No Dunta, No Cry Mock

[HuttoKarl]

1. Kyle Wilson CB Boise State
Wilson is gaining momentum here to be considered the best cover corner of this senior class and a potential first-round pick.

2. Morgan Burnett S Georgia Tech
Burnett's ability to play either safety position could make him a second-round pick.

3. Toby Gerhart RB Stanford
If Gerhart impresses the NFL with his times in the 40-yard dash, he will move up considerably. There is some question whether he would play tailback or fullback in the NFL, but he has never been a blocking back, so if he makes it in the pros, it will be as a tailback.

4. Sergio Render OG Virginia Tech
has been selected Second Team All-Atlantic Coast Conference for the 2009 college football season as voted on by the 40 members of the Atlantic Coast Sports Media Association.

5. Rod Muckelroy OLB Texas
has been selected All-Big 12 Conference Second Team for the 2009 college football season as voted on by the Big 12 coaches.

6. Cam Thomas DT North Carolina
Defensive tackle Cam Thomas (North Carolina) carried his 331 pounds well, although he did measure at a shade under 6-4. His strength at the point of attack stood out

6. Kenny Alfred OC Washington State
Kenny Alfred, Sr., Washington State, has been selected Second Team All-Pac-10 Conference for the 2009 college football season as voted on by the Pac-10 head football coaches. Alfred, as senior from Gig Harbor, Wash., was the undisputed leader of the Cougar offense, starting all 12 games this season, garnering WSU Offensive Player of the Week seven times. He was one of two offensive linemen to start each week and ended his career starting his final 29 games. A Rimington Award candidate each of the past three seasons signifying the nation's outstanding center, Alfred was also a Pac-10 All-Academic selection last month.

7. Dennis Rogan CB Tennessee
a versatile defensive back and return specialist from Knoxville, would have been a key piece for new head coach Derek Dooley's first UT defense. Generously listed at 5-foot-10, Rogan evolved into a solid defender who could play any spot in the secondary. He made decisive plays in several Volunteers' games the past three seasons.


My mock focus has gone from two RB's to grabbing up defensive backs while still filling what I feel are our problem areas (interior line, running back, defensive tackle). All of the blurbs on each player come from their page on cbs sportsline.

[badboy]

Enjoyed your view HK. I am ok with your guys but feel strongly about mine because I've watched most of them play. Will you be able to generate info from the combine to keep us up to date? Concerning ALfred, he is same size as Myers who routinely gets blasted for not being able to stand up to defense, how is your guy going to do better? I think Burnett could have remained in college another year. His stats are good but I'm not a huge fan.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by badboy

Enjoyed your view HK. I am ok with your guys but feel strongly about mine because I've watched most of them play. Will you be able to generate info from the combine to keep us up to date? Concerning ALfred, he is same size as Myers who routinely gets blasted for not being able to stand up to defense, how is your guy going to do better? I think Burnett could have remained in college another year. His stats are good but I'm not a huge fan.

Same way Mawae is a 7 time probowler 3 time All Pro and Weigman as a probowler did it at under 290 lbs. Good technique and dedication.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

Same way Mawae is a 7 time probowler 3 time All Pro and Weigman as a probowler did it at under 290 lbs. Good technique and dedication.

Icak you always come up with one or two exceptions and then try to portray that as the rule. I ain't buying.

[HuttoKarl]

Going off of Kubiak's record of letting people stick around even when subpar, I don't really have a lot of hope that Myers is going to lose his job this upcoming season. I simply looked at a draft board and some accolades and thought that Alfred would be a good guy to take a chance on in a later round.

[HuttoKarl]

badboy...did you have a mock posted somewhere? If so, can you spare a link?

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by HuttoKarl

Going off of Kubiak's record of letting people stick around even when subpar, I don't really have a lot of hope that Myers is going to lose his job this upcoming season. I simply looked at a draft board and some accolades and thought that Alfred would be a good guy to take a chance on in a later round.

I concure, the exception being if they manuver down & take Pouncey earlier which would force their hand a little but you know they don't like that unless they absoultely love the kid.

I like you mock even if it's not realistic w/Cam Thomas still on the board in 6th. maybe if you sub in Trindon Holliday instead

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HuttoKarl

Going off of Kubiak's record of letting people stick around even when subpar, I don't really have a lot of hope that Myers is going to lose his job this upcoming season. I simply looked at a draft board and some accolades and thought that Alfred would be a good guy to take a chance on in a later round.

from ProFootballFocus

# Name Team Snaps Overall Pass Block Screen Block Run Block Penalty # of Pen QB Sk QB Ht QB Pr
1 Nick Mangold NYJ 1080 31.8 5.0 0.0 29.3 -2.5 3-0 1 2 5
2 Shaun O'Hara NYG 1079 18.5 3.3 2.0 15.7 -2.5 5-1 1 4 10
2 Matt Birk BLT 1047 18.5 3.4 2.0 15.6 -2.5 3-0 2 2 10
4 Ryan Kalil CAR 1076 18.4 5.2 0.5 16.2 -3.5 4-1 2 2 7
4 Jake Grove MIA 693 18.4 4.6 2.0 16.8 -5.0 6-0 0 1 7
6 Alex Mack CLV 1016 16.3 0.6 2.0 15.2 -1.5 2-1 1 3 10
7 Jamaal Jackson PHI 926 16.1 2.4 2.0 11.7 0.0 0-0 2 0 8
8 Chris Myers HST 1083 12.7 2.1 3.5 8.1 -1.0 1-0 1 4 13
9 Scott Mruczkowski SD 861 10.9 3.2 5.5 5.2 -3.0 3-1 1 1 9
10 Jeff Saturday IND 1013 10.4 8.9 2.0 2.5 -3.0 3-1 1 1 7
11 Todd McClure ATL 1082 10.3 3.8 0.5 9.0 -3.0 3-0 1 6 7
12 Joe Berger MIA 459 9.5 3.0 -0.5 7.0 0.0 0-0 0 1 4
13 Andre Gurode DAL 1093 9.4 -0.8 0.0 17.7 -7.5 9-2 2 5 10
14 Jonathan Goodwin NO 1039 7.0 3.7 2.0 3.3 -2.0 2-0 1 1 12
15 Dominic Raiola DET 1103 6.0 2.6 1.5 6.4 -4.5 5-0 2 6 9
16 Olin Kreutz CHI 1035 5.8 5.6 5.0 1.2 -6.0 6-0 2 3 6
17 Eric Heitmann SF 1005 3.0 2.9 0.5 1.6 -2.0 2-0 2 1 11
18 Scott Wells GB 1001 1.5 2.4 2.5 1.6 -5.0 5-0 2 3 8
18 Dan Koppen NE 1099 1.5 -0.7 1.0 6.2 -5.0 5-0 0 8 10
20 Chris Spencer SEA 749 1.0 3.5 1.0 -1.0 -2.5 3-0 2 0 7
21 Kyle Cook CIN 1093 -0.6 -0.5 0.5 2.4 -3.0 3-0 1 4 12
22 Lyle Sendlein ARZ 1052 -3.7 -2.9 0.5 1.7 -3.0 3-0 1 8 13
23 Jason Brown SL 1013 -4.0 7.0 -0.5 -7.0 -3.5 4-1 1 1 5
24 Casey Wiegmann DEN 1096 -5.5 0.5 -2.0 2.0 -6.0 6-1 1 1 15
25 Casey Rabach WAS 1026 -6.4 0.3 0.0 -1.2 -5.5 7-2 1 4 12
26 Samson Satele OAK 743 -7.8 -4.6 0.5 -1.7 -2.0 2-1 2 4 11
27 Geoff Hangartner BUF 983 -10.7 -10.0 -1.0 4.3 -4.0 4-0 3 4 17
28 John Sullivan MIN 1126 -12.2 1.2 -1.5 -9.4 -2.5 4-1 4 4 8
29 Rudy Niswanger KC 1040 -13.3 0.7 -0.5 -7.5 -6.0 6-3 1 3 13
30 Jeff Faine TB 756 -16.9 -7.9 0.5 -8.5 -1.0 1-0 1 4 15
31 Kevin Mawae TEN 1039 -17.3 1.5 0.5 -16.8 -2.5 3-1 1 0 14
32 Chris Morris OAK 305 -17.6 -6.2 -0.5 -7.9 -3.0 3-1 1 4 6
33 Brad Meester JAX 1048 -17.7 -3.0 0.5 -13.7 -1.5 2-1 1 9 14
34 Justin Hartwig PIT 1077 -22.6 -8.9 1.0 -11.7 -3.0 3-0 7 4 15

I know this is hard to read so click on the link. Meyers better than most give him credit for.

BTW I am not a fan of his either, but you don't throw out a player until you can upgrade the position.

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by badboy

Icak you always come up with one or two exceptions and then try to portray that as the rule. I ain't buying.

I don't get that. He didn't say it was a given, he said that was how a smaller man could do what Mawae does. He didn't claim it was any sort of rule, just that it was possible and gave you an example.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

I don't get that. He didn't say it was a given, he said that was how a smaller man could do what Mawae does. He didn't claim it was any sort of rule, just that it was possible and gave you an example.

Then you need to review the history between me and InfantryCak.