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Old 12-26-2011   #1
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Default Kubiaks top Priority Sunday: Beat Titans or rest Starters for W-C Playoff game ?

To me it's a no-brainer in what is now a basically a meaningless game from the Texans perspective - pull the starters early, sometime in the first half, so they are reasonable fresh for the big playoff game the next Sunday in Reliant. Plus the less they are on the field the less likely they get injured in a game which means nothing to us.
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Default Re: Kubiaks top Priority Sunday: Beat Titans or rest Starters for W-C Playoff game ?

In our situation I disagree. We are brutal on offense and they need to get another game under their belts with yates at the helm. You play to win this game (injuries are a part of the game, you don't coach scarred). Our secondary needs to show they are back to form, basically the whole team NEEDS more game time together....
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Win Sunday with the starters all the way if necessary. I would not want to go into the playoffs with three straight losses.
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Win Sunday with the starters all the way if necessary. I would not want to go into the playoffs with three straight losses.
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Win Sunday with the starters all the way if necessary. I would not want to go into the playoffs with three straight losses.
Here's the problem with that. The players know this game is meaningless in regards to the playoffs. Kubiak can't play mind games and convince them otherwise. The starters will be concerned about injury. The reserves will actually play harder, knowing this is a chance for them ti shine on tape. The Texans best chance of winning this game might be with the backups.
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Default Re: Kubiaks top Priority Sunday: Beat Titans or rest Starters for W-C Playoff game ?

Be selective. Allow players like Caldwell, Tate, Ward, B/up QBs, Bryant Johnson etc get reps. Rest your Cushings, Ryans, etc.
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Default Re: Kubiaks top Priority Sunday: Beat Titans or rest Starters for W-C Playoff game ?

I think we need some moooooo--mentum.

Kubiak oughtta be breathing fire down the necks of these guys.

I'm okay with resting/protecting as needed, but I'd prep the entire team as if we're going to war.

Put a skirt on the Titans and send them home for the winter.
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Here's the problem with that. The players know this game is meaningless in regards to the playoffs. Kubiak can't play mind games and convince them otherwise. The starters will be concerned about injury. The reserves will actually play harder, knowing this is a chance for them ti shine on tape. The Texans best chance of winning this game might be with the backups.
Agree with all of these points, plus when Lucky jogged our memories about the "season-ending" injury @ Reliant a couple years ago to the Patriots Welker. Can you just imagine the heat Kubiak would take if a really key player like Andre, or Jonahan Joseph, or Duane Brown blew out a knee in the second-half of this weekends meaningless game ? And how badly his team would miss that player a week later in it's first playoff game, the most meaningful game the franchise will have played to that point in its history ?
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Default Re: Kubiaks top Priority Sunday: Beat Titans or rest Starters for W-C Playoff game ?

Seeing how the Titans are still alive for a playoff spot, I say you rid yourself of them when you have a chance. Step on their throats and squash them like a bug.
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Default Re: Kubiaks top Priority Sunday: Beat Titans or rest Starters for W-C Playoff game ?

They'll be playing on a short week more than likely.

Play them a half. I want TEN out too, but still.
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Seeing how the Titans are still alive for a playoff spot, I say you rid yourself of them when you have a chance. Step on their throats and squash them like a bug.
This.

It gives this game more "play-off atmosphere" than we've had all year. It's good practice & winning is a habit.. a rhythm. We need to get back in that rhythm.
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It gives this game more "play-off atmosphere" than we've had all year. It's good practice & winning is a habit.. a rhythm. We need to get back in that rhythm.
I think we've already had a "regular season playoff atmosphere" game. It happened up in Cincy when the division was still up for grabs and the Titans were breathing down our necks and the Bengals were trying to hold on to the final WC spot. Next week's game won't equal that game or even the Falcons game for that matter. We're already locked into our spot..we can't do any better or any worse than where we are at now and the players know that.
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For the most part I agree with you, but there is the rare exception.. Next week's NY and Dallas game WILL BE a playoff game with a playoff atmosphere. The only time this takes place is when both teams have something on the line.
Right. I'm only referring to this game, and from a Texan perspective. That the coaches and fans can stir up fake playoff atmosphere for this game that's meaningless for the Texans is pure fantasy.

That doesn't mean the Texans can't win this game, folks. The reserves could very well play harder than the starters would. And the Titans could play tight with the playoffs on the line. Resting starters doesn't automatically add an L in the standings.
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You play to win this game (injuries are a part of the game, you don't coach scarred).
Really ? A game which will change nothing about our #3 seed for the playoffs and is about as meaningful as a preseason exhibition game ? If there was nothing to gain by holding out players, especially key players like a Cushing who is "beat-up" by his own HCs admission, I'd play them but getting them well and having them rested for the 17th game of the season is top priority.
In the long offseason nobody will be talking about what the Texans did in the last regular season game of the year because all they will be talking about what our playoff performance was. I say play this game like its the last preseason game of the year as we get ready for our season-opener, ah our playoff-opener.
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Default Re: Kubiaks top Priority Sunday: Beat Titans or rest Starters for W-C Playoff game ?

I'm okay with either scenario (play starters the whole game or half) and I kinda lean toward letting them play but...the field is gonna suck due to the college game the day prior so the chances of loosing someone (see AJ) is higher.

The field is the X-factor in my mind...that's what I'm most nervous about.
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This is preseason for the postseason. Get the starters out early. And, the Titans would be a dream opponent for the Texans initial playoff game.

Remember when Belichick got cute in '09 finale here, and Welker wiped out his knee in a meaningless game? Kubiak surely does.
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We are so short handed that you won't be able to pull the starters per se. I do think resting Arian would be a good idea and conversely, I'd really like Andre to get some more time on the field with Yates.
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Last I checked, there were 16 regular season games... so you play them. Honestly? I'd like to bench our defense and intentionally allow the Titans to score as quickly as they can, one play-90 yard TDs. Give our offense as many reps as they can possibly get.
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This is preseason for the postseason. Get the starters out early. And, the Titans would be a dream opponent for the Texans initial playoff game.

Remember when Belichick got cute in '09 finale here, and Welker wiped out his knee in a meaningless game? Kubiak surely does.
Wasn't that in the first qtr? Maybe even their first possession.
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Wait!!! I thought that scheduling division games at the end of the season was supposed to stop all of this resting players stuff?
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