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Old 01-09-2012   #1
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I am just curious why he has not been getting any carries it seems like to me. I have seen him in the game on special teams but not really running the football. Tate and Foster both rock but Ward would keep both of them fresh and look at how many running backs New Orleans uses during their games. Any thoughts? I am just wondering but not complaining about it. Thanks.
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Why trot your third string RB out in the playoffs when your 1st and 2nd string 4 down backs are healthy?
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Why trot your third string RB out in the playoffs when your 1st and 2nd string 4 down backs are healthy?
Yep, you rest starters FOR the playoffs, not IN the playoffs.
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It's hard enough getting enough carries for Tate as it is. Ward has played well when called in, but he has Tate and Foster in front of him and we need those guys out there in the playoffs Gary.
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Default Re: Should Derrick Ward Get More Carries?

I could see him getting 3-5 carries per game but any more than that would probably be a stretch.
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Ward's a good RB, I'd give him a few carries per game just to take some of the load off of Foster and Tate but in the playoffs you go with your best man and that's Foster.
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Default Re: Should Derrick Ward Get More Carries?

The simple answer is that foster is better down-in, down-out RB back than any of the Saints RB. He did not look like he needed rest in the 4th quarter the last game.
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Default Re: Should Derrick Ward Get More Carries?

No, I am a firm believer of guys getting a groove for the game and getting stronger as they go on. Foster, AND to an extent Tate, are exactly that. They start off kind of then BOOM just explode as the defense wears down. And when Foster is not in the groove Tate has been. IF both were playing crappy in the game, THE MAYBE, just maybe consider Ward, but if it were me, I would just continue to roll Foster out there because he is an elite player and elite players makes things happen when the times get tough.....
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Default Re: Should Derrick Ward Get More Carries?

Juses, I am just talking about a few carries if you have him use him.
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I am just curious why he has not been getting any carries it seems like to me. I have seen him in the game on special teams but not really running the football. Tate and Foster both rock but Ward would keep both of them fresh and look at how many running backs New Orleans uses during their games. Any thoughts? I am just wondering but not complaining about it. Thanks.
The thing about New Orleans, is that they have 3 different style running backs. Since they all bring something different to the table, the OC finds ways to get them in the game.

Foster pretty much does everything. Tate is a close second, also very well rounded. Ward, while a good back, doesn't bring anything new to the table.

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Juses, I am just talking about a few carries if you have him use him.
If you're not going to like the answer, you shouldn't ask the question?
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The thing about New Orleans, is that they have 3 different style running backs. Since they all bring something different to the table, the OC finds ways to get them in the game.

Foster pretty much does everything. Tate is a close second, also very well rounded. Ward, while a good back, doesn't bring anything new to the table.



If you're not going to like the answer, you shouldn't ask the question?
Because there is no need to think that I want Ward to start.
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Default Re: Should Derrick Ward Get More Carries?

The only reason would be if Tate or Foster got overwhelmed. Your 3rd string RB stays on the bench. If Foster had continued to fumble and jump offsides, then maybe you think about it, but no.
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Default Re: Should Derrick Ward Get More Carries?

So no one agrees with me and that is fine to each their own.
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If all goes to plan right now, Ward will only see special teams from here on out. Foster is a hoss and Tate does a damn good impression of one. Ward is a solid option at #3 but I think it would be a bit of a dilemma if he sees even one carry for the rest of the season. It's not Ward, he's good. It's Foster and Tate. They're better.
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Yes, they are better but I still think all three should be used but I am not angry either.
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Yes, they are better but I still think all three should be used but I am not angry either.
Gary, whilst I can't agree with giving Ward any real game-time given the context that we're heading into the divisional playoffs (to me, like everyone else it seems, you just don't take your #1 & #2 out of the game unless it becomes necessary).

That said, this is something I do think should have happened more in the regular season, Ward should have been getting a few reps a game when healthy, to slightly lower the number of reps on the other 2 guys. He also should have been getting loads of reps in blowouts where we were just running the clock and seeing out the 4th quarter.

That said, when I'm complaining about the lack of use our 3rd string running back has had, I must be pretty freaking content!!
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Should Derrick Ward Get More Carries?
You are probably right. He should be carrying more helmets and shoulder pads.

While I like Ward as a player, as long as Foster and Tate are healthy, Ward is a nice insurance policy.
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Both Foster and Tate could take 70% or more of the carries, and both do everything as good or better than Ward, depending on exactly what it is. That leaves -40% of the carries for Ward...

I don't think it's gonna happen.

Ward is a darn good player to have as a last resort though, and I do appreciate him being there just in case we need him. I'm sure he believe he could be a starter somewhere and....meh, he might be right. He'd be a lot better than some of the starters we've had in the past.

Gary, I think you're just feeling sympathetic. I'm sure he's compensated well.
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Both Foster and Tate could take 70% or more of the carries, and both do everything as good or better than Ward, depending on exactly what it is. That leaves -40% of the carries for Ward...

I don't think it's gonna happen.

Ward is a darn good player to have as a last resort though, and I do appreciate him being there just in case we need him. I'm sure he believe he could be a starter somewhere and....meh, he might be right. He'd be a lot better than some of the starters we've had in the past.

Gary, I think you're just feeling sympathetic. I'm sure he's compensated well.
i dunno man, i like the way ward runs. He is a no B.S runner, he says juke em, F it i will run em over haha. And he is very slippery without trying to be. I think Ward would be a good change of pace back for the play offs. Use all ur tools especially in the play offs. IMO
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i dunno man, i like the way ward runs. He is a no B.S runner, he says juke em, F it i will run em over haha. And he is very slippery without trying to be. I think Ward would be a good change of pace back for the play offs. Use all ur tools especially in the play offs. IMO
This. He is already getting paid anyway.
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