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Old 12-08-2009   #1
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1. Joe Haden CB
2. Kyle Wilson CB/Golden Tate WR
3.Toby Gerhart/Noel Devine RBs
4.Mike Tepper OL
5.Dezmon Briscoe/Jordan Shipley WRs
6.Myron Rolle FS
6.Dan Doering OG/Christian Ponder QB
7.Ben Tate/Legarette Blount RBs

A lot of these picks depend on what is going on at the time for the Texans and who is available.
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1. Joe Haden CB
2. Kyle Wilson CB/Golden Tate WR
3.Toby Gerhart/Noel Devine RBs
4.Mike Tepper OL
5.Dezmon Briscoe/Jordan Shipley WRs
6.Myron Rolle FS
6.Dan Doering OG/Christian Ponder QB
7.Ben Tate/Legarette Blount RBs

A lot of these picks depend on what is going on at the time for the Texans and who is available.
1. Haden, good bye DR
2. Wilson. you are probably closer than I am but I hope he drops to round 4. Please explain why you think Smith will draft CBs in first two rounds. Not arguing with you just want your input. Are you dis-satisfied with Quinn or would you move him to FS as I would?
3. Gerhart, hoping we are both correct that he is still here. It may benefit Texans if he does not win Heisman.
4. Who?
5. I'd like Shipley in this round but doubt he falls this low.
6. Rolle would be a good pick here but most opinions have him all over the board. Combine will allow us to know if year off hurt skills.
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1. Haden, good bye DR
2. Wilson. you are probably closer than I am but I hope he drops to round 4. Please explain why you think Smith will draft CBs in first two rounds. Not arguing with you just want your input. Are you dis-satisfied with Quinn or would you move him to FS as I would?
3. Gerhart, hoping we are both correct that he is still here. It may benefit Texans if he does not win Heisman.
4. Who?
5. I'd like Shipley in this round but doubt he falls this low.
6. Rolle would be a good pick here but most opinions have him all over the board. Combine will allow us to know if year off hurt skills.
I would like Warren if Haden isn't there
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I would like Warren if Haden isn't there
I have not followed Warren but NFL scout says middle round pick so probably 4th round. See link http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2011&genpos=CB
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1. Joe Haden CB
2. Kyle Wilson CB/Golden Tate WR
3.Toby Gerhart/Noel Devine RBs
4.Mike Tepper OL
5.Dezmon Briscoe/Jordan Shipley WRs
6.Myron Rolle FS
6.Dan Doering OG/Christian Ponder QB
7.Ben Tate/Legarette Blount RBs

A lot of these picks depend on what is going on at the time for the Texans and who is available.

1. Haden, great pick.
2. Wilson, also a great pick, other CB's in the 2nd round of value would be Patrick Robinson, and SydQuan Thompson.
3. Gerhart, good pick and good value if still available.
4. Tepper, Who, I never heard of this guy.
5. Shipley, not a bid pick since we hopefully get rid of Andre Davis and his grossly overpriced contract. Honestly though I look for Glen Martinez to take Davis' place and this draft pick could be used on another position.
6. Rolle, I doubt seriously that he'll be available here, probably go in the 3rd or early 4th round.
6. Doering, I don't know anything about him but extra O-linemen is never a bad thing. Ponder, a QB to groom for the future is also a viable option.
7. Tate, good pick and great value if still available here, will probably go earlier though. Blount, also good pick if still available.

Overall not bad but it could be better. I'd also like to hear your reasoning for 2 early CB's, I doubt it happens.
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From the way we have been playing lately I see us in a good drafting spot for Joe Haden. We could really use him, none of us really know what is going to happen with Dunta but sadly we probably will resign him. Jacque Reeves and Fred Bennett just are not getting the job done at anytime. If we drafted Joe Haden he would automatically become a starter on the first day bc of the such bad quality of depth in our CBs. I had us taking Kyle Wilson bc this guy really looks like he can be a starter his rookie year also, Boise State has a freaking wall in the stadium that is just him. Glover Quin could also stay at CB just depending on what happens with Dunta. If DR stays though I could see GQ moving to FS and I think he could provide a lot better play there than DB or Eugene Wilson. If this happened our depth 1 to 3 could be GQ, Joe Haden and Kyle Wilson. That would be a huge change for the better and would provide starters for years to come. If this happens and we go out and sign a beast on the DL, Vince Wilfork, Barry Cofield or Ryan Pickett. If for some reason Mays and Haden are on the board that would be a very difficult choice. If the Texans want a veteran at FS they should sign O.J. Atogwe and draft Haden. Any of these scenarios would be a great move.
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Haden is a better talent then Wilson, but Wilson has some unreal skills
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One thing I noticed from this Kyle Wilson video and several others I watched as well, they show alot of his workouts and punt returns but almost nothing of his pass coverage ability. I like his speed and workouts, his intelligence level, and punt return ability, but if his highlight videos don't show anything of him in pass coverage then what are they hiding. He's a CB and they should be showing off his pass coverage abilities. NFL scouts don't base their opinions on You Tube videos and I guarantee if he's good or bad in pass coverage they'll know it.
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One thing I noticed from this Kyle Wilson video and several others I watched as well, they show alot of his workouts and punt returns but almost nothing of his pass coverage ability. I like his speed and workouts, his intelligence level, and punt return ability, but if his highlight videos don't show anything of him in pass coverage then what are they hiding. He's a CB and they should be showing off his pass coverage abilities. NFL scouts don't base their opinions on You Tube videos and I guarantee if he's good or bad in pass coverage they'll know it.
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From the way we have been playing lately I see us in a good drafting spot for Joe Haden. We could really use him, none of us really know what is going to happen with Dunta but sadly we probably will resign him. Jacque Reeves and Fred Bennett just are not getting the job done at anytime. If we drafted Joe Haden he would automatically become a starter on the first day bc of the such bad quality of depth in our CBs. I had us taking Kyle Wilson bc this guy really looks like he can be a starter his rookie year also, Boise State has a freaking wall in the stadium that is just him. Glover Quin could also stay at CB just depending on what happens with Dunta. If DR stays though I could see GQ moving to FS and I think he could provide a lot better play there than DB or Eugene Wilson. If this happened our depth 1 to 3 could be GQ, Joe Haden and Kyle Wilson. That would be a huge change for the better and would provide starters for years to come. If this happens and we go out and sign a beast on the DL, Vince Wilfork, Barry Cofield or Ryan Pickett. If for some reason Mays and Haden are on the board that would be a very difficult choice. If the Texans want a veteran at FS they should sign O.J. Atogwe and draft Haden. Any of these scenarios would be a great move.
I like your thinking but you did not mention Offense and you may be ok with it.

If Myers remains at center and he prob will if Kubes is coach next season, line could be Brown, Caldwell, Myers, Brisiel (off injury)and Winston. I think Caldwell may be good to go as a starter but not sure about Brisiel. Anyway, would not have to draft a olineman. First round, Haden and second Wilson (I like this guy but mocked him in 4th) McCain is the nickle back and move Quin to FS. I have long believed the latter will work. He was rated 7th best FS in nation when he came out so he can play the position.
For offense, I would like Gerhart in 3rd but very concerned not there. We need a power back more than we need two corners, imo. I would like another OG/LT but not sure we'd get much in 4th or later other than long term project.

Something we all need to keep in mind, if Gary K. survives to finish his last year; I would expect him to draft for immediate impact players that will prove he belongs as a head coach. There will be no more time to build for the future.
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