State

29. Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama

30. Brandon Thompson, NT, Clemson

31. Juron Criner, WR, Arizona

32. Zach Brown, LB, North Carolina

33. Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall

34. Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina

35. Sean Spence, LB, Miami (Fla.)

36. Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama

37. Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia

38. Chris Polk, RB, Washington

39. Nigel Bradham, LB, Florida State

40. Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State

41. Dontari Poe, NT, Memphis

42. Amini Silatolu, G, Midwestern State

43. Billy Winn, DE, Boise State

44. Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson

45. Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame

46. Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State

47. Mark Barron, S, Alabama

48. Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington

49. Bruce Irvin, DE, West Virginia

50. Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas
51. Lamar Miller, RB, Miami (Fla.)
52. Chris Givens, WR, Wake Forest
53. Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
54. Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticut
55. Lavonte David, LB, Nebraska
56. Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
57. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
58. Markelle Martin, S, Oklahoma State
59, Devier Posey, WR, Ohio State
60. Dwight Bentley, CB, Louisiana-Lafayette
61. Shaun Prater, CB, Iowa
62. LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
63. Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
64. Marquis Maze, WR, Alabama
65. Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
66. Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina
67. Keshawn Martin, WR, Michigan State
68. Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati
69. Danny Coale, WR, Virginia Tech
70. Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama
71. Ronnie Hillman, RB, San Diego State
72. Tydreke Powell, DT, North Carolina
73. Blake Dechristopher, OT, Virginia Tech
74. Jaye Howard, DT, Florida
75. A.J. Jenkins, WR, Illinois
76. Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California
77. Dont'a Hightower, MLB, Alabama
78. B.J. Cunningham, WR, Michigan State
79. Kevin Zeitler, G, Wisconsin
80. Donnie Fletcher, CB, Boston College
81. Jaymes Brooks, G, Virginia Tech
82. Nick Jean-Baptiste, NT, Baylor
83. Jeremy Lane, CB, Northwestern State
84. Kelechi Osemele, OT, Iowa State
85. Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin
86. Patrick Edwards, WR, Houston
87. Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
88. Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida State
89. Antonio Allen, S, South Carolina
90. Cam Johnson, DE, Virginia
91. Devon Wylie, WR, Fresno State
92. Ryan Lindley, QB, San Diego State
93. Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
94. Brandon Brooks, G, Miami (Ohio)
95. Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina
96. Mike Martin, DT, Michigan
97. Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma
98. Jeff Allen, OT, Illinois
99. Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse
100. Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State

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