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Everything seems positive with the Texans, now. Well, as positive as it can with 3 of their top players out with injuries. We're talking defensive rankings, Pro Bowls, and playoff seeding. That's right. Not just playoffs. Playoff seeding.

But, it's November 1st. And what no one's talking about is what happens to the Texans in November. They lose. A lot. 14 L's over 20 games during the Kubiak era. Gary is actually 4 games over .500 in all other months combined. And while no one is saying it, everyone is aware that the Texans entered November of 2009 and 2010 with winning records. We all know what happened after that.

Does this year feel different? Yes, it does. Enter Wade Phillips. Exit Peyton Manning. And don't forget Denny's new Baconalia menu. Gary loves it.



But why have the Texans struggled in November's past? My feeling is that the collars on Kirby just got a little tighter during this part of the season. That can't happen this year. Home for Cleveland, on the road to Tampa and Jacksonville. Two & one won't put them in the playoffs. But at least they can enter December at 7-4 and see the playoffs from there. And that's a far better sight than this big elephant we're looking at now.
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Is it me or does it feel like Gary this year has gotten rid of his scripted plays? We seem a LOT more effective on the first/second drives in the game this year.
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Is it me or does it feel like Gary this year has gotten rid of his scripted plays? We seem a LOT more effective on the first/second drives in the game this year.
The scripts just have been better.
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The scripts just have been better.
Execution has been better.

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Execution has been better.

Agreed.

This is a good thread. Besides that it's about football, I made a similar post about how the Texans never beat both Titans AND Jaguars in their first games, which are always back to back. Before this year, it ALWAYS broke the Texans back, led them to a losing streak like the one described here.

Except this year, they won both games, are atop the AFC South in dominating fashion and are now on to the easiest portion of their schedule. Oh and there's a bye week and to my knowledge we haven't lost a bye week yet lol....

Who is it, Cleveland, Tampa...a bye...and...the Bengals? Right?

That should be at least 2 wins, well, it SHOULD be 3. I'll take 7-4/8-3.
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Agreed.

This is a good thread. Besides that it's about football, I made a similar post about how the Texans never beat both Titans AND Jaguars in their first games, which are always back to back. Before this year, it ALWAYS broke the Texans back, led them to a losing streak like the one described here.

Except this year, they won both games, are atop the AFC South in dominating fashion and are now on to the easiest portion of their schedule. Oh and there's a bye week and to my knowledge we haven't lost a bye week yet lol....

Who is it, Cleveland, Tampa...a bye...and...the Bengals? Right?

That should be at least 2 wins, well, it SHOULD be 3. I'll take 7-4/8-3.
Haven't lost a bye week yet? How could you forget the string of heart breaking losses in 2009! We went to the colts and it came down to kris browns field goal to tie it up but he missed and we lost 17-20. Then the bye week. After the bye week we had a Monday night game against titans which we lost in the same way! It came down to a kris brown field goal to go to overtime but he missed and we lost 17-20!
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Who is it, Cleveland, Tampa...a bye...and...the Bengals? Right?

That should be at least 2 wins, well, it SHOULD be 3. I'll take 7-4/8-3.
Cleveland, @Tampa, bye, @Jags.....
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It either happens again or it doesn't. The history says we're going to pull a 1-4 in November but the history also says we should be sporting a defense ranked somewhere in the upper 20's right about now.

I'm trying to stay positive. This year we win in November for a change. With wins over the Titans and Jaguars we have a Cleveland team coming to town that we should be able to handle. This is another scenario we've all seen before. Cleveland has been on our plate more than once when we were supposed to be able to dominate them and instead we choked. I don't think we choke this season. I think we win.

Having said that I won't be impressed with a win over Cleveland. I expect a win over Cleveland. We're supposed to beat Cleveland at our house. The highest score the Texans can get against Cleveland (at least to me) is "Meets Expectations". To lose would be disastrous but I don't think we're going to lose. A three game win streak over these teams isn't impressive though. It's what should happen.

What I will be impressed with is a win the following week at Tampax Bay. If we can go there and stretch this to four wins against a respectable Buccaneer's team I'll be impressed. That's 7-3 and four games over .500. That's a different kind of Texans team right there.

Then after the bye week we start what passes for the remaining "tough" part of our schedule.
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What I will be impressed with is a win the following week at Tampax Bay. If we can go there and stretch this to four wins against a respectable Buccaneer's team I'll be impressed. That's 7-3 and four games over .500. That's a different kind of Texans team right there.
I agree with everything above, and especially this.

Winning on the road vs a team that isn't a pushover is a good start at being a good team. THAT is what confidence comes from. This team will start to become honestly confident when they start beating good teams on the road. I think we are finally on our way (that doesn't mean my fingers aren't crossed).
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I wasn't encouraged that on two separate 3rd and 1 situations we ran the ball right up the middle and got stuffed both times.

Any other game, vs. any other opponent and I think those two failed 3rd and 1 failures might lead to the other team taking advantage and scoring some sort of points. The Jags offense is so weak and anemic that they couldn't do anything with it. Other teams' offense might fare better with the two ensuing possessions off those failed 3rd & 1 plays of ours.

The Browns game, to me, feels like the Raiders game all over again. A team we should handle, without any sort of dynamic QB (McCoy is sorta' like Campbell), in our house, it just sort of spooks me a bit.

People are also dismissing Blount too easily, IMO. He is a bruiser. He has shift in his hips and sees the field and knows how to run. He's EXACTLY the kind of RB who could run wild on our 34 defense. Freeman is a mobile guy, a big guy too. This game scares me also.

The Jax game does not scare me in the least bit, not even with it being in Jax. This year, we sweep our divisional foes...but will it offset what I think will be failures against non-divisional opponents that I think COULD happen if we fall asleep and teams "get up" for the Texans????

I dunno. We will be either (A) 3-0 in November, (B) 2-1, or (C) 1-2. We won't be 0-3, but I can see us falling asleep on teams in Nov and being 2-1 or at worse 1-2. The Browns game is huge. It starts with that one.
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I know its really egotistical and koolaid filled for me to say it but with Cushing playing the way he is this season there isn't one running back in the NFL that really scares me. Ray Rice and MJD are two of the most premier backs in the NFL (top 5 at least) and we for the most part shut them down. I know Ray Rice got a few runs in on us but we took him out of the equation for a majority of the game.
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I wasn't encouraged that on two separate 3rd and 1 situations we ran the ball right up the middle and got stuffed both times.

Any other game, vs. any other opponent and I think those two failed 3rd and 1 failures might lead to the other team taking advantage and scoring some sort of points. The Jags offense is so weak and anemic that they couldn't do anything with it. Other teams' offense might fare better with the two ensuing possessions off those failed 3rd & 1 plays of ours.
I don't know that we don't pick up that yard against a lesser defense.

Gotta give them some credit. Kick our HC & OC in the gnads for calling the plays, especially after what we did vs Tennessee the week before. But that's a good defense & they did their job.

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People are also dismissing Blount too easily, IMO. He is a bruiser. He has shift in his hips and sees the field and knows how to run. He's EXACTLY the kind of RB who could run wild on our 34 defense. Freeman is a mobile guy, a big guy too. This game scares me also.
We've faced three of the best runners this year & did a pretty good job of it. DMC, Ray Rice, & MJD. Blount is just another, I'm not too worried about him. It's a team game & their team is going to have to beat our team, Blount won't do it alone, he's not that kind of back.
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The Jax game does not scare me in the least bit, not even with it being in Jax. This year, we sweep our divisional foes...but will it offset what I think will be failures against non-divisional opponents that I think COULD happen if we fall asleep and teams "get up" for the Texans????
They play Indy then Cleveland... They will be 5-6 when we see them in Jax. They beat Baltimore at home, on turnovers & pressuring the QB. They really don't have a bad loss on their schedule. We're not going to win out the rest of the season. It would be a mistake (imo) to sleep on the Jags at home.
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It's a strange thing to see a franchise trend like the Texans have for the past several seasons. The November curse, the 5-7 thing four years in a row, the tale of two halves as a running theme...

But this season does feel different. Our defense is making plays. They are disrupting rhythms, creating opportunities, and showing a passion that we have never seen from a Texans defense.

If they had hired another FOG (friend of Gary) as DC, I think the trend would continue. However, I honestly think Wade brings something to the franchise that balances out whatever it is that Gary does/does not do during the November stretch. And unless this franchise has been cursed by some mystical force and all that jazz, I think the defense will ultimately save the day and win at least 2 games in November.

A 7-4 record going into December would be historic for this franchise. It would be the first time in a decade for the Texans (and 17 years for Houston fans) that football mattered in December.

They just have to run the November gauntlet...
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If they had hired another FOG (friend of Gary) as DC, I think the trend would continue.
the FOG almost got Gary...probably would have with a less patient owner. Here's to no more FOG

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What I will be impressed with is a win the following week at Tampax Bay. If we can go there and stretch this to four wins against a respectable Buccaneer's team I'll be impressed. That's 7-3 and four games over .500. That's a different kind of Texans team right there.

Then after the bye week we start what passes for the remaining "tough" part of our schedule.
On top of that, a win in Jacksonville after the bye, making it a 5 game win streak would really be impressive.

Say what you will about the Jags, but we saw two turnovers at home that almost put them in the game. Plus our offense struggled with their D, this is exactly the kind of game the Texans would lose.

Should win, the Jags are still a bad team, mainly because of their offense.

But if the Texans can pull that off & be 8-3 coming home to play Atlanta, I don't see how anyone (any Texans fan) can not get behind this team.
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Nope. Still running scripted plays (as many teams do), but I have gotten the sense that the number of scripted plays has been cut by nealry 50%...

That's a good thing in that it allows you to adjust to what they're doing to you a lot sooner.
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Nope. Still running scripted plays (as many teams do), but I have gotten the sense that the number of scripted plays has been cut by nealry 50%...

That's a good thing in that it allows you to adjust to what they're doing to you a lot sooner.
Considering how many times we've come out and scored on our 1st drive this season, maybe we should script the whole damned game.
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Nope. Still running scripted plays (as many teams do), but I have gotten the sense that the number of scripted plays has been cut by nealry 50%...

That's a good thing in that it allows you to adjust to what they're doing to you a lot sooner.
Agreed I think at times that Gary is just a slow learner and is taking a lot longer to adjust to being the HC. This year I've seen somewhat more of a desperate or more risk taking approach to Gary that I seem to like..

Ughh did I just say that..
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Agreed I think at times that Gary is just a slow learner and is taking a lot longer to adjust to being the HC. This year I've seen somewhat more of a desperate or more risk taking approach to Gary that I seem to like..

Ughh did I just say that..
I think during the lockout that Gary took some kind of coaching course He doesn't seem to be as adamant about trying to fit a square play into a round game no matter how many times it fails. He doesn't seem to get as uptight about managing the clock either. Maybe Wade's aw shucks laid back attitude is contagious. I do know from watching him on the sidelines that he isn't the same Gary Kubiak we've had. This month may be the ultimate test.
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Default Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)

Don't know about you guys, but I'm perfectly fine acting like I don't see no elephant in the room.
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