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Old 02-26-2012   #1
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Usually Alan Burge has this covered but a new name emerged during the combine that is worthy of mention as Texans address a #2 WR. If Kendall Wright is off the board by Texans selection #26 I might suggest Hill as a draft riser @ WR position who has both size 6-4 215, speed 4.36 body control & soft hands.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/090...module=HP11_cp

He also specializes in a whole different category, blocking, that we all know Texans covet. Hill was mostly asked to block in Georgia Tech's triple-option offense. As a blocker, Hill is outstanding, consistently locating, controlling, moving, and pancaking smaller DBs, and more than holding his own against LBs. Hill, despite high hips, bends his knees, uses good technique, and has good range and power blocking.

Seems like clean, well spoken individual who easily buys into team concept. He would bring not only speed on the outside he would lift the roof on coverage's & open up routes for Andre, other receivers/TE's. 29.3 yards per catch average. Those yards per catch are no joke either, I looked up his numbers, as a freshmen 22.83, sophomore 19.4.

Bottom Line: Big play specialist, every down WR because of blocking skill set, in other words might just be perfect compliment to Andre Johnson.

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Usually Alan Burge has this covered but a new name emerged during the combine that is worthy of mention as Texans address a #2 WR. If Kendall Wright is off the board by Texans selection #26 I might suggest Hill as a draft riser @ WR position who has both size 6-4 215, speed 4.36 body control & soft hands.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/090...module=HP11_cp

He also specializes in a whole different category, blocking, that we all know Texans covet. Hill was mostly asked to block in Georgia Tech's triple-option offense. As a blocker, Hill is outstanding, consistently locating, controlling, moving, and pancaking smaller DBs, and more than holding his own against LBs. Hill, despite high hips, bends his knees, uses good technique, and has good range and power blocking.

Seems like clean, well spoken individual who easily buys into team concept. He would bring not only speed on the outside he would lift the roof on coverage's & open up routes for Andre, other receivers/TE's. 29.3 yards per catch average. Those yards per catch are no joke either, I looked up his numbers, as a freshmen 22.83, sophomore 19.4.

Bottom Line: Big play specialist, every down WR because of blocking skill set, in other words might just be perfect compliment to Andre Johnson.

Because of the system he would be a project. In this type of situation it's valuable to keep a guy like Walter around if you draft Hill. It's going to be an adjustment going to a pro style offense where he's exposed to running a complete route tree. His big play potential is too big to ignore. He's one of those guys where you'll probably see just about every team at his pro day where they can focus solely on his route running. It would have been even more awesome to see him in the Senior Bowl running these routes instead of against air, but I'm with you that the guy is worth a look.
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I saw his combine performance and He looks legit. He may vault Randle and Jeffery to become the 4th best WR prospect.
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The NFL draft process is fluid, always keep options open. There are so many dynamics in play, in Stephen Hills case it may be just system he played in? While he may not have developed the route tree you'd like the fact that he learned how to block is exceptionally under-rated skill set, not tested @ the combine. He is fluid, assimilated drills quickly & showcased soft hands, plucking ball away from body suggesting a true sleeper pick @ a position Texans need help in.
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The NFL draft process is fluid, always keep options open. There are so many dynamics in play, in Stephen Hills case it may be just system he played in? While he may not have developed the route tree you'd like the fact that he learned how to block is exceptionally under-rated skill set, not tested @ the combine. He is fluid, assimilated drills quickly & showcased soft hands, plucking ball away from body suggesting a true sleeper pick @ a position Texans need help in.


from the combine web site.

WEAKNESSES Hill's value is based purely off his ability as a deep threat. He has average quickness and moves off the line of scrimmage to avoid a jam. He ran a very basic route tree at Georgia Tech that didn't allow him to showcase many skills. Outside of catching jump balls, he struggles to read coverages and understand how to find holes in a zone. Hill looks uncomfortable with the ball in his hands and resembles a lengthy track star on the field instead of a football player. He dropped as many big balls as he made big plays; his YPC stat defines him perfectly as a player who is capable of making flash plays but isn't reliable.


The forty time is impressive but the body of work in college is not. There is major risk in taking this type player. has alot of the same qualities that JJ had coming out. Is a high risk, high reward type that would not touch until the 3rd round.
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WEAKNESSES Hill's value is based purely off his ability as a deep threat. He has average quickness and moves off the line of scrimmage to avoid a jam. He ran a very basic route tree at Georgia Tech that didn't allow him to showcase many skills. Outside of catching jump balls, he struggles to read coverages and understand how to find holes in a zone. Hill looks uncomfortable with the ball in his hands and resembles a lengthy track star on the field instead of a football player. He dropped as many big balls as he made big plays; his YPC stat defines him perfectly as a player who is capable of making flash plays but isn't reliable.


The forty time is impressive but the body of work in college is not. There is major risk in taking this type player. has alot of the same qualities that JJ had coming out. Is a high risk, high reward type that would not touch until the 3rd round.
I did not see any weakness in his performance, of course its just the combine, but he ran the drills fluidly without hesitation. You can't compare him to a slot receiver either, what I'm suggesting is the system ran @ GT dictated his role even though each year his numbers progressively improved. Remember he is only a Junior. He also followed in the footsteps of Demaryius Thomas who followed Calvin Johnson. Which tells me recruiting wise they do a pretty good job developing bigger, faster WR's with good hands.
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I did not see any weakness in his performance, of course its just the combine, but he ran the drills fluidly without hesitation. You can't compare him to a slot receiver either, what I'm suggesting is the system ran @ GT dictated his role even though each year his numbers progressively improved. Remember he is only a Junior. He also followed in the footsteps of Demaryius Thomas who followed Calvin Johnson. Which tells me recruiting wise they do a pretty good job developing bigger, faster WR's with good hands.
I watched him more than once and I'm telling you that he is capable of making spectacular plays at times. The problem is he drops more passes than he makes big plays. He disappears for long stretches and sometimes entire games. He has serious potential. that is why I compare him to Jacoby.
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WEAKNESSES Hill's value is based purely off his ability as a deep threat. He has average quickness and moves off the line of scrimmage to avoid a jam. He ran a very basic route tree at Georgia Tech that didn't allow him to showcase many skills. Outside of catching jump balls, he struggles to read coverages and understand how to find holes in a zone. Hill looks uncomfortable with the ball in his hands and resembles a lengthy track star on the field instead of a football player. He dropped as many big balls as he made big plays; his YPC stat defines him perfectly as a player who is capable of making flash plays but isn't reliable.


The forty time is impressive but the body of work in college is not. There is major risk in taking this type player. has alot of the same qualities that JJ had coming out. Is a high risk, high reward type that would not touch until the 3rd round.
I'm thinking the same thing.

But.. he's what, 6-4 & ran a 4.3...... that's insane. That's Randy Moss.

However, I don't know if we have the tools behind center to take advantage.

There aren't many highlights of him on YouTube, but what I saw, I didn't see anyone try to jam him on the line. The gave him space & he was still able to get to any spot on the field he wanted....
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I'm thinking the same thing.

But.. he's what, 6-4 & ran a 4.3...... that's insane. That's Randy Moss.

However, I don't know if we have the tools behind center to take advantage.

There aren't many highlights of him on YouTube, but what I saw, I didn't see anyone try to jam him on the line. The gave him space & he was still able to get to any spot on the field he wanted....
TK, he can't consistently make the catch. PASS! You're giving up Jacoby for a rookie Jacoby 2.0. Stop it already, he hasn't been on draft boards for a reason!
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WEAKNESSES Hill's value is based purely off his ability as a deep threat. He has average quickness and moves off the line of scrimmage to avoid a jam. He ran a very basic route tree at Georgia Tech that didn't allow him to showcase many skills. Outside of catching jump balls, he struggles to read coverages and understand how to find holes in a zone. Hill looks uncomfortable with the ball in his hands and resembles a lengthy track star on the field instead of a football player. He dropped as many big balls as he made big plays; his YPC stat defines him perfectly as a player who is capable of making flash plays but isn't reliable.


The forty time is impressive but the body of work in college is not. There is major risk in taking this type player. has alot of the same qualities that JJ had coming out. Is a high risk, high reward type that would not touch until the 3rd round.
This, this, this.

As a Georgia Tech fan I have seen a bunch of Hill. He has no problem getting downfield and has the size you'd love. But, he simply cannot catch the ball.

He's the quintessential workout warrior who will be overdrafted because of his combine numbers and will bust in the NFL.

I would not touch him with a 10-foot pole.
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I took notice when I saw that 4.3 forty. I wanted to see him in the catching drills, but missed them.

Is he plucking the ball with his hands? Routes look ok? How about catching, turning, & exploding?
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So I guess, WR prospects situation may go down like the following.

Blackmon Top 5
Floyd Top 20
Randle, Hill, Streeter Late 1st to eary 2nd?
Quick, Toon, McNutt 2nd to 3rd

Jeffery and Fuller didn't run so don't know where they fit.

Devon Wylie for our kick/punt return specialist?
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I took notice when I saw that 4.3 forty. I wanted to see him in the catching drills, but missed them.

Is he plucking the ball with his hands? Routes look ok? How about catching, turning, & exploding?
He looks pretty good in one portion of the drills that I saw.
He was attacking the ball really well.
i've got a bunch of game tapes on him; I guess I'll start pulling them out.
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He looks pretty good in one portion of the drills that I saw.
He was attacking the ball really well.
i've got a bunch of game tapes on him; I guess I'll start pulling them out.
Yes, please do.

Knock is he never ran/learned a route tree -- just streaks/slants. And he can't separate off the line, had some drops. How long will his learning curve be???
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A buddy of mine who does a great job with the draft has been talking this guy up for a month. He's very similar to thomas. Thing is, who can get the ball to him?
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A buddy of mine who does a great job with the draft has been talking this guy up for a month. He's very similar to thomas. Thing is, who can get the ball to him?
Good point, but a good problem to have.
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Watched 2 Stephen Hill games last night (UNC, CLEM). Baller. Stands out as best player on field when involved. Way better RAC than expected.
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http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/090...module=HP11_cp

He also specializes in a whole different category, blocking, that we all know Texans covet. Hill was mostly asked to block in Georgia Tech's triple-option offense. As a blocker, Hill is outstanding, consistently locating, controlling, moving, and pancaking smaller DBs, and more than holding his own against LBs. Hill, despite high hips, bends his knees, uses good technique, and has good range and power blocking.

Seems like clean, well spoken individual who easily buys into team concept. He would bring not only speed on the outside he would lift the roof on coverage's & open up routes for Andre, other receivers/TE's. 29.3 yards per catch average. Those yards per catch are no joke either, I looked up his numbers, as a freshmen 22.83, sophomore 19.4.

Bottom Line: Big play specialist, every down WR because of blocking skill set, in other words might just be perfect compliment to Andre Johnson.

No no no no for the love of god NO! Please do not draft this kid. He is so inconsistent it kills. He's dropped more open passes than anyone I can recount. 49 career catches, probably 49 career drops. He's terrible.

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