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Old 11-24-2009   #1
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http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm
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16 Joe Haden* CB 5'11" 228 Florida
48 Jeff Owens DT 6'3" 300 Georgia
80 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn
112 Walter Thurmond III CB 6'0" 175 Oregon
144 Chris Todd QB 6'4" 210 Auburn
152 Justin Cole DE 6'3" 240 San Jose State
176 Barry Humphries OG 6'3" 295 Clemson
208 Riley Cooper WR 6'3" 215 Florida

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16 Toby Gerhart RB 6'1" 235 Stanford
48 Vince Oghobaase DT 6'6" 312 Duke
80 80 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech
112 Dan Doering OG 6'6" 300 Iowa
144 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
152 Andre Dixon RB 6'1" 208 Connecticut
176 Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
208 Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee

Gerhart will give you a beast at RB. Oghobaase and Williams add size to the DTs. Render and Doering might not start their 1st year but they will in a year or two, and they have lot more upside than Studdard. Add Caldwell at OC and that should be a stud OL.

Dixon because you never have enough RBs.

I know, no safeties early and no CBs. I need size up the middle and the best way to do that is draft it.
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has juniors and seniors

16 Joe Haden* CB 5'11" 228 Florida
48 Jeff Owens DT 6'3" 300 Georgia
80 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn
112 Walter Thurmond III CB 6'0" 175 Oregon
144 Chris Todd QB 6'4" 210 Auburn
152 Justin Cole DE 6'3" 240 San Jose State
176 Barry Humphries OG 6'3" 295 Clemson
208 Riley Cooper WR 6'3" 215 Florida

Cherry pick

16 Toby Gerhart RB 6'1" 235 Stanford
48 Vince Oghobaase DT 6'6" 312 Duke
80 80 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech
112 Dan Doering OG 6'6" 300 Iowa
144 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
152 Andre Dixon RB 6'1" 208 Connecticut
176 Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
208 Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee

Gerhart will give you a beast at RB. Oghobaase and Williams add size to the DTs. Render and Doering might not start their 1st year but they will in a year or two, and they have lot more upside than Studdard. Add Caldwell at OC and that should be a stud OL.

Dixon because you never have enough RBs.

I know, no safeties early and no CBs. I need size up the middle and the best way to do that is draft it.
There is no way I would take your draft over the original one proposed. Joe Haden is the best CB in the draft and makes plays on the ball with good size. It's basically a need pick. I like Gerhart, but I don't really think he's an NFL starter. Good guy to have, but not a first round RB. I'm also a big fan of Tate. He's having a monster year in the SEC. I've seen the Duke DT in person, and I just wasn't impressed. I also don't want anything to do with VT O-linemen. I'm still upset.
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I like Haden also and would be happy to see Dunta let go.
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There is no way I would take your draft over the original one proposed. Joe Haden is the best CB in the draft and makes plays on the ball with good size. It's basically a need pick. I like Gerhart, but I don't really think he's an NFL starter. Good guy to have, but not a first round RB. I'm also a big fan of Tate. He's having a monster year in the SEC. I've seen the Duke DT in person, and I just wasn't impressed. I also don't want anything to do with VT O-linemen. I'm still upset.
I like Gerhart alot. He had a great night last night. Reminds me of John Riggins. Now is he worth the 16th pick? That is to be seen, I do not see him dropping to our pick in the 2nd, but he could. Eric Winston drop to our 3rd round pick and I never saw that coming.

I think Gerhart is a late 1st early 2nd round type guy.

As for taking a CB in the 1st, I am for us going defense in the 1st so give me a either a Safety, a WILL or a CB in the 1st. Or trade down.
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I like Gerhart alot. He had a great night last night. Reminds me of John Riggins. Now is he worth the 16th pick? That is to be seen, I do not see him dropping to our pick in the 2nd, but he could. Eric Winston drop to our 3rd round pick and I never saw that coming.

I think Gerhart is a late 1st early 2nd round type guy.

As for taking a CB in the 1st, I am for us going defense in the 1st so give me a either a Safety, a WILL or a CB in the 1st. Or trade down.
I'm with you but Smithiak could draft a CB in the 4th rd that could = Duntas production.

How about building an awsome offensive football team.

As f now this team has nothing they can hang their hat on.

Dont believe me which Texan team would you rather have on the field when it's 3rd and 2?

I dont feel comfortable with either. BTW

Smithiak have had 4 yrs to decide and it hasn't happened yet. How many years are enough?

Make up your minds which unit is going to be dominate or get the he** out.

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I like Gerhart alot. He had a great night last night. Reminds me of John Riggins. Now is he worth the 16th pick? That is to be seen, I do not see him dropping to our pick in the 2nd, but he could. Eric Winston drop to our 3rd round pick and I never saw that coming.

I think Gerhart is a late 1st early 2nd round type guy.

As for taking a CB in the 1st, I am for us going defense in the 1st so give me a either a Safety, a WILL or a CB in the 1st. Or trade down.
I am having same problem. I think Oline needs adjusting and I am picking a ZBS guard in round two to replace Studdard immediately and a center (5th)to replace Myers late next season with Caldwell remaining at RG. Brisiel is a backup. This strengthens the oline and I am leaning towards Jonathan Dwyer in first. I don't care about the college scheme he runs in, he goes to the end zone like a tank on nitro and has been consistent all 3 years. Gerhart is great and I loved his 205 yds on 29 carries this week. I can't figure out where he will go and I don't want to miss on my back. If we drafted late first due to trade down, he'd be my guy.
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I am having same problem. I think Oline needs adjusting and I am picking a ZBS guard in round two to replace Studdard immediately and a center (5th)to replace Myers late next season with Caldwell remaining at RG. Brisiel is a backup. This strengthens the oline and I am leaning towards Jonathan Dwyer in first. I don't care about the college scheme he runs in, he goes to the end zone like a tank on nitro and has been consistent all 3 years. Gerhart is great and I loved his 205 yds on 29 carries this week. I can't figure out where he will go and I don't want to miss on my back. If we drafted late first due to trade down, he'd be my guy.
Good choice going to the OG in the second.

Dwyer is a good back, but I am going to come out and say it now: Gerhart will be the better back. Dwyer has the speed, yes. But what you said about Dwyer "to the end zone like a tank on nitro" is doubly true for Gerhart. The man has 26 TD's. 26! And thats in a pro style offense. Dwyer has 12.
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[quote=rmartin65;1313236]Good choice going to the OG in the second.

Dwyer is a good back, but I am going to come out and say it now: Gerhart will be the better back. Dwyer has the speed, yes. But what you said about Dwyer "to the end zone like a tank on nitro" is doubly true for Gerhart. The man has 26 TD's. 26! And thats in a pro style offense. Dwyer has 12.[/QUOTE You have me sold. I watch his last performance last game where he had 29 carries and 205 yards. That one reception was over 30 and the game before he had another for over 20 I believe. I want to draft with value and no one has Gerhart going in top two rounds and many not until 4-5. I do not want to wait til later and hope someone is there but get my guy for sure. My only neg thought on Toby is the competition compared to Georgia Tech? If I could get Gerhart, Asamoah and a good CB If be ecstatic regardless of what round. I think a free safety and DT can be had after 3rd round. DO you think Dunta will be here next year? Kubes stated DR did well against Colts but I have not been impressed all season. Seems like he is too far off the WR for me.
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has juniors and seniors

16 Joe Haden* CB 5'11" 228 Florida
48 Jeff Owens DT 6'3" 300 Georgia
80 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn
112 Walter Thurmond III CB 6'0" 175 Oregon
144 Chris Todd QB 6'4" 210 Auburn
152 Justin Cole DE 6'3" 240 San Jose State
176 Barry Humphries OG 6'3" 295 Clemson
208 Riley Cooper WR 6'3" 215 Florida

Cherry pick

16 Toby Gerhart RB 6'1" 235 Stanford
48 Vince Oghobaase DT 6'6" 312 Duke
80 80 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech
112 Dan Doering OG 6'6" 300 Iowa
144 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
152 Andre Dixon RB 6'1" 208 Connecticut
176 Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
208 Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee

Gerhart will give you a beast at RB. Oghobaase and Williams add size to the DTs. Render and Doering might not start their 1st year but they will in a year or two, and they have lot more upside than Studdard. Add Caldwell at OC and that should be a stud OL.

Dixon because you never have enough RBs.

I know, no safeties early and no CBs. I need size up the middle and the best way to do that is draft it.

I like your thinking, but I believe that our real OL probs are duye to personal. Perhaps we need a RB too, but Peterson would struggle behind our line. Thats why I advocate taking 2 interior lineman(2 OGs or 1 OC and 1 OG). Vince O has not looked good at all this year. He has only 6.5 tackles and 2.5 sacks all year. Granted he has been hurt, but he just has not put it all together this year. He will need a good combine to get back up, but as of now, he is a 3-5th round prospect in my mind. Dan Williams is a nice pick, but I see him going in the late 1st-mid second round. He is a stout NT and with more and more teams going the way of the 3-4 NTs are a premium position. I mean in a 3-4 the most important position is your NT. Look at how the Jet D struggles without Kris Jenkins. Now think back to our 3-4 with Dom Capers. Without a solid NT your 3-4 is in trouble.
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he's got Miami taking a runningback in each of the next two first rounds
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