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Old 12-18-2011   #1
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Anyone hear Shockey's post game comments? He said we had about 12 players crossing their arms during the Anthem before the game.

He went on and on about it.

Funny thing is, this isn't the first time this has been brought up.
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Anyone hear Shockey's post game comments? He said we had about 12 players crossing their arms during the Anthem before the game.

He went on and on about it.

Funny thing is, this isn't the first time this has been brought up.
Although it's kind of annoying coming from Shockey, if I were Mr. McNair I would correct this.
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Although it's kind of annoying coming from Shockey, if I were Mr. McNair I would correct this.
I agree! It's been reported more than once, twice, three times.

Having had a kid in the Navy and knowing how much they respect that flag, brings it home a little more for me.
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Meh. So what? You aren't required to have your hand over your heart for the national anthem. One of the things about living in the US.
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Meh. So what? You aren't required to have your hand over your heart for the national anthem. One of the things about living in the US.
So What? Really? So What? You aren't required to say "Yes Sir" or "Yes Ma'am" to your parents either but if you have a single ounce of respect for your parents YOU DO say these things.

I feel pity for you!
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It's tradition to place your hand over your heart when reciting the Pledge of Allegience, not the singing of the National Anthum. Us old schoolers were probably brought up to do both, out of respect for the flag, but, this day and age, most of our kids are not taught to do either. I know this because I fussed at my grandkids for not putting their hand over their hearts during the National Anthum, MANY times, and they always told me, it's not the Pledge so they don't have to. Do I agree? NO! It's called RESPECT, and that word alone has become a word with no meaning.
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So What? Really? So What? You aren't required to say "Yes Sir" or "Yes Ma'am" to your parents either but if you have a single ounce of respect for your parents YOU DO say these things.

I feel pity for you!
Does it bother you that much that I don't feel the need to force a certain viewpoint or way of thinking or way of doing something on another person?

How much do you know about me that you can "feel pity for" me? I'm curious.

Edit: Oh hey Jaysol...interesting stuff about how it came about. I didn't see your post at first.
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I agree! It's been reported more than once, twice, three times.

Having had a kid in the Navy and knowing how much they respect that flag, brings it home a little more for me.
Shockey needs to


I respect the job our armed forces do ...

That said I believe our govt mis-uses them. All these "Wars" and for what ?
These wars arent about suppressing plans of world domination from people like Hitler , General Hideki Tojo or the Viet Cong .... We have since dismantled Democratic Govt's and replacing them with dictatorships ..... Fighting for natural resources , not democracy .... Fighting for special interest groups in America to profit off of the blood of our children.


Im not all that proud of this country right now .... 9% unemployment , debt up to our eyeballs in reported govt debt of $15trillion .... but the truth is we are $116trillion in debt.

A govt that is begining to rival that of Mexico in its corruption .....


Kids dont even say the pledge in school anymore ..... and we wonder why that flag and what it represents isnt as respected as it once was.
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First I've heard of this. What is this all about?
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First I've heard of this. What is this all about?
We (the team) have been called out by not standing "at full attention" during the National Anthem several times.

Shockey went on this evening about how it's disrespectful, blah, blah, blah.

Problem is, he's RIGHT! Never in a straight line, never at full attention.

As someone who gets a little misty eyed every time (I am a girl after all) they play that anthem, it bugs me.
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As someone who gets a little misty eyed every time (I am a girl after all) they play that anthem, it bugs me.
I'm pretty sure this isn't a gender-specific phenomenon. My allergies always seem to flare up when the National Anthem gets played. It's the damndest thing...

I believe in every American's right to act however the hell they want during the National Anthem, but not people that represent my business interests. I agree that McNair should put his foot in someone's ass over this.
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Jeremy Shockey had a reason for his obnoxious (un-penalized) taunting after his touchdown reception on Sunday. Or at least a reason he gave reporters.

Apparently, the Carolina tight end thought the host Texans didn’t show proper respect toward America in the pregame festivities.

Shockey told reporters that he was upset some of the Texans did not place their hands on their hearts during the National Anthem before the Panthers’ 28-13 victory at Reliant Stadium.

Shockey scored on a 9-yard touchdown pass from Cam Newton in the second quarter. He broke tackles by DeMeco Ryans and Jason Allen to reach the end zone, then got in their faces and taunted them.

It gave the Panthers a 14-0 lead in their 28-13 victory.
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Anyone hear Shockey's post game comments? He said we had about 12 players crossing their arms during the Anthem before the game.

He went on and on about it.

Funny thing is, this isn't the first time this has been brought up.
When else did this go down in the past? And screw Shockey.
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When else did this go down in the past? And screw Shockey.
I love how that post reads..

I agree with the rest, though. If true they need to correct the problem, and I do believe it should be considered a problem. And screw Shockey.
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I don't have a problem with it. They're allowed to stand anyway they want during the anthem.
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I don't have a problem with it. They're allowed to stand anyway they want during the anthem.
Agree, if a person wants to be a disrespectful ass during the anthem, it is indeed their right. No disrespect or sarcasm intended there, Sam. Just the way I feel.
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Default Re: Shockey calls out Texans - they don't love America!

He also called Demeco, "Demario Ryans, or whatever."
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Luv ya Kimmy.

But as US citizens, we have the right to disagree with our government. Personally, I don't think the Texans players are making a political statement here, they're just being football players. Most of whom are making a thousand times as much as they would if they had to actually work for living. This is much ado about nothing as I see it.
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Luv ya Kimmy.

But as US citizens, we have the right to disagree with our government. Personally, I don't think the Texans players are making a political statement here, they're just being football players. Most of whom are making a thousand times as much as they would if they had to actually work for living. This is much ado about nothing as I see it.
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I agree, as much as it is their right not to respect the flag, it's as much my right to be annoyed by it.

It didn't really bother me till my daughter entered the Navy. We were lucky enough to attend a "tiger cruise" on her carrier. Watching all those soldiers stop and salute the flag before they came aboard really changed my way of thinking
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I agree, as much as it is their right not to respect the flag, it's as much my right to be annoyed by it.

It didn't really bother me till my daughter entered the Navy. We were lucky enough to attend a "tiger cruise" on her carrier. Watching all those soldiers stop and salute the flag before they came aboard really changed my way of thinking
You're required to when you cross the quarterdeck. This includes quarterdecks that are ashore.

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