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Old 12-27-2010   #1
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What difference in position does it make if the Texans win vs. lose this upcoming game vs. the Jags? Surely no more than 1, huh?

I hope this is in the right section?
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Could be a difference of maybe 10 picks, depending on how other teams do.
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Unfortunately it will probably be better for the Texans future if they lose Sunday. In this draft 10 spots is a huge deal when it comes to drafting an impact player.
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as of right now we're picking #8. depending on results sunday, that could change to #2 or #12

my guess (based on a loss sunday) is that we'll be picking #5 or #6
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Damn, didn't realise it was that big of a swing.
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Projected Order Of Top 11 Picks In 2011 NFL Draft
Team W-L Win Pct. Strength of Schedule*
1. Panthers 2-13 .133 .576
2. Broncos 4-11 .267 .508
3. Bengals 4-11 .267 .580
4. Bills 4-11 .267 .582
5. Cardinals 5-10 .333 .456
6. 49ers 5-10 .333 .494
7. Cowboys 5-10 .333 .521
8. Texans 5-10 .333 .527
9. Lions 5-10 .333 .549
10. Browns 5-10 .333 .576
11. Vikings 5-9 .357 .542

* Includes W-L of all opponents (not just those played to date).

"best" case scenario if the Texans lose looks like the #4 pick.

Carolina - # 1 lock
Broncos - even if Broncos win, they will have the lower strength of schedule.
Loser of Cards / Niners will draft ahead of the Texans.

To pick #4...
The Bengals have to beat the Ravens (Ravens still alive for division with a Steelers loss, so they will be trying.)
The Bills have to beat the Jets (Jets are locked into the 6 seed - should rest)

To Pick #5
Two of the Bengals, Bills, or Cowboys have to win.
Cowboys have Philly in Philly, but the Eagles will probably rest players after their crazy Tuesday night game.
The winner of the Cards/49ers will pick after the Texans

Basically if the Texans lose, they will pick no worse than 7th.

If they win...

worst case would be 14th...but don't have the SOS for the teams with 6 wins...might be better than that.
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So we get steven Paeae or Von Miller? Hmmmmm, tough choice, but I bet they pick a CB anyways...
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So we get steven Paeae or Von Miller? Hmmmmm, tough choice, but I bet they pick a CB anyways...
Outside of Peterson, none of the CBs impress me. The little I've seen of Prince, Harris and Jenkins.... I never once thought "Top 10 pick". Yes we have the 11th, I didn't hear that either.

We GOTTA fill our holes on Defense with veteran FAs and then go BPA in the draft. We HAVE to get playmakers. I think Miller and Paea and others will be rated higher than any of the DBs except for Peterson (who will be Top 5).
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Outside of Peterson, none of the CBs impress me. The little I've seen of Prince, Harris and Jenkins.... I never once thought "Top 10 pick". Yes we have the 11th, I didn't hear that either.

We GOTTA fill our holes on Defense with veteran FAs and then go BPA in the draft. We HAVE to get playmakers. I think Miller and Paea and others will be rated higher than any of the DBs except for Peterson (who will be Top 5).
best way to fill holes is to trade back like a mother.......
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best way to fill holes is to trade back like a mother.......
Hahaha nice face palm. I agree but the time has passed for trading back to fill holes through the draft. Watching our defense this year... the problem with the secondary was a lot due to age. Fill holes with Veterans (free agents) and we'll get more immediate impact from them.

The rookies we play next season from the draft have to be playmakers. They need to see the field because they're "special". The 2011 season is do or die for Kubiak (again, lol) and he better not put his job on the line for 'decent' rookies with upside.
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Hahaha nice face palm. I agree but the time has passed for trading back to fill holes through the draft. Watching our defense this year... the problem with the secondary was a lot due to age. Fill holes with Veterans (free agents) and we'll get more immediate impact from them.

The rookies we play next season from the draft have to be playmakers. They need to see the field because they're "special". The 2011 season is do or die for Kubiak (again, lol) and he better not put his job on the line for 'decent' rookies with upside.
let me just make one example off top of my head using New England for example. Imagine for a moment I'm Bill Belichick & your Rick Smith.......

I propose to you trading New England's first, projected 32nd (590 points) first pick of 2nd #33 via Carolina (580 points) plus 4th rd. projected #128th (44 points) all for the Texans first pick #11 overall (1250) would you make that trade & if so who would you select? ps. Patriots move up to get Watt
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The problem is, to trade back there needs to be someone of value at #11 for someone to pay to trade up. It's not a bad spot considering the rookie contracts, but who will fall to #11 that will make another team want to trade up? Maybe the Seahawks want to grab Jake Locker or Ryan Mallet before the Vikings or Dolphins do? It's likely at least 2 QBs will be off the board before our pick, thanks to Carolina and Arizona. Just depends on who all is taken by that point.
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the 11th spot is rich with talent if all the underclassman come out, everything hinges on them really.
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