My December mock

[badboy]

After much research and careful plotting er thinking I do the following this off season regardless of play or record.

Dunta Robinson, thanks for the minimal memories and frequent "ahs" over your hitting and groans at your lack of coverage skills. You are gone.

OD: I like your play despite your disagreement with $ offered. If you heal enough that I think you can play (see DR two years ago) I will again offer you a very lucrative deal with emphasis on incentatives first year and back loaded to protect team in case you lose your edge. A pretty healthy bonus which you earned by your pro bowl play before your injury. If you hesitate, you get the tag. Injuries go either way and I can't wait two seasons for you to ramp up ala DR. Let's make this work.

Glover Quin: You are now my starting FS. Shut up Gary & play the kid. When you drafted him for CB he was rated as nation's 7th best FS by NFL Draft Scout.

DTackle: I think we will be ok with what we have but will sign a FA.

Drafting at #15

1. CB Joe Haden starts day one & replaces DR. May be gone, if so I select U.T. free safety Thomas who will be insane to remain for senior. I move Quinn to CB. If no Thomas, Wilson is starting FS, I make the fans mad by moving Asamoah up and picking CB Perrish Cox in 2nd.

2. LG Jon Asamoah replaces Studdard and with Brown secures left side for years.

3. RB Toby Gerhart does not get invite to Heisman and as months have passed since his last game, he drops. Combine pushes him up briefly, but he falls in draft. Gary, the old any back can get a 1,000 does not fly and Slaton's 08 season was an aberration as he should not be the featured back. Let him have a lengthy career doing what he was drafted for. He will make you some money.

4. CB Kyle Wilson this speedster 4.42 should win starting role over Quin if we did not get Haden, moving Glover to FS. As a punt return man, Wilson led nation on TD returns. Jacoby concentrates on WR. Even if we have Haden or Cox, Wilson is our nickle.

5. C/G/T Thomas Austin drops because of other guards and centers taken ahead of him. Those teams are wrong. Better prospect than Caldwell was and should replace Myers as soon as Kube's feels ok with his play calling. Myers and Brisiel are back ups and Pitts is a goner. Mel Kiper rates Wilson as best 2010 center in draft.

6A. ILB Von Miller yeah locals know him but few others. 17 QB sacks 43 tackles (2009) 6'3" 240. Even if he goes higher, no loss and I like Baylor's OLB Joe Pawelek. Only 2.5 sacks but 109 tackles and 1 INT. I am okay with our current LBs but these are quality buys here. If I get Miller, I might just take Joe P. with 2nd sixth (Travis Johnson is crapping all over a move up to 5th with 9 tackles so far) anyways 'cause I'm greedy.
6B if necessary FS/CB Robert Johnson Utah 6'2" 4.52 2008 4 INTS 2009 5 INTS
7. BPA

The above is based on a 4-3 and Kubes coaching. If NE swaps and gives a 2nd or two seconds for our first: Asamoah, Gerhart, Perrish Cox and follow with Morgan Burnett FS in 3rd.

[rmartin65]

I could go on board with this. If Gerhart makes it to the third, I think its chancy right now. Depends on the combine, pro days, and the all-star games, but I would be ecstatic if he dropped that far. Your guys are good though, this would get an A+ from me. I like the Austin pick, he is my second center after Walton from Baylor.

[Wolf6151]

I really like this draft, it mirrors one I've been working on pretty closely, with the exception of Kyle Wilson. I really like Wilson, he'll be a steal in the 3rd or later, but I don't think he'll be available in the 4th round, he'll most likely go in the 2nd or early 3rd.

[mussop]

Nice mock.

[LonerATO]

Originally Posted by badboy

After much research and careful plotting er thinking I do the following this off season regardless of play or record.

Dunta Robinson, thanks for the minimal memories and frequent "ahs" over your hitting and groans at your lack of coverage skills. You are gone.

OD: I like your play despite your disagreement with $ offered. If you heal enough that I think you can play (see DR two years ago) I will again offer you a very lucrative deal with emphasis on incentatives first year and back loaded to protect team in case you lose your edge. A pretty healthy bonus which you earned by your pro bowl play before your injury. If you hesitate, you get the tag. Injuries go either way and I can't wait two seasons for you to ramp up ala DR. Let's make this work.

Glover Quin: You are now my starting FS. Shut up Gary & play the kid. When you drafted him for CB he was rated as nation's 7th best FS by NFL Draft Scout.

DTackle: I think we will be ok with what we have but will sign a FA.

Drafting at #15

1. CB Joe Haden starts day one & replaces DR. May be gone, if so I select U.T. free safety Thomas who will be insane to remain for senior. I move Quinn to CB. If no Thomas, Wilson is starting FS, I make the fans mad by moving Asamoah up and picking CB Perrish Cox in 2nd.

2. LG Jon Asamoah replaces Studdard and with Brown secures left side for years.

3. RB Toby Gerhart does not get invite to Heisman and as months have passed since his last game, he drops. Combine pushes him up briefly, but he falls in draft. Gary, the old any back can get a 1,000 does not fly and Slaton's 08 season was an aberration as he should not be the featured back. Let him have a lengthy career doing what he was drafted for. He will make you some money.

4. CB Kyle Wilson this speedster 4.42 should win starting role over Quin if we did not get Haden, moving Glover to FS. As a punt return man, Wilson led nation on TD returns. Jacoby concentrates on WR. Even if we have Haden or Cox, Wilson is our nickle.

5. C/G/T Thomas Austin drops because of other guards and centers taken ahead of him. Those teams are wrong. Better prospect than Caldwell was and should replace Myers as soon as Kube's feels ok with his play calling. Myers and Brisiel are back ups and Pitts is a goner. Mel Kiper rates Wilson as best 2010 center in draft.

6A. ILB Von Miller yeah locals know him but few others. 17 QB sacks 43 tackles (2009) 6'3" 240. Even if he goes higher, no loss and I like Baylor's OLB Joe Pawelek. Only 2.5 sacks but 109 tackles and 1 INT. I am okay with our current LBs but these are quality buys here. If I get Miller, I might just take Joe P. with 2nd sixth (Travis Johnson is crapping all over a move up to 5th with 9 tackles so far) anyways 'cause I'm greedy.
6B if necessary FS/CB Robert Johnson Utah 6'2" 4.52 2008 4 INTS 2009 5 INTS
7. BPA

The above is based on a 4-3 and Kubes coaching. If NE swaps and gives a 2nd or two seconds for our first: Asamoah, Gerhart, Perrish Cox and follow with Morgan Burnett FS in 3rd.

I have been talking up Wilson this whole year and think that the Texans can get him in the 2nd - 3rd, but as far as Earl Thomas he has said he is staying. I dont see Von Mille going passed the 2nd round, as he will be one of the top DE/OLB guys on the board and there are a lot more 3-4 teams this year. I like your 2nd round pick at OG and 5th round picking being BPA DT/OL. I dont see NE going back into the 1st round for the a 2nd first round pick. Hell NE has made a living off trading into the 2nd round to get great talent at a lesser price.

[beerlover]

great mock if it happens, but honestly not realistic & paints best possible scenero every round, it is fun to dream however

[mussop]

Im not sure I would draft a Guard in the second round. It seems like the guard positoin has become a position that can be filled later. Sergio Rendar is the only guy that I have seen so far that I would consider taking befor the 3rd round. The 2009 Draft was complete lunacy when it came down to the OG position. Guys like Duke Robinson, the best OG on most boards, and Herman Johnson weren't drafted until well into Round 5. While big guys arent wanted
at the position in our current scheme it still looks like there will be talent available with quickness and strength at the position late in the draft. At any event, the top talent at the guard position should be even better for 2010's draft.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by mussop

Im not sure I would draft a Guard in the second round. It seems like the guard positoin has become a position that can be filled later. Sergio Rendar is the only guy that I have seen so far that I would consider taking befor the 3rd round. The 2009 Draft was complete lunacy when it came down to the OG position. Guys like Duke Robinson, the best OG on most boards, and Herman Johnson weren't drafted until well into Round 5. While big guys arent wanted
at the position in our current scheme it still looks like there will be talent available with quickness and strength at the position late in the draft. At any event, the top talent at the guard position should be even better for 2010's draft.

These were my thoughts until the season progressed. My earlier mocks had Thomas Austin LG/C/T and another guard in 4th and 5th. My thinking was Kubes liked Studdard and the kid did have a mean streak. However, he just doesn't have the skills to be a starter. I think CHris WHite is not even a back up. I will be stunned if Pitts is offered a new contract and we have no way of knowing if Bisiel will return healthy. Most of us have been upset with the running games especially in the Red Zone (see Kube's half back pass into end zone against Jags) I do think a back like Gerhart would do well behind the current line. Why not solidify the offense with Asamoah who plays in a ZBS that lead his school to the cenference passing lead in 08? At 315 he is at the upper limits for ZBS and is known for his bull rushes that knock the D back. He can finesse or forward block.

In my mind if we had the exact same line up we used Sunday and had Asamaoah blocking for Gerhart, we easily win and probably would have beat Tennessee and the Colts twice.

[Vinny]

I don't think I'll be able to get into the draft as much this year. It's no longer "the bright spot" of our season as I don't see this team as an expansion team....just a loser at this point. I'm sure I'll get excited about some new players around APRIL next year, but I guess when your team never improves it just gets old.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by beerlover

great mock if it happens, but honestly not realistic & paints best possible scenero every round, it is fun to dream however

Yep

Let him dream,

Dreaming cant hurt

[Honoring Earl 34]

Let's see what the old Draft Tek says .

http://www.drafttek.com/round12010.asp

[awtysst]

Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

Let's see what the old Draft Tek says .

http://www.drafttek.com/round12010.asp

The first two rounds they have us taking Bandon Spikes ILB, FLorida and Trevard Lindley CB, Kentucky. This would be the kind of move you would make if you were switching to a 3-4. Spikes would be a good compliment to Meco in the middle and Cush and Barwin would be your OLBs. Mario would shift to LE. Of course with a 3-4 you would need to have a big NT (like a Casey Hampton) and may need to slide Smith to RE or find a journeyman RE to compliment.

Lindley is a bump and run man to man corner. He would be horrible in Zone. So, he could be a DR replacement.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

Let's see what the old Draft Tek says .

http://www.drafttek.com/round12010.asp

i started pulling my pant legs up when I saw Colt McCoy at #10. I think McCoy lost the Heisman against Nebraska, but if he gets it that only increase the $ a tram would have to give him. Sikes is a good LB but not on our list of priorities especialy after DIles stepped up. Lindley is good but I also have a ? how h would do in our defense. Maybe if we draft Haden in first and Lindley were to replace Reeves...

[badboy]

Originally Posted by beerlover

great mock if it happens, but honestly not realistic & paints best possible scenero every round, it is fun to dream however

Beerlover for once we disagree. I think it is very possible that each player will be available. These picks as stated are at #15. i will not do an NFL round one mock until probably well after February, Haden could drop. Remember that Macolm Jenkins was rated #1 CB for two staright years and went back to school the first and then was drafted just before Texans at # 14 by Saints. This imo is very realistic pick. Same with Asamoah and my scenario with Gerhart may also realistically happen. Many are just now hearing about this RB and talking him up for Heisman. As other have pointed out each season 2-3 running backs have great productivity and are raved about only to drop in draft. Rashad Jennings is an example. Wilson is where I am may be dreaming but due to numerous CBs with similar skills it comes down to who the teams see fitting their needs. Thanks for your input as always. Steve

[badboy]

Originally Posted by LonerATO

I have been talking up Wilson this whole year and think that the Texans can get him in the 2nd - 3rd, but as far as Earl Thomas he has said he is staying. I dont see Von Mille going passed the 2nd round, as he will be one of the top DE/OLB guys on the board and there are a lot more 3-4 teams this year. I like your 2nd round pick at OG and 5th round picking being BPA DT/OL. I dont see NE going back into the 1st round for the a 2nd first round pick. Hell NE has made a living off trading into the 2nd round to get great talent at a lesser price.

I am in agreement on the trade down with Pats as they had a similar situation last draft and did not trade up. I only included as on another thread someone had discussed the possibility. I think if we draft high enough Wilson may get pushed down to us. Maybe some teams will be leery of Boise' record. If we get Haden and Wilson not there, I'd still like another CB. Fortunately the draft is fairly deep.

[WolverineFan]

A couple things . . .

Earl Thomas is just a (RS) Sophomore and it is very likely that he will return for his Junior year at Texas. I'd say 60-40 odds he goes back. I'd take Joe Haden in a heartbeat though if he's available.

Toby Gerhart will not last till the 3rd round.

Kyle Wilson is purely a speed guy. He is overrated at his position because he is faster than the guys he plays against. He will not have that speed advantage in the NFL and he does not have that good of actual cover skills. He is a gifted kick returner, that's about it.

We run a 4-3 and Von Miller is not a DE or an OLB. Where does he fit in? His only position at the next level is as a 3-4 rush LB.

[pbat488]

Like the draft; but hopefully Von stays for his final year, he is one of the only bright spots on our D..

On a side note, Von is freaking hilarious off the field, as soon as he's done on the field he should be a color commentator for any network in the country.

[kastofsna]

yet another Gerhart to Houston mock

this is definitely a very very hopeful mock draft. i'm not sure Haden lasts that long (looks like a sure top 10 guy) and i doubt Gerhart does as well.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by kastofsna

yet another Gerhart to Houston mock

this is definitely a very very hopeful mock draft. i'm not sure Haden lasts that long (looks like a sure top 10 guy) and i doubt Gerhart does as well.

Malcom Jenkins does not effect your thinking? He should.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by pbat488

Like the draft; but hopefully Von stays for his final year, he is one of the only bright spots on our D..
On a side note, Von is freaking hilarious off the field, as soon as he's done on the field he should be a color commentator for any network in the country.

Great for fans but not for him. He could just as easily revert to previous years. He could be a boom or bust guy and is well worth a later day pick. I could see him being talked into "showing the world you are now a premier sack guy one more year." What is your take on your competitor Joe Pawelek from Baylor?