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Old 10-18-2010   #1
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Does it bother anyone that our special teams have looked less than Special this year?

I think our coverage has been good for the most part, but we have looked awfully pedestrian in the return game...

It's not like we haven't had our chances.

I wonder what the problem is...returners? unlucky breaks? guys not blocking as well? New rules on kickoffs disallowing the wedge?

Maybe my amnesia is kicking in, but I don't remember us being so bad in the return game in years past....

Then we had to take a timeout this past game because of guys not being on the field...They have just seemed a bit sloppy to me...
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According to Kubiak, mostly bad blocking. Though that's taking him for his word. Could be "coach speak" and not wanting to call out Slaton.

Some fans would say it's the returner himself.

I'll say it's probably a mix of both.
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According to Kubiak, mostly bad blocking. Though that's taking him for his word. Could be "coach speak" and not wanting to call out Slaton.

Some fans would say it's the returner himself.

I'll say it's probably a mix of both.
All I know is that the Chiefs kept kicking off into corners yesterday. I believe to continue to expose Slaton's subpar thinking skills. The laughable part is that Slaton almost bit once again. Sheesh!

Definitely both with all the block in the backs that we like to do.
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Even if it is coaching, he's had a lot more good years than bad years. I'd give him a pass.
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According to Kubiak, mostly bad blocking. Though that's taking him for his word. Could be "coach speak" and not wanting to call out Slaton.

Some fans would say it's the returner himself.

I'll say it's probably a mix of both.
I wish I could post video. Slaton has been awful as a kick returner. When he does get blocking, he doesn't have a concept about blocking lanes, and he just wants to try and get outside too soon. There's some blocking issues as well, which has a lot to do with the injuries sustained. A lot of the ST guys are injured and go unnoticed because they aren't in the starting eleven, but it impacts the team. Sharpton, Bentley, Molden come to mind, and probably at least one of our TEs.
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I posted about this in another thread:

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=33
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Can someone explain why they were pooch kicking it to us when Slaton struggles to get to the 10???
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Default Re: Special teams/Joe Marciano

I am thinking the ST are suffering due to injuries and pretty big change over in personnel.
Bentley our ST captain has been out.
Andre Davis is lost for the year.
Those are two key guys right there.
We are thin at LB and have had a big turnover in the def backfield too.
Coach marciano will get it squared away.
The bye week is coming perfect time for us.
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I am thinking the ST are suffering due to injuries and pretty big change over in personnel.
Bentley our ST captain has been out.
Andre Davis is lost for the year.
Those are two key guys right there.
We are thin at LB and have had a big turnover in the def backfield too.
Coach marciano will get it squared away.
The bye week is coming perfect time for us.
Also Holliday getting injured leaving us with a hole at KR.
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Default Re: Special teams/Joe Marciano

Special tema have not done much of anything all year.

The return game has been awful...Both punt and Kick return...

Lota of people wanted Jacoby to return kicks, but he's looked as bad as Slaton did earlier in the year...

I'm thinking Trindon has a better shot to make this team next year now...
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I will give Kudos for the two blocks this year...the punt black against the Chargers and the field goal against the Skins...
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Default Re: Special teams/Joe Marciano

If there's a change in ST coaching perhaps it will be with someone who will let Holliday just go with his instincts and speed to be that guy that he was drafted to be. If he can catch the ball
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If there's a change in ST coaching perhaps it will be with someone who will let Holliday just go with his instincts and speed to be that guy that he was drafted to be. If he can catch the ball
He may have had some problems with hanging on to the ball at LSU. But even so, it's hard to catch a ball without a thumb.
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He may have had some problems with hanging on to the ball at LSU. But even so, it's hard to catch a ball without a thumb.
Something about this whole thumb issue doesn't mesh right with me. I'm thinking they really did not want to leave him exposed on the practice squad.

I was a big fan of Holliday and still am despite his preseason struggles. I believe he has tons of potential. I saw that upon his very first return before he got "coached up". There are some players that you just let them be. Let the kid run on space. Worry about coaching up the blockers or solving the new wedge rule change.
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Holiday is going to be on a short Leash this Offseason he going to have to fight to make this team imo
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Something about this whole thumb issue doesn't mesh right with me. I'm thinking they really did not want to leave him exposed on the practice squad.

I was a big fan of Holliday and still am despite his preseason struggles. I believe he has tons of potential. I saw that upon his very first return before he got "coached up". There are some players that you just let them be. Let the kid run on space. Worry about coaching up the blockers or solving the new wedge rule change.
I have a feeling that Holliday has a very good chance of proving himself on KO returns (we'll have to see on P returns). In preseason, he actually had 4 out of his 5 KO returns go for greater than 20 yds (ave on those 5 being 24 yds). The STs blocking in preseason was even more of a mess than it has been in regular season. The offseason camps and TC/ preseason should go a long way to Holliday's development.
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Neil Rackers is the only bright spot on ST this year
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