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Old 02-15-2012   #1
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1. Indianapolis Colts: QB Andrew Luck

2. St. Louis Rams: WR Justin Blackmon

3. Minnesota Vikings: OT Matt Kalil

4. Cleveland Browns: QB Robert Griffin III

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: RB Trent Richardson

6. Washington Redskins: CB Morris Claiborne

7. Jacksonville Jaguars: DE Quinton Coples

8. Carolina Panthers: DT Michael Brockers

9, Miami Dolphins: OT Riley Reiff

10. Buffalo Bills: LB Courtney Upshaw

11. Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Kuechly

12. Seattle Seahawks: DE Melvin Ingram

13. Arizona Cardinals: OT Jonathan Martin

14. Dallas Cowboys: S Mark Barron

15. Philadelphia Eagles: DT Fletcher Cox

16. New York Jets: G Cordy Glenn

17. Cincinnati Bengals: CB Dre Kirkpatrick

18. San Diego Chargers: WR Michael Floyd

19. Chicago Bears: OT Mike Adams

20. Tennessee Titans: DE Whitney Mercilus

21. Cincinnati Bengals: G David DeCastro

22. Cleveland Browns: WR Kendall Wright

23. Detroit Lions: CB Janoris Jenkins

24. Pittsburgh Steelers: DT Dontari Poe

25. Denver Broncos: DT Devon Still

26. Houston Texans: DT Jerel Worthy

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27. New England Patriots: OLB Vinny Curry

28. Green Bay Packers: S Harrison Smith

29. Baltimore Ravens: C Peter Konz

30. San Francisco 49ers: WR Rueben Randle

31. New England Patriots: DT Kendall Reyes

32. New York Giants: TE Dwayne Allen
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I thought Devon Still was generally considered a top 10-15 pick? If it fell like this I'd rather see Konz in a Texans uni...
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I thought Devon Still was generally considered a top 10-15 pick? If it fell like this I'd rather see Konz in a Texans uni...
Still has been falling since the senior bowl. I would love Konz but he is no Worthy!
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It would be a reach to move Jerel Worthy to play a position he is not familiar with. This mock falls apart to me quickly, not a big fan of his scouting abilities.
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Agree with Beerlover's post.
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Still has been falling since the senior bowl. I would love Konz but he is no Worthy!
They play different positions....and Konz is best OC in the draft. Worthy isn't the best DL by a wide margin.
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If we don't sign Mario, Curry should be considered.
If we don't sign Myers, Konz shouldn't be passed up.
If Decastro is there, I say we take him if Myers is re-signed, regardless of what else happens.
If Michael Floyd is there, I say we take him, but only if Konz and Decastro are gone.

Lots of contingencies to consider, but we will have a much better idea by the end of March.
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If we don't sign Mario, Curry should be considered.
If we don't sign Myers, Konz shouldn't be passed up.
If Decastro is there, I say we take him if Myers is re-signed, regardless of what else happens.
If Michael Floyd is there, I say we take him, but only if Konz and Decastro are gone.

Lots of contingencies to consider, but we will have a much better idea by the end of March.
I don't understand the line of thinking that we should draft a DE in the first round if we loose Mario. Why? I love Decastro, there aren't a lot of players I would take in front of him. If we loose Meyers we better draft Konz. I'm not sold Smithiak thinks like all the fans and the media about our WR situation. I really hope the early portion of our draft goes to adding talent to our trenches be it OL or DL.

Foster is incredible, we need to give him the best blocking possible while he is still young and at the top of his game. RB's don't last that long. With the way our defense flies around the ball we need major depth and talent in our front seven. As long as we see to it that those two things are taken care of we will be in good shape.
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If we don't sign Mario, Curry should be considered.
If we don't sign Myers, Konz shouldn't be passed up.
If Decastro is there, I say we take him if Myers is re-signed, regardless of what else happens.
If Michael Floyd is there, I say we take him, but only if Konz and Decastro are gone.

Lots of contingencies to consider, but we will have a much better idea by the end of March.
As I think a good OG can be taken in 2nd, I'd take Wright or Floyd (if Texan would sign him due to off field issues).
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They play different positions....and Konz is best OC in the draft. Worthy isn't the best DL by a wide margin.
LOL I know who they are and what position they play. I guess my attempt at word play didn't workout like I thought it would. Also, what do positional rankings have to do with the price of butter in China?



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It would be a reach to move Jerel Worthy to play a position he is not familiar with.
Like it was when we drafted JJ Watt who played 4/3 DE and started him at DE in our 3/4? Worthy's best attribute is his ability to penetrate. At 6'3" and 310 lbs with his explosive burst at the snap he could play inside or out in our defense. He is vocal and plays with alot of emotion. Can be real nasty but is has a high football IQ. He's known for pointing out things like hot receivers and run plays to team mates before plays.

If somehow he is still available when we're up at 26 we should run up to the podium. He fits this defense in so many ways its scary.

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This mock falls apart to me quickly, not a big fan of his scouting abilities.
I'm wondering about your scouting abilities after that last comment.

So where do you think this mock falls apart and why?
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LOL I know who they are and what position they play. I guess my attempt at word play didn't workout like I thought it would. Also, what do positional rankings have to do with the price of butter in China?
No it didn't. Just seemed like you thought they were comparable.
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Like it was when we drafted JJ Watt who played 4/3 DE and started him at DE in our 3/4? Worthy's best attribute is his ability to penetrate. At 6'3" and 310 lbs with his explosive burst at the snap he could play inside or out in our defense. He is vocal and plays with alot of emotion. Can be real nasty but is has a high football IQ. He's known for pointing out things like hot receivers and run plays to team mates before plays.

If somehow he is still available when we're up at 26 we should run up to the podium. He fits this defense in so many ways its scary.
Worthy is no 3-4 DE. He did not play similar position either @ Michigan State. Now if Texans played in a 4-3 & needed a one gap DT that would be different. To compare him to Watt is inaccurate, nor does he fit NG or played that position either. Not a fit here.

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I'm wondering about your scouting abilities after that last comment.
I've seen worse but c'mon he is supposed to be the authority or are you actually..... Mel? taking my comments personel?

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I'm not a fan of Mel Kiper, and I dislike his scouting even more. Last year he said we would take a receiver first, knowing our needs on defense.
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