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Old 12-30-2009   #1
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I have bounced around with several different players that I thought we should target in the first round but now I am absolutely sold on who that should be.

Mike Iupati, G, Idaho is an absolute stud! I had doubt a guy with his size (6'5" 330)would be able to excell in the ZB scheme we utilze. Not anymore. I am just blown away by this guy. Not only does he dominate on the feild but he shows a presence on the sideline that you just dont see from linemen. Mark my words, this guy is giong to be special. I only hope he last until our pick and we are smart enough to draft him.
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I have bounced around with several different players that I thought we should target in the first round but now I am absolutely sold on who that should be.

Mike Iupati, G, Idaho is an absolute stud! I had doubt a guy with his size (6'5" 330)would be able to excell in the ZB scheme we utilze. Not anymore. I am just blown away by this guy. Not only does he dominate on the feild but he shows a presence on the sideline that you just dont see from linemen. Mark my words, this guy is giong to be special. I only hope he last until our pick and we are smart enough to draft him.
I have been talking about this guy for a while now. He is a great talent, with a very high ceiling. I would love to see him on the Texans.
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Not Sold.

I agree that Iupati is very good but like Mussop I have doubt that he's quick enough to play in a ZBS scheme and I also question the level of competition that he faced at Idaho. Maybe my opinion will change after the combine. Anyone know if he's going to play in the Senior Bowl, that should be a very good test of his abilities since it'll be against elite talent?
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I have bounced around with several different players that I thought we should target in the first round but now I am absolutely sold on who that should be.

Mike Iupati, G, Idaho is an absolute stud! I had doubt a guy with his size (6'5" 330)would be able to excell in the ZB scheme we utilze. Not anymore. I am just blown away by this guy. Not only does he dominate on the feild but he shows a presence on the sideline that you just dont see from linemen. Mark my words, this guy is giong to be special. I only hope he last until our pick and we are smart enough to draft him.
He actually looks lean at that size and really should be able to play in any scheme.
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He actually looks lean at that size and really should be able to play in any scheme.
He is as good in space as he is at mauling. When he pulls he shows the agility and atleticism of a much smaller lineman. He is the best overall OG prospect I have seen in years.

Wolf this guy is the real deal. I fear after the combine we wont have a shot at him.
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1. Mike Iupati ... OG ... the guy is 6'5 340 and moves like he weighs 290 . He plays in the ZBS at Idaho and pulls better than anything we have . He is also strong and could really help the running game which I see as the most pressing issue . He is the offensive version of Haloti Ngata .
2. Dan Williams ... DT ... 6'2 and 330 lbs . Played in the SEC trenches .
3. Ryan Mathews ... 5'11 and 220 lbs . Why ... cause Fresno State owes us .
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If we pulled that draft out I would faint. All three would probably start and we might be talented enough to go far in the playoffs even with Kubiak as coach.
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Good thoughts, but I am not sure that all three them make it our 2nd round pick
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Good thoughts, but I am not sure that all three them make it our 2nd round pick
We traded Chris Brown for a 2nd .

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He is as good in space as he is at mauling. When he pulls he shows the agility and atleticism of a much smaller lineman. He is the best overall OG prospect I have seen in years.

Wolf this guy is the real deal. I fear after the combine we wont have a shot at him.
I'm not against drafting Iupati but not in the 1st round. Very few OG's have ever been drafted in the 1st round, I think he could be had in the 2nd round. I think that CB is a higher priority in the 1st round and if we can't get Haden then I'd try to trade down and pick Lindley or Robinson in the late 1st round and then go after an OG in the 2nd.

If we change head coaches and blocking schemes then Iupati would be a serious consideration in the 1st round after a trade down.
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I'm not against drafting Iupati but not in the 1st round. Very few OG's have ever been drafted in the 1st round, I think he could be had in the 2nd round. I think that CB is a higher priority in the 1st round and if we can't get Haden then I'd try to trade down and pick Lindley or Robinson in the late 1st round and then go after an OG in the 2nd.

If we change head coaches and blocking schemes then Iupati would be a serious consideration in the 1st round after a trade down.
Hutchinson and Fanneca were 1st .

Munchak and Mathews ... 1st .

John Hannah ... 1st .

Of course there was Larry Allen who was a 3rd .
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Hutchinson and Fanneca were 1st .

Munchak and Mathews ... 1st .

John Hannah ... 1st .

Of course there was Larry Allen who was a 3rd .
I didn't say it doesn't happen, I just said that it doesn't happen very often.
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I'm not against drafting Iupati but not in the 1st round. Very few OG's have ever been drafted in the 1st round, I think he could be had in the 2nd round. I think that CB is a higher priority in the 1st round and if we can't get Haden then I'd try to trade down and pick Lindley or Robinson in the late 1st round and then go after an OG in the 2nd.

If we change head coaches and blocking schemes then Iupati would be a serious consideration in the 1st round after a trade down.
very few OG's have been this good. I cant see this guy lasting until the second round. Haden is a pipe dream were we will be picking and there is a good chance the other CB's you named will be available in the second round.

The bolded part is the kind of thinking that got us into this trouble in the first place. I dont think you realize how athaletic this guy is. He is more than capable of playing in a ZB scheme.
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I'm not against drafting Iupati but not in the 1st round. Very few OG's have ever been drafted in the 1st round, I think he could be had in the 2nd round. I think that CB is a higher priority in the 1st round and if we can't get Haden then I'd try to trade down and pick Lindley or Robinson in the late 1st round and then go after an OG in the 2nd.

If we change head coaches and blocking schemes then Iupati would be a serious consideration in the 1st round after a trade down.
Our interior OL is undoubtedly the biggest need for the Texans. If Iupati is as good as advertised he'd more than likely be BPA when we pick. Better to nail the position with a future all pro than go the safe route and hope we can find a starter in a later round that can compete with NFL DL.

Rewatch the Texans inside the 10 yard line this year and i'm sure that you'll agree we need to do whatever is necessary to fix our short yardage run game. If that means drafting an interior OL in the 1st round then that's what we're gonna have to do.
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I was all about drafting Brandon Albert in the middle of the first round a few years ago as a LG. I really think he's an All-Pro OG. Of course the Chiefs drafted him in the top 5, paid him way more than he's worth, and started him right away at a new position. Now, the Chiefs may be drafting another LT and putting Albert back to OG. Let's pray we aren't that terrible of a franchise.

I've only seen Idaho play twice this year, and I like him. I'm not sure he's a top 15 talent. I don't have quite the same feeling about him as I did about Albert, but Iupati is the only OG even in this discussion.
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