Is this still a playoffs or else year for Kubiak

[Hagar]

With the injury to both Schaub and now Leinart, is Kubiak's 8-3 start enough to secure another season as Head Coach?

[ziggy29]

Originally Posted by Hagar

With the injury to both Schaub and now Leinart, is Kubiak's 8-3 start enough to secure another season as Head Coach?

Not if they finish 8-8 or 9-7 and the Tacks win the division. Not even with injuries as an excuse.

[fiasco west]

Nope.

I think Kubes has a free pass even if the team collapses (which I don't see happening any ways)

At least folks can stop saying that the Texans only won because the Colts missed Manning. We're doing alright without our starting QB.

[ATXtexanfan]

kubiak is safe

[houstonspartan]

No.

More.

Excuses.

Period.

The Texans are a Super Bowl-level team. Even if we tank the rest of the season and don't make the playoffs, another coach can come in here next season with this loaded roster and get us rolling.

Enough with the fear of changing coaches already. Look at San Francisco.

Regardless, we're getting ahead of ourselves. We are still in the hunt. Let's see how this plays out.

[HTown2ATX]

Originally Posted by houstonspartan

No.

More.

Excuses.

Period.

The Texans are a Super Bowl-level team. Even if we tank the rest of the season and don't make the playoffs, another coach can come in here next season with this loaded roster and get us rolling.

Enough with the fear of changing coaches already. Look at San Francisco.

Regardless, we're getting ahead of ourselves. We are still in the hunt. Let's see how this plays out.

I would totally agree with you using the 2000 Ravens and a putrid QB like Dilfer as an example. BUT, as bad ass as our D is, I can't say it is the level of that Ravens team........YET........we shall see as the season goes on.

I have been on the get of Kubes train for a while now, but that said, right now I think we are pretty much in the playoffs, which we will probably, if we had to honestly say now, are a 1 and done team since there will be no game against JAX or CLE in the playoffs, but who knows.

So, basically, when we had Schaub in there my expectations were more than just making the playoffs, now, I have been forced to downgrade them somewhat. So, final answer, we make the playoffs and Kubes is safe IMO and I have no beef with that.

[houstonspartan]

Originally Posted by HTown2ATX

I would totally agree with you using the 2000 Ravens and a putrid QB like Dilfer as an example. BUT, as bad ass as our D is, I can't say it is the level of that Ravens team........YET........we shall see as the season goes on.

I have been on the get of Kubes train for a while now, but that said, right now I think we are pretty much in the playoffs, which we will probably, if we had to honestly say now, are a 1 and done team since there will be no game against JAX or CLE in the playoffs, but who knows.

So, basically, when we had Schaub in there my expectations were more than just making the playoffs, now, I have been forced to downgrade them somewhat. So, final answer, we make the playoffs and Kubes is safe IMO and I have no beef with that.

At this point, I am not counting on anything. I am just playing wait and see.

What happens if ATL next week goes after TJ Yates and knocks him around? Then what? It's been THAT kind of year.

Assume nothing.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Hagar

With the injury to both Schaub and now Leinart, is Kubiak's 8-3 start enough to secure another season as Head Coach?

I'm sure Kubiak secured another season already. I don't particularly agree with that, but I don't see McNair cutting the cord after what we've been through.

Originally Posted by houstonspartan

No.

More.

Excuses.

Period.

The Texans are a Super Bowl-level team. Even if we tank the rest of the season and don't make the playoffs, another coach can come in here next season with this loaded roster and get us rolling.

Enough with the fear of changing coaches already. Look at San Francisco.

Regardless, we're getting ahead of ourselves. We are still in the hunt. Let's see how this plays out.

Kinda sorta agree. No more excuses & all, but damn.....

Imagine that Schaub isn't ready for opening day 2012. Then we've got Leinart & Yates. The QB is the cornerstone & continually looking for one is no way to bring in a new coach.

See if Cowher would be interested in Houston knowing Schaub is going to miss time next season & may not be himself ever again.

At the same time, I don't give Kubiak any better odds of succeeding given the same circumstance.

[ubecool454]

Originally Posted by Hagar

With the injury to both Schaub and now Leinart, is Kubiak's 8-3 start enough to secure another season as Head Coach?

Yes it is....the defense is winning for us now. We won't be scoring a lot of points like when Schaub was behind center but the defense is locking teams down too. On to the playoffs.......We are tied for the best record in the AFC and we still have fans that are thinking doomsday...tsk tsk

[burro]

Kubiak isn't getting fired if we make the playoffs, which only requires a win against Indy - and I'm all right with that, all things considered.

[houstonspartan]

The douches on 610 just said that, even if we lose out and don't go to the playoffs that Kubiak deserves a pass.

Good lord. Will fans in this town EVER have any f-----g standards?

[HTown2ATX]

Originally Posted by houstonspartan

The douches on 610 just said that, even if we lose out and don't go to the playoffs that Kubiak deserves a pass.

Good lord. Will fans in this town EVER have any f-----g standards?

Man, believe me, for years now I have been in the same boat you are expressing and so have a lot of us for that matter. But I really think this is a different situation.

Now, having said that, should the team just collapse or quit, than I'm ok with booting Kubiak.

But what I think most of us are saying is this is not the "same old Texans" and I really don't see a collapse coming. Probably lose a couple more games than I would want now, but I don't see a collapse. Should the team come out and just look totally unprepared and bone head plays are called, then I think you see more people gravitate to your way of thinking that many of us have had before.

[Dutchrudder]

I think Kubiak should keep his job this year regardless of the outcome from now on. The injuries to the team are immense but they have persevered. I can't be mad at him for much this year.

[Thorn]

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

I think Kubiak should keep his job this year regardless of the outcome from now on. The injuries to the team are immense but they have persevered. I can't be mad at him for much this year.

As much as I wanted Kubiak gone, I'm going to have to agree with this. When you lose your 1st and 2nd string QB, it's a tough road to climb out of for any coach or team. Luckly we still have Carolina and Indy on our schedule.

meh......at this point, we don't have a lot to debate about. We all know what's happening. All we can do is just watch the games and hope for the best. An 11-5 season is still not unreasonable if Yates responds to coaching. That's a big if, but still, it's possible.

[EllisUnit]

Originally Posted by Thorn

As much as I wanted Kubiak gone, I'm going to have to agree with this. When you lose your 1st and 2nd string QB, it's a tough road to climb out of for any coach or team. Luckly we still have Carolina and Indy on our schedule.

meh......at this point, we don't have a lot to debate about. We all know what's happening. All we can do is just watch the games and hope for the best. An 11-5 season is still not unreasonable if Yates responds to coaching. That's a big if, but still, it's possible.

Yates has it, i dont know what "IT" is but i see it in him.

[cuppacoffee]

Originally Posted by EllisUnit

Yates has it, i dont know what "IT" is but i see it in him.

Agreed.

I think we are going to be pleasently suprised next week.

Now need to sign another QB. Garcia?

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by cuppacoffee

Agreed.

I think we are going to be pleasently suprised next week.

This team has surprised the freak'n heck out of me all year long.

No reason next week should be any different.

[silentassassin]

Originally Posted by EllisUnit

Yates has it, i dont know what "IT" is but i see it in him.

I'm with you, even if we get dogged on for having no solid evidence or logical reason to believe it. I've let blind fandom take over at this point. I don't see any point for myself to feel discouraged or skeptical..

[noxiousdog]

Kubiak isn't a great head coach regardless of playoff appearances, injuries or anything else.

He might be good. He's certainly average. But he isn't great.

[houstonspartan]

Originally Posted by Thorn

As much as I wanted Kubiak gone, I'm going to have to agree with this. When you lose your 1st and 2nd string QB, it's a tough road to climb out of for any coach or team. Luckly we still have Carolina and Indy on our schedule.

meh......at this point, we don't have a lot to debate about. We all know what's happening. All we can do is just watch the games and hope for the best. An 11-5 season is still not unreasonable if Yates responds to coaching. That's a big if, but still, it's possible.

Sometimes life doesn't work out the way we want it. Sometimes things just happen to us, fair or not.

McNair has been more than fair to Kubak. He would be within his rights to fire Kukbiak if we don't make the playoffs. The guy has been more than patient.